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Clemson student's turtle project takes dark twist
Herald on line ^ | December 27, 2012 | Jeffrey Collins

Posted on 12/30/2012 9:17:31 AM PST by ZULU

CLEMSON, S.C. — Clemson University student Nathan Weaver just wanted to put together a project to help figure out the best way to assist turtles in crossing the road. But he also ended up with a peek into the dark souls of some human beings.

Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/12/27/4507782/clemson-students-turtle-project.html#storylink=cpy

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: neanderthals; turtles
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To: Cicero

They swarm across the road near Sandbar State Park by the dozens. Pretty cool to see them all crossing the road.


51 posted on 12/30/2012 1:33:08 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: aomagrat

Thanks I do remember that commercial.

Funny.


52 posted on 12/30/2012 1:48:13 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Portcall24

The one and only time I’ve ever hit an animal was a possum in a 40 mph zone.

It was right at dusk, I was already going ~45, and the turkey behind me was trying to go 48-50...IOW, aggressively tailgating me so close he was nearly making bumper to bumper contact. There was a car in the other lane, no room to swerve, stop, or even slow down, and it bolted out of the trees at the side of the road.

I felt awful about it, but the only choices I had were hit it or go off the road and potentially into someone’s house, literally, or at the very least destroy the car and possibly kill myself.


53 posted on 12/30/2012 2:20:24 PM PST by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: ZULU

I stop and get the animal off the road. Usually do the same thing for snakes if they are not venomous.

When my wife was a teacher, she heard her students bragging about a game they play. They have a contest to see who can kill the most dogs or cats in a night. I told her not to tell me who these kids were. I didn’t want to end up in prison.


54 posted on 12/30/2012 2:43:41 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: blueunicorn6
My wife can't believe me. If she asks me to kill a spider in the house, I take it outside and release it.

I do, however, kill venomous spiders or mosquitoes in the house. Flies, too.

55 posted on 12/30/2012 2:52:09 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: ZULU; mickie; flaglady47; seenenuf; Chigirl 26; seekthetruth; Bob Ireland; surfer; mcmuffin; ...
The town of Palm Beach, Florida where Rush lives requires its beach-front residents to keep their front door illumination off for EIGHT MONTHS out of the year for sea turtles to safely cross streets at night on their way to the sea from wherever.

This presumably includes such lit decorations as Christmas creches, Santy Clauses, and Rudolph's shiny red nose....maybe even Halloween pun'kins.

Scientists believe that the directionally-challenged little shelled darlings confuse porch lights and other illuminations with the moon.....and their radar (or whatever it's called) gets confused and throws them completely off their appointed rounds to the water.

Naturally, Rush is the Great Turtle Monster to the libs for utilizing his oratorial talents publicly on this situation which affects his neighborhood....comments which are pithy....and not exactly Winston Turtillian.

Leni

56 posted on 12/30/2012 3:01:19 PM PST by MinuteGal (Send a penny NOW to CNN, 1 Time-Warner Center, NY, NY 10019 for "PENNIES FOR LEAVIN!" (Piers Morgan))
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To: ZULU
I was coming home from work driving on a country road, came around a bend and almost ran into a five car pileup. Seems there was a large snapper in the road and a woman had stopped on a blind curve and gotten out of her car to stop traffic for 20 mins.for the turtle.

I put a 1" stick in front of it, which it promptly bit, lifted it by the stick and carried it off the road.

I then told Ms. Turtle Lover to wait for the police so that she could explain why she caused a 5 car accident.

57 posted on 12/30/2012 3:01:44 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: ZULU

According to my math 98.231% of the drivers did not hit the turtle.


58 posted on 12/30/2012 3:06:24 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Fzob

Just saw a commercial on “safe” drivers stopping for squirrels. Like I tell my kids, if there is an animal in the middle of your lane - aim for the animal. Safely brake if no one is right behind you. My wife slammed on the brakes for a rabbit as a teen and put her car in the ditch and busted up her face some.


59 posted on 12/30/2012 3:08:32 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: ZULU

Sounds like we need a ban on cars with automatic transmissions. And with gas tanks that hold more than 3 gallons. < /lib>


60 posted on 12/30/2012 3:09:56 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Fzob

Prairie dogs, don’t brake for prairie dogs.


61 posted on 12/30/2012 3:15:13 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: ZULU

OOOPS! Should be 97.38%. Can’t read my own writing.


62 posted on 12/30/2012 3:19:41 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Straight Vermonter

What kind?


63 posted on 12/31/2012 3:40:28 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Fire_on_High

The closer they tail gate me, the slower I go. Eventually they get the message. Maybe at that point they can read the NRA sticker on my back windshield, or get a better look at me.
I’m not a small guy.


64 posted on 12/31/2012 3:42:08 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: gitmo

“When my wife was a teacher, she heard her students bragging about a game they play. They have a contest to see who can kill the most dogs or cats in a night. I told her not to tell me who these kids were. I didn’t want to end up in prison.”

Lowlife scum. But then a lot of young jerks talk big and don’t really do anything.


65 posted on 12/31/2012 3:43:39 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: MinuteGal

Love Rush but sometimes he gets a little ridiculous.

I like turtles and I also like Christmas and public safety.

There are ALWAYS ways to accommodate conservation of species and public safety and well-being.

Maybe using red lights is the answer. A lot of animals can’t see red light at night. Light shielding is also a possibility. Keeping all front lights off for 8 months is a bit ridiculous, not to mention unsafe.


66 posted on 12/31/2012 3:46:56 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Eagles6

OBVIOUSLY one should not cause accidents over this.

Best way to pick up a snapper is at the BASE of the rear top shell between the hind legs and hold it WELL AWAY from your body. Picking them up by the tail, especially a big one, can damage the backbone.


67 posted on 12/31/2012 3:49:08 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: 21twelve

Again, prudence and common sense here. We are talking about DELIBERATELY trying to run over a turtle, not committing suicide by trying to avoid one.


68 posted on 12/31/2012 3:50:55 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Eagles6

Well, that IS encouraging.


69 posted on 12/31/2012 3:51:40 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: gotribe

I prefer not to have my meat mashed all over the macadam thanks.


70 posted on 12/31/2012 3:52:35 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: elkfersupper

????????????????????????????


71 posted on 12/31/2012 3:53:16 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: elkfersupper

Elkfersupper, I’m sure your a nice guy. But what you are saying is really hard to swallow. Suppose people ran down elks that crossed the road at every opportunity and elk country was criss-crossed with highways driven over by idiot city people and big trucks.

Might run out of elk for supper.


72 posted on 12/31/2012 3:55:45 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I think your conclusions are a bit flawed.

As a superior creature, we should recognize the limitations of inferior species and their need for our assistance to survive in a world to which they are unaccustomed, appreciate the esthetic appeal the presence of a variety of wildlife provides, be thankful to our Creator for the abundance of lifeforms He created for us to constructively enjoy, deplore acts of brutality and deliberate cruelty against a dumb beast, and recognize the potential source of knowledge contained within their genomes which might benefit ourselves.


73 posted on 12/31/2012 4:00:23 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Bingo.

Abortion is a great evil. But we are not discussing that here.


74 posted on 12/31/2012 4:01:38 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: aomagrat

I wouldn’t buy anything from Geico.

They fired Lee Ermey because he was anti-Obama and is pro-Second Amendment.


75 posted on 12/31/2012 4:02:55 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

See my comment about snappers and handling them. I used to do exactly what you did till I read about the potential for backbone damage by carrying them that way.

Every time I see a snapper I feel kind of like I’m looking at something from the Cretaceous Period. They are neat little critters. They can make interesting “pets”. I “trained” one to come and eat fish from my hand - LONG FISH _ by slapping the side of his pool. When he heard it, he would come swimming and get the trash fish I got for him.


76 posted on 12/31/2012 4:06:43 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: longfellowsmuse

“I will use any opportunity to defend the defenseless.”

I’d say the turtles are pretty defenseless here.

I agree with you totally about abortions. I’m also pro-Second Amendment, as well as pro-the other 9. But you are not advancing your efforts by trying to tie EVERY discussion into the same topic. If we did, we should change the entire Free Republic Forum into just an anti-abortion forum.


77 posted on 12/31/2012 4:09:28 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: aomagrat; Fzob

78 posted on 12/31/2012 4:15:07 AM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: ZULU
I “trained” one to come and eat fish from my hand

There's a FReeper who has a pet snapping turtle and I mean an actual pet. It roams around her house and comes when she calls it.......I wish I could remember her name.

79 posted on 12/31/2012 4:31:25 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ZULU
the potential for backbone damage by carrying them that way.

Well that's something I didn't know, thanks.......

80 posted on 12/31/2012 4:46:58 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ZULU
In over 2 million miles and over 50 years of driving, I've never hit a turtle.

One day I came upon a huge snapper in Vermont in the middle of my lane. He was more than knee high (I'm 6"1") and over 3 feet in diameter.

I immediately set a road flare before the curve I'd just come around.

Had the same experience as an earlier poster with it snapping off a broom handle.

It just wanted to remain in the road. Finally enough people stopped so 3 of us could shove it off the road.

It was amazingly fast, lunging at us to try to snap us.

I have run over thousands of toads on Guam during mating season. You can't miss the huge things, they pave the road like moving cobblestone during mating season.

Despite probably huge amounts killed by vehicles there seemed to be an endless supply of them.

In all that driving, I've hit 2 deer, last year. A black bear and I hit each other. I saw him coming at a diagonal at about 40 MPH toward where I was going to be. I slowed from 50 to 40 and went across the oncoming lane and into the other breakdown lane to try to avoid him. No traffic, a mile strait in front. He ran into our right front fender and tire and the rear tire went over him, spinning him back across the highway into the ditch.

Somewhere on one of my web sites there's the pic I took of him laying there twitching at my feet, he was probably around 300 pounds.

Our daughter and a friend were in a car behind us, so they stayed to watch the bear while my wife and I went for a game warden. Couldn't get one, when we got back the girls said as soon as we went around the corner the bear got up and bolted into the woods.

I never got the front fender fixed as the cracks with the bear fur stuffed in them looked neat. The rear wheel alignment was off so far it took the max shimming possible to re-align it.

Somehow I've had over 3000 moose encounters and haven't hit any yet.

Couldn't avoid a blacksnake in Pennsylvania as it stretched from in the oncoming lane to the guardrail on the right. There was a very noticable thump-thump as we went over it. In the mirror you could see the two flat spots in it. It was on a corner with oncoming traffic.

For some reason, two foxes have run into my hubcaps.

Have managed to miss several Pine Martens.

81 posted on 12/31/2012 4:49:18 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: ZULU

ditto


82 posted on 12/31/2012 5:58:43 AM PST by kanawa (FB-- Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: ZULU

It is obvious that you have not read all of my posts here at free republic... if you had you would know that I have not posted about abortion in “EVERY” discussion. In fact far from it. Before you make an accusation you should have your facts straight.


83 posted on 12/31/2012 10:06:09 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Hot Tabasco

There was a biography about a remarkable woman named Grace Wiley. She really existed and was a reptile fan. She had pet crocs which knew their own names and came when she called.

She tamed cobras also.

See http://hclib.tumblr.com/post/4501763269/grace-wiley-snake-lady-when-minneapolis-opened.
Died of a cobra bite.


84 posted on 12/31/2012 10:06:54 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: ZULU
She tamed cobras also.

Not very well it seems........LOL!

85 posted on 12/31/2012 11:02:09 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ZULU

I believe they are the spiny softshells.


86 posted on 12/31/2012 1:43:10 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ZULU
Suppose people ran down elks that crossed the road at every opportunity and elk country was criss-crossed with highways driven over by idiot city people and big trucks.

The elk might be injured or die but the vehicle that impacts the elk and the people inside are more than likely to die. Imagine a 2,000 lb. animal crashing through your windshield at night. For some reason, they get out of the way of moving vehicles at great speed during the daytime.

87 posted on 12/31/2012 2:20:25 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Hot Tabasco
There are threads for babies and the occasional thread for turtles........THIS one is for turtles....

Photobucket

88 posted on 12/31/2012 2:28:50 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: lonevoice

That’s just darn cute! What kind of a turtle is that?


89 posted on 12/31/2012 2:57:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: ZULU
Not meant to lecture, but "elk" is both singular and plural. It is possible to encounter one elk, or a herd of elk. There are no "elks".

A mature male elk is a "bull". A mature female elk is a "cow". A pre-pubescent elk, regardless of sex is a "calf" (plural = "calves"). A post-pubescent male generally ineligible for harvest is a "spike".

90 posted on 12/31/2012 3:02:29 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Hot Tabasco

That I don’t know. It’s a cutie though.


91 posted on 12/31/2012 4:18:35 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: ZULU

I’m a small female in a tiny pink car. Every rare now and again someone decides that means “fun to hassle”.


92 posted on 12/31/2012 5:55:56 PM PST by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: Fire_on_High

Try an NRA sticker!


93 posted on 01/01/2013 8:46:49 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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