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To: Katechon
Yes, as the old rabbis are saying, Cain was the ‘son of wrath,’; they think he’s the son of satan, a precursor to Masteman

Ignoring that nonsense since Cain was Adam and Eve's firstborn son....and Genesis makes no reference or inference to him being the son of satan......

You still haven't answered the question.

You want to ban an object without substantial proof it WILL cause someone to kill someone else.

It’s about training kids to become (potential) killers without any discipline.

In your previous post "potential" wasn't in it. The word you chose was "FACT." As in "WILL" cause.

I'm stating in 100% truthfulness and honesty I have killed people.....without the assistance of a video game. Where do I fit into your equation? If something like a First Person Shooter GAME will "make" someone kill, wouldn't First Person Shooting REALITY make them all the more worse?

Who gets to be thought police and determine what should or shouldn't be banned? Are True Crime and Murder Mysteries next? Or killers like me? Where does it end and who holds this power?

208 posted on 01/04/2013 8:45:20 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender
Many, many rabbis made and are making the case that Cain was fathered by satan. "Cain was also viewed as a type of utter perverseness, an offspring of Satan (Pirḳe R. El. xxi.), "a son of wrath" (Apoc. Mosis, 3), a lawless rebel who said, "There is neither a divine judgment nor a judge" (Midr. Leḳaḥ Ṭob and Targ. Yer. to Gen. iv. 8), whose words of repentance were insincere (Sanh. 101b; Tan.), whose fleeing from God was a denial of His omnipresence (Gen. R. xxii.), and whose punishment was of an extraordinary character:" http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3904-cain
216 posted on 01/04/2013 8:53:19 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Repeat Offender

“I’m stating in 100% truthfulness and honesty I have killed people.....without the assistance of a video game. Where do I fit into your equation? If something like a First Person Shooter GAME will “make” someone kill, wouldn’t First Person Shooting REALITY make them all the more worse?”

That’s a fascinating question. I think Grossman would ask “in which context”? Military? Then you received the discipline; you know why you did it; and you are being recompensed for it: parades, medales, honour.
Or was it police duty? Or self-defense? Or as a civilian militant during a civil war?

The basic difference with FPS videogames is that one associates killing with reward and pleasure, without any disciplinary and larger context.

Is that so in the military and the police? I don’t think so. It’s about protecting the ‘sheep’ from the ‘wolves’ — much more than raking points, while smelling your girlfriend perfume and drinking soda pop with your buddies.


231 posted on 01/04/2013 9:09:15 PM PST by Katechon
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