Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Man pulls gun over Obama bumper sticker dispute
YahooNews & Various ABC News Locals ^ | 12/27/12 | Evening News

Posted on 12/27/2012 3:21:34 PM PST by Ron H.

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-73 last
To: Ron H.

I didn’t think I needed the sarcasm sign.


61 posted on 12/28/2012 8:23:17 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham

I didn’t think I needed the sarcasm sign.

But I agree with you. However the media think differently. don’t they?


62 posted on 12/28/2012 8:24:55 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Slambat
“If you are the first person to raise a lethal threat, you lose. Period.”

Ok, then how do you defend yourself against the knockout game

Um, its easy. The knockout game is demonstrably lethal. The question for the jury is going to be 1) did defendant perceive a real threat of great bodily harm or death, and 2) was that perception a reasonable interpretation of conditions. The knockout game would satisfy those criteria, no problem. Shouting and shoving over a bumper sticker doesn't, of itself, rise to lethal threat. Without something more in the record, the first person to raise a credible lethal threat (apparently Williams in this case) is going to have a tough time playing the self defense card. Its not my theory. It's basic crim law 101.

63 posted on 12/28/2012 8:26:07 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: TribalPrincess2U

The media and the leftist cult would love to point out if the gun was CC by a white middle aged TPer. However they could spin it.


64 posted on 12/28/2012 8:28:26 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Slambat

There is no harm and often great benefit in putting into the record facts that favor your defense, such as your perception of the seriousness of the threat. The court will not look favorably on intentional obfuscation of basic facts, and a good prosecutor will know how to turn such obstinacy against you. As in any war, the skillful general will not attempt to fight on all fronts, only those which, taken together, assure victory. In self defense, an immediate, on the spot declaration of your fear of serious harm or death to yourself or a family member is a very good and useful thing if you want to win. But beyond that, yes, just ask for your lawyer. He/ she will work out with you what to admit and what not to admit.


65 posted on 12/28/2012 8:49:28 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: 21twelve

I also meant to say I agree with you on home invasion. Most jurisdictions grant a presumption that if someone has illegally broken into your home, they automatically present a potentially lethal threat, and you may deal with them accordingly.


66 posted on 12/28/2012 9:00:24 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: TribalPrincess2U

You gonna hang out around here then you need to develop some thicker skin. Learn to not be so thin skinned.


67 posted on 12/28/2012 4:04:06 PM PST by Ron H. (Democrats and Republicans - not a dimes worth of difference anymore!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Ron H.

What the hell are you talking about.? I’m far from thinned-skinned.


68 posted on 12/28/2012 5:17:13 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: TribalPrincess2U

Could have fooled me.


69 posted on 12/29/2012 1:06:13 AM PST by Ron H. (Democrats and Republicans - not a dimes worth of difference anymore!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Ron H.

Get lost.


70 posted on 12/29/2012 8:22:59 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: TribalPrincess2U

Seems you already are.


71 posted on 12/29/2012 8:46:05 AM PST by Ron H. (Democrats and Republicans - not a dimes worth of difference anymore!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Springfield Reformer
The rule of proportional force takes account of situations like Zimmerman and the 90 year old lady.

To paraphrase Ernest Hemingway: "Never pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

72 posted on 01/03/2013 10:29:09 PM PST by Dr.Deth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Dr.Deth

LOL!


73 posted on 01/03/2013 10:43:40 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-73 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson