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Murder rate in New York City hits a record low with 414 homicides in 2012
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | FRIDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2012 | MATTHEW LYSIAK AND JOE KEMP

Posted on 12/29/2012 12:18:50 AM PST by nickcarraway

Edited on 12/29/2012 2:12:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The murder rate in the city plunged to a record low this year and the number of shootings plummeted to their lowest point in 18 years, officials said.

As of Friday, there were 414 homicides investigated since the beginning of the year about 19% less than the 471 killings reported at the same time in 2011.


(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 12/29/2012 12:18:56 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t count 20% of killings and badda boom, badda bing you have 20 % less murders.


2 posted on 12/29/2012 12:27:57 AM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said that the drop in murders and shootings stem from a wide range of strategies that include deploying more officers in crime-ridden areas and the controversial stop-and-frisk tactic. “We’re taking 8,000 weapons annually out of the hands of people we stop, 800 of them illegal guns,” Kelly said. Guns are the leading cause of murders in the city this year, killing 237 people. …
What, stop-and-frisk is saving lives? Shirley you can’t be serious . . .
O Captain Obvious! My Captain Obvious! our fearful trip is done;
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck Captain Obvious lies,
Fallen cold and dead. …


(Apologies to Walt Whitman and his estate)

3 posted on 12/29/2012 12:29:35 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway

Clearly 32 oz. sodas were causing people to kill each other.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 12:36:46 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ajnin

Chicago has less than a third population of NYC but 20% higher in murders.

The Windy City takes top honors.


5 posted on 12/29/2012 12:43:41 AM PST by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: nickcarraway

How much has the average age of the population in NYC increased over the period of the study?


6 posted on 12/29/2012 12:53:10 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: nickcarraway
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said that the drop in murders and shootings stem from a wide range of strategies that include deploying more officers in crime-ridden areas and the controversial stop-and-frisk tactic. “We’re taking 8,000 weapons annually out of the hands of people we stop, 800 of them illegal guns,” Kelly said. Guns are the leading cause of murders in the city this year, killing 237 people.

First, guns don't commit murder. Second, they make it look like this stupid and misleading statement is a quote from Kelly.

7 posted on 12/29/2012 1:00:49 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
How much has the average age of the population in NYC increased over the period of the study?

I don't know, but the writers seem to mix up "rate" and absolute numbers all over the article.

8 posted on 12/29/2012 1:05:10 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

I’m not surprised. They must be taking a break from confusing correlation with causation.


9 posted on 12/29/2012 1:18:14 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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10 posted on 12/29/2012 3:18:19 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: Moonman62
"“We’re taking 8,000 weapons annually out of the hands of people we stop, 800 of them illegal guns,” Kelly said. Guns are the leading cause of murders in the city this year, killing 237 people."

Since all guns are illegal in NYC, the other 7,200 weapons include 32 ounce sodas and subway trains?

11 posted on 12/29/2012 3:57:55 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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If banning subway trains can save just one life, it’s worth it. /S


12 posted on 12/29/2012 4:07:48 AM PST by Makana
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To: nickcarraway

Amazing that this is news.


13 posted on 12/29/2012 4:09:21 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: nickcarraway

Too bad one can’t take a subway without fearing getting thrown onto the tracks.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 4:18:00 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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An important factor in this is that in New York State when you are sentenced to prison you stay there. Very often felons do not get out even one day before their sentence is up. Moreover because of this many of these scumbags stay up state when they do get out. They don’t want any part of the cops in New York City. Of course this means more crime in the small towns up state around the prisons, but that is another problem.
15 posted on 12/29/2012 4:59:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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"held down by police presence"

One of the things I remember reading before Giuliani became mayor was the lib belief that, despite common sense dictating it would, more police would not deter criminals. Obviously, like virtually every other lib belief, it was proven wrong.

The same people said Israel building a fence around the country would not deter terrorist attacks. It cut them dramatically. Why some people still believe anything that comes out of a liberal piehole is beyond me.

16 posted on 12/29/2012 5:11:22 AM PST by driftless2
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To: jmaroneps37

Not only does the felon stay up here, but they bring family and friends.


17 posted on 12/29/2012 5:15:36 AM PST by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Sooth2222

“Since all guns are illegal in NYC, the other 7,200 weapons include 32 ounce sodas and subway trains?”

You’re leaving out the billions that die every year in NYC from trans-fats and salt.

NYC should always be viewed as a place where you could be pushed in front of a train by some worthless piece of human excrement; it isn’t even news.


18 posted on 12/29/2012 5:34:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Dilbert56

Dittos on the daughters in large cities. Same daughters wonder why we did not spend more time in the city when they grew up. Sure, they heard me say how uncomfortable the city was in my time, but they can not appreciate it.


19 posted on 12/29/2012 6:49:59 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: nickcarraway

It all began with Giuliani, OW Wilsons “Broken Window” theory, AND LONGER SENTENCES (put the bad guys away and crime goes down) Duh


20 posted on 12/29/2012 8:22:22 AM PST by capt B
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To: nickcarraway

The legacy of Bernie quietly rages on!


21 posted on 12/29/2012 8:29:36 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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