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White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
TPM ^ | 1/5/13 | Sarlin

Posted on 01/05/2013 10:00:43 AM PST by pabianice

President Obama announces he is appointing Vice President Joe Biden to craft new policies within the next month to curb gun violence.President Obama announces he is appointing Vice President Joe Biden to craft new policies within the next month to curb gun violence. 0

The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

While the fiscal cliff has dominated Washington’s attention in recent weeks, lawmakers and activists are laying the groundwork for their big push. Vice President Joe Biden, tasked with heading a commission to investigate gun violence, has been quietly meeting with experts, interest groups, and public officials and is expected to release a set of recommendations within weeks. Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”

“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM.

House Democrats are moving ahead with their own plans as well. On Friday, Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA), chair of the newly created Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, announced the appointment of 12 vice chairs, including Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), the body’s leading voice on gun control. According to a Democratic aide, the group plans to release its recommendations in early February and is already organizing public hearings on the issue.

Obama has personally identified an assault weapons ban and limits on ammunition magazine size as top priorities. Other possible reforms could include background check requirements for purchases at gun shows, a loophole that’s helped create a huge market of off-record arms purchases.

Pro-gun groups have dominated Congress in recent years and, while lawmakers approved by the National Rifle Association have mostly kept their heads down in recent weeks, any legislation could face an difficult path to passage, or even a vote, especially in the Republican-led House.

Glaze said his group would work hard to build public support, hosting local events with various mayors, dozens of whom will descend on Washington later this month for The United States Conference of Mayors winter gathering.

Gun violence survivors are also planning trips to lobby lawmakers to support legislation. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords, who survived a mass shooting in 2011, could play a prominent role in that regard: on Wednesday she met with Bloomberg in New York and on Friday traveled to Newtown to comfort families who lost loved ones in the attack there.

But Glaze acknowledged the NRA has long held an advantage not only in its cash resources, but in its large and active grassroots membership, which has rallied in the past to whip members of Congress against gun control bills. For gun control advocates, they’ll have to offer a compelling case that lawmakers who squelch reforms will pay a price in the midterm elections and that means building their own active network of supporters. Glaze is confident they can do so, citing recent polls showing restrictions on extended ammunition clips and an expansion of background checks to be popular nationally.

“The broad solutions are there and if Congress doesn’t act I think theyre going to be digging themselves further into a big hole,” he said.

The Brady Campaign, the gun control group founded by former Ronald Reagan press secretary Jim Brady, is also expected to play a role in promoting legislation, but it’s an open question whether they can compete with the NRA’s experienced leadership. TPM reached out to the group’s staff in recent days for information on its plans, but received no response.


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How did a Dem get the chair of a special House gun-grabbing committee?
1 posted on 01/05/2013 10:00:47 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Because it is a House Dems group with all Dem members. It has nothing to do with the official committee organization.


2 posted on 01/05/2013 10:04:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: pabianice
Gun Violence Prevention Task Force

It's not a House committee. It's an 'organization'.

The media is being vague, so that people think it's official.

Liars gotta lie.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/05/2013 10:06:28 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: pabianice

He’s going to do this by executive order.....No way Dems in the House will give it to him.


4 posted on 01/05/2013 10:08:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: pabianice

There is no wasted action when defending our Constitution. Any pebble tossed onto their road to enslavement could cause their plans to topple like a fat SoS.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-armed-guards-president-vice-president-and-their-families-and-establish-gun-free-zones/6RDGkxLK


5 posted on 01/05/2013 10:10:50 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: pabianice

Works for me. If Obama wants a war it might as well be now before he has 4 more years to screw America.


6 posted on 01/05/2013 10:12:36 AM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: kabar; pabianice
He leads a "Task Force," not a standing Committee. Congressional Caucuses and Task Forces are formed by Members to provide a forum for discussion and analysis on issues and legislation. Good information on the House operates its Task Forces can be found at The Use of Task Forces in the House.
7 posted on 01/05/2013 10:13:01 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: pabianice

“Not letting a good crisis go to waste”.


8 posted on 01/05/2013 10:13:38 AM PST by jughandle
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To: pabianice
The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

Fading...not going to happen you leftists at TPM.

9 posted on 01/05/2013 10:15:34 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Sacajaweau

An EO to turn in guns would be ignored in mass.


10 posted on 01/05/2013 10:17:16 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: pabianice

The campaign against the Republican House for 2014 has begun and they don’t have a wartime Speaker.


11 posted on 01/05/2013 10:18:25 AM PST by AU72
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To: pabianice

I don’t think O thinks much is going to pass and it sure is not going to pass quickly.

Bottom line: He wants to outlaw the most popular guns being sold in America today. It ain’t going to happen.

1. The NRA and every other group are going to be going strong on this.
2. We are going nicely register our discontent with our representatives and senators during this period. Be polite but firm when you talk with them.
3. There doesn’t seem to be any support for these initiatives in the general populace. None.

Epic fail is on the way.


12 posted on 01/05/2013 10:18:44 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: pabianice

Going to be anything but a rapid victory. Over 3 weeks now since Newtown and I believe resistance to any new legislation is galvanizing.

The media is doing all they can to create an air of inevitability. Feinstein’s bill is DOA but we can’t even entertain the idea of compromise.

I think some sort of compromise which includes universal registration is the course they most want to pursue. They want good records which will ultimately lead to firearms confiscation. The ultimate goal of every control freak.


13 posted on 01/05/2013 10:18:55 AM PST by bereanway
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To: pabianice

I am becoming a gun owner for the first time ever. A pox on all their houses.


14 posted on 01/05/2013 10:18:59 AM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: pabianice
When the gun grabbers call for bans and limitations, go the other way. Offer tax breaks for gun manufacturers and dealers. Create MORE "loopholes".
15 posted on 01/05/2013 10:19:41 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: pabianice

If those DemoQuacks are so interested in protecting U.S. citizens then how about a quick victory over the Mexican drug cartels against whom the federal government to date has failed to protect us.

The federal government with all its weapons, laws and resources can’t stop the deadly Mexican drug cartels at the border, and cannot stop them from operating in hundreds of communities throughout the United States. And now the government want to disarm citizens to stop us from protecting ourselves against the narco terrorists and other criminal pyschopaths that run the streets? Citizens have the right to protect ourselves particularly when the government is unable or unwilling to protect us.


16 posted on 01/05/2013 10:20:46 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: pabianice

Obama is going to lay the blame for CW2 off on Joe Biden and that stupid SOB can’t even see it coming.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 10:21:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Red Steel
Absolutely...He and his minions were stupid enough to test the black market with "Fast and Furious"...

This is really about the evil mentally ill (and I do not believe insanity is ever a defense) and evil men in general.

18 posted on 01/05/2013 10:21:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: pabianice
laying the groundwork for their big push...

Poor editing. They misspelled putsch.

This "rapid" talk is more like "rabid" or "blitzkrieg-like".

19 posted on 01/05/2013 10:22:39 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I think they will have a tough time getting anything out of the Senate. Lots of red state senators up for re-election in 14. Reid knows that the Dems could very well lose the Senate because of this so look for him to give it lip service and then determine that there are just too many other pressing issues facing them to deal with it right away.

If, by chance, it does get out of the Senate it will get shuffled off to some committee in the House where it will rot for a while.

By that time we’ll be dealing with the debt limit and sequestration.


20 posted on 01/05/2013 10:22:54 AM PST by technically right
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To: pabianice
The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

I would call that action dancing on the graves of little children. Matter of fact, these communists were acting before the massacred children's bodies were cold.

Yep, time is a coming. Prepare accordingly.

5.56mm

21 posted on 01/05/2013 10:24:30 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: pabianice
You know, the one thing we were missing, was the left-liberal viewpoint on guns and gun-bans.

Thank GOD there was someone ready to cover this utterly uncovered viewpoint! Bravo, TPM!

22 posted on 01/05/2013 10:25:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: pabianice

This is pure Alinsky...trying to put a face on gun owners by polarizing the NRA.

The NRA doesn’t represent all gun owners, and all gun owners don’t necessarily represent the the NRA.

So “sheriff” biden is going to ride in and bombard the NRA with threats of taxes, regulations, etc., and maybe they’ll cave, maybe they want...but it won’t disarm America, not by a long shot.

obama’s quest to disarm America will not be as easy as was that of Hitler...America is much larger than Germany and our freedom was founded and has been maintained by the right to bear arms.

Remember when the government claimed that “rounding up” 13 million illegal aliens was an “impossible task”?

But, there is a lingering worry...for the past 25 years we have so willingly given up so many freedoms and rights, I fear that when obama says “boo”, we’ll all just surrender and kneel. He believes in kneeling you know.


23 posted on 01/05/2013 10:26:19 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: pabianice
Gun Violence Prevention Task Force

Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA), chair of the newly created Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, announced the appointment of 12 vice chairs, including Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)

Other vice chairs include: Rep. Ron Barber of Arizona, who worked for former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and was wounded when she was shot in January 2011; Rep. Elizabeth Esty of Connecticut, who represents the Newtown area, and Rep. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, whose district includes Aurora, where a gunman opened fire in a movie theater last summer, killing 12 people and wounding dozens more.

Link

Complete and total set up...

The media will have their talking points straight from the DNC and Alexrod

The pubs will have their deer in the headlights stare down pat...

24 posted on 01/05/2013 10:26:37 AM PST by Popman
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Wait, I thought Harry Reid got the love and endorsement of the NRA, so I’m sure Reid will side with the NRA and against the gun grabbers, right?

Obama and the corrupt MSM are trying to make everyone believe that they have dictatorial power and anything they want to do is going to be done. That just isn’t so. The neither have the power, nor the votes to do whatever they want.

There will be no gun control other than what is practiced at the range.


25 posted on 01/05/2013 10:32:43 AM PST by Obadiah (Brace for impact.)
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To: pabianice
Obama will slam the rest of his agenda down our throats as quickly as possible like he did healthcare. Legislative blitzkreig.

Will our side develop a means to cope? They haven't managed an effective reaction in four years...

26 posted on 01/05/2013 10:33:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: pabianice

This will be an interesting exercise to see if the media will continue to suppress the information out of Newtown.

1. He did not use the AR-15 to shoot the kids in Newtown.
2. He stole the guns from his mother.
3. He had been denied purchase of a gun already.


27 posted on 01/05/2013 10:34:35 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: pabianice
White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory

Obama's "Shock and Awe" strategy?

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I'm not a real general, but Valerie lets me play one on TV.

28 posted on 01/05/2013 10:34:48 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: FrankR
But, there is a lingering worry...for the past 25 years we have so willingly given up so many freedoms and rights, I fear that when obama says “boo”, we’ll all just surrender and kneel. He believes in kneeling you know.See my post at #25. I concur with you. Everybody is running around thinking that whatever Obama says is going to happen. That just isn't so. Obama can pound his empty kettle, Biden, all he wants, he is NOT dictator yet and he cannot just wave his wand and enact crazy gun control.

I find this growing fear insane. People, including the corrupt MSM, think that just because Obama won reelection that he has this unlimited resevior of political capital that, like Darth Vader he can squeeze his thumb and index finger together and choke the life out of anyone or anything.

People need to stop cowering in fear of Obama and the corrupt MSM. We must rise up and say, NO MORE!

29 posted on 01/05/2013 10:39:48 AM PST by Obadiah (Brace for impact.)
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To: pabianice
It is time to put the names, addresses, and pictures of all involved gungrabbers on an interactive map. Then let's see how that shakes out. It can be helpful both before and after any votes.

The gungrabbers are trying to do that to lawful gunowners. In fact, they are already doing it. Why should they object?

30 posted on 01/05/2013 10:39:48 AM PST by Gritty (Local Russians shouldn't compare our Democrat Party with communism.ItÂ’s absurd.-D Savino (D-NYSenat)
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To: FrankR

[[Remember when the government claimed that “rounding up” 13 million illegal aliens was an “impossible task”?]]

Impossible because illegals would not comply with the laws- however roundign up legal law abiding citizens woudl be a muhc easier task, and hte government has re4cords o nwhere all the law abiding gun owners are, so they won’t have to blindly hunt them down-

The ONLY way that peopel wil lresits is IF, and it’s a big IF, IF there is a massive demonstration and an organized effort to esist beign arrested with the use of deadly force- thsi takes a huge committment o nthe part of the people to step over that lien of ‘security’ into t5he unknown where they may have to actually use force to keep the governemnt from douign whatever the hell they want-

You may get soem small unorganized pockets of resistence, but a LOT of Americansd simply will not risk prison and will hand over their guns- it’s happende in coutnry after caountry, and our country is no different really— the ONLY way it could be different is IF, and it’s a huge IF, a massive band of civilians forms and declares in no uncertain terms that they will never hand over their guns and that it will take result in war IF the governemnt decides to do so- but this will take a massive organizational effort because peopel want to know thwey are joinign an organizatio nthat has a sliver of a chance of defendign itself succesfully before they will actually commit- lots of peopel talk a good talk, but when it coems to action they will lay down their firearms ‘peacefully’ not everyone, but a lot will-


31 posted on 01/05/2013 10:40:32 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: buffaloguy
Be polite but firm when you talk with them.

No, I won't be polite about it. I'll be rancorous and loud and obnoxious.

This 'be nice' crap is why we're where we are.

/johnny

32 posted on 01/05/2013 10:40:39 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: pabianice
They will simply die in committee....


33 posted on 01/05/2013 10:41:49 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Bryan24

Okay once and for all WAS the AR used in the shootings or not?
Early reports said no, but later reports state it was used. Do we know what happened?


34 posted on 01/05/2013 10:41:59 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: skeeter

It’s different than with ObamaCare. Republicans did not control the House at that time and were very limited in what they could do. Gun control will not pass the House.

The recent rout by Obama on the fiscal cliff gave us the advantage that Boehner is under far less pressure to give anything to Obama now. Second, I think Republicans are correctly just keeping their yap shut rather than drawing fire by announcing their opposition to any gun control.


35 posted on 01/05/2013 10:43:39 AM PST by Obadiah (Brace for impact.)
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To: Obadiah

[[People need to stop cowering in fear of Obama and the corrupt MSM. We must rise up and say, NO MORE]]

We do need to but it’s not goign to happen- more and more peopel have attached themselves to the government teet and are not willing to stop suckling- America spoke loud and clear this last election- They want lies and destruction as long as they ‘get theirs now’ while they’re still able to- and they don’t care how the governemnt goes abotu givign htem theirs, they just want theirs- it’s a me me me generation- and too many peopel are too complacent and too ‘secure feeling’ snuggled up next to government to do what’s right anymore- America spoke loud and clear- America has changed for hte worse ande htis last election proved it- I didn’t think it was possible, but America proved me wrong when they reelected thsi blatant liar to office


36 posted on 01/05/2013 10:44:37 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Kozak
Okay once and for all WAS the AR used in the shootings or not?

Yes. All the children were killed with .223 rounds. Lanza wanted to kill as many people as possible. Why would he have left the most effective weapon he had at his disposal back in the trunk of his car? The weapon left in the trunk was a shotgun.

As much as I wish this wasn't an "assault weapon" related crime, fact is, it was, and all the conspiracy nuttery isn't going to change this.

37 posted on 01/05/2013 10:46:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: kabar

Typical media misrepresentation as usual. If I were a Boehner who actually had a pair of balls, I’d wipe my ass with their recommendations at the House Docket, bang the gavel, and yell “Next order of business.”


38 posted on 01/05/2013 10:47:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: pabianice

So.... CW2 begins soon. Bring it, Libs. I, for one, am ready to end this farce.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 10:48:03 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Obadiah

[[Gun control will not pass the House.]]

Obummercare will NEVER be upheld in the supreme court- it can’t be upgheld because it’s unconstitutional- there is no way the supreme court can uphold thsi violation to our rights.... oh wait- it did get upheld despite it beign unconstitutional


40 posted on 01/05/2013 10:48:23 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: pabianice
President Obama announces he is appointing Vice President Joe Biden

hee hee hee, plug is leading the charge??

41 posted on 01/05/2013 10:52:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: JRandomFreeper

No reason to yell at the operators. Get your name and number on the list. Numbers count in this application.


42 posted on 01/05/2013 10:58:24 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Obadiah

If it passes the Senate but not the House, could the Democrat Senate sit on it and wait for a Democrat House to approve it sometime in the future and send it up to zer0 or does the whole process have to start over?


43 posted on 01/05/2013 11:00:26 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: Drew68; Kozak

I’ve changed my mind and I’m withholding judgement on what gun(s) were used by Lanza until I see an official report. Too many lies were spewed in a very short time.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113

See Pete Williams report. It contradicts the story that was promulgated later in the above link and here below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqpjJ6P-NSQ&feature=player_embedded#t=0s


44 posted on 01/05/2013 11:01:40 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

“An EO to turn in guns would be ignored in mass.”

Such an EO would have to be DIRECTLY addressed by The People, one way or another, come what may.


45 posted on 01/05/2013 11:02:59 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Red Steel; Sacajaweau

Mark Levin said on his show this week, that even a legal statute passed by the US Senate and signed by pResident, can’t change the US Constitution. It would be challenged in the courts. Anyone else hear that, or did I mis-hear him?


46 posted on 01/05/2013 11:03:14 AM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: buffaloguy
No reason to yell at the operators.

Sure there is.

When they gather around for lunch and the topic of discussion is how angry the callers are, it gets back to the idiots that are supposed to represent us.

I won't be nice about this. Not ever. Try admonishing the bastards trying to take freedoms to be nice.

/johnny

47 posted on 01/05/2013 11:03:24 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Drew68
"assault weapon"?

That term is just for show and talking points. If you want to evaluate the "effectiveness" of a weapon you would not choose an AR for the weapon of choice. Did it work on defenceless children? Yes, unfortunately.

48 posted on 01/05/2013 11:08:57 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Sacajaweau

“He’s going to do this by executive order...”

That will be the spark that starts the conflagration.

Such an action would be illegal and unconstitutional which is exactly why I think he’ll do it. “We just can’t wait” for Congress to do this, right? owebama and his handlers are out of touch with the “high-information” voters and will miscalculate the resistance that this will cause. They probably don’t care either.

he is arrogant enough and vain enough to believe he can get away with it and he will have his left-stream media morons slobbering over him in adulation.


49 posted on 01/05/2013 11:09:52 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: pabianice

kill it in the house....kill it dead


50 posted on 01/05/2013 11:11:19 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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