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Democrats look for up to $1 trillion in new tax revenues this year
The Hill ^ | 1/07/13 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 01/07/2013 2:38:34 AM PST by Libloather

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To: Teacher317
Ronald Reagan's greatest income tax achievement was indexing the marginal tax brackets. In effect, one is paying taxes on inflated dollars at the constant dollar rate. Had this not been done, we would all be working as serfs for the federal monster now.

Also, when any of the dems begin pointing to former rates and current rates, they never seem to come around to the fact the social security taxes were much lower 30 years ago and there was no medicare before 1965 either. Also, states with income taxes were just getting their feet in the door and since then those rates have gone up along with concomitant sales and real estate taxes.

When one considers all taxes, local state and federal which we are paying, we are almost at the point of 100% taxation. But they still want more. By 2016 when we send in our tax payments, we will have to include a pint or two of blood too I fear.

21 posted on 01/07/2013 5:02:39 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: MaxMax

they want another trillion in addition to the 620 billion for a total of 1.6 trillion....hell they want it all. They want to tax your income at 100%, they want to confiscate your private property and your 401(k) and private pensions too.

The wish to turn you into a serf.


22 posted on 01/07/2013 5:14:05 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Liz
People just don't understand how the liberal brain works when it comes to math.

When they claim they have already cut the the deficit by one trillion, they are counting the taxes they just raised on the rich, plus all the hidden taxes they tucked into other bills as deficit reductions.

Conservatives just scratch their head and say ...Huh?

I'm NOT joking, they really think that way!

They also count any tax cut as unfunded spending.

23 posted on 01/07/2013 5:19:30 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Madoff can count on getting a pardon from this evil bunch.

Freeper IbJensen posted: "The Obama regime has constructed an evil, monstrous govt that is the enemy of we, the people....it is illegitimate and operating far outside the parameters of the Constitution.....this evil entity has built up a support of mentally defective imbeciles---disaffected takers and losers---who look upon the regime as cash-rich Big Daddy."

PARA-MILITARY VOTE-CRAZED DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE MARCH Power-hungry para-military Obama/Democrats w/ patented voter fraud know-how have been empowered by 2012. The para-military Democrats worked openly to violently overthrow established rule......using intimidation and assassination to turn out of office those they could not subjugate. Be ready for the a litany of remarks about the “invisible and permanent powers-that-be” (Repubs/conservatives)mtrying to harm a long list of "govt-dependent losers."

THEY THRIVE ON CHAOS The disturbed Obamatons are creating a dysfunctional chaotic culture, The anti-social psychopaths recognize no moral and ethical boundaries----aggressively going after what they want, irregardless of the consequences. Para-military Dem liberals and progs, are aiding and abetting a cabal of hate-filled individuals----all of them lying in wait to harm conservative/Christian/Constitution-loving Americans. They are a cabal of ruthless predators w/ no empathy for others.

They have no concept of right and wrong---they live in the moment using situation ethics as their lodestar.

PERVERSE CORRUPT DEM THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders ----were prominent in Southern politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from paramilitary organizations, then-described in history books as "the military arm of the Democratic Party."

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NOTE: Do not underestimate the wealth of federal cash the para-military Dems ---- the Ohaha/Chi-mob---- can come up with to rig elections. Remember, these are the kingpins of corrupt Chicago politics. At one time, conscientious FEC investigators verified money was coming from legal citizens....but Ohaha will not allow investigations. There are billions unaccounted for in Obama's "stimulus" packages (some used in the last election cycle).....the Ohaha kingpins had tons of money stashed away for 2012....and beyond.

24 posted on 01/07/2013 5:42:08 AM PST by Liz
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To: Artie

Those “tax breaks” are things like being able to deduct your business expenses, taxes paid to state, county and city, the mortgage interest deduction and of course your 401K.


25 posted on 01/07/2013 5:47:00 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: Libloather
“Through the tax code, we spend more there than we spend through all the appropriated accounts,” he said in his Senate farewell speech.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Spend our way out of debt. Just like the average American family does when the bills are more than the paychecks. Pure Wylie E. Coyote Genius speaking there.

26 posted on 01/07/2013 6:53:39 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Artie

argues the federal government loses $1.2 trillion a year because of various tax breaks’

It there was ANY truth to this statement, then why did Zero refuse to consider closing tax breaks instead insisting on tax INCREASES?

Nothing a liberal says can ever be considered true. Nothing.


27 posted on 01/07/2013 6:56:57 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: Libloather

Thay are like a wineo,you can never have to much.


28 posted on 01/07/2013 7:41:04 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: nvscanman
Politicians are more addicted to spending than any heroin/coke/meth addict has EVER been addicted.

Current spending levels are payment for past and future political support. Cutting anything at all pisses off somebody politically connected, and in an era of carefully staged 51-49 elections, that's just too much risk to ask our long-suffering politicians to bear. :)

29 posted on 01/07/2013 7:48:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: savedbygrace

There’s more defecates than ever in the District of Corruption.


30 posted on 01/07/2013 12:07:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: bert
The tax is coming, a different tax, a trickle down tax called Cap and Trade.

How about the invisible tax called the Value Added Tax?

31 posted on 01/07/2013 3:12:04 PM PST by foxfield
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To: foxfield

-——How about the invisible tax called the Value Added Tax?——

Sometime in December past, I saw a liberal on Fox News describing in fair amount of detail how Cap and Trade would be implemented. My view was he let the cat out of the bag. He was the only person to speak in terms of the tax being absorbed as cost and passed along to everyone.

Meanwhile, the other Eurocrat voices, and there were several, were simultaneously extolling the virtues of the environmental, clean air, life saving, yada, yada,yada of carbon tax.

My conclusion was that the decision was made and the program was underway to force Cap and Trade through. That is, it was the chosen vehicle for taxing the untaxed masses. A sales campaign was underway.

VAT may be second or third in line.

When you sort through all the clutter, the static, the obsfucation, the solution is pretty clear. Those who have sold their votes for no income taxation are where the money is. Their fair share is set at zero nd that cannot persist. They must be taxed without knowing it.


32 posted on 01/08/2013 4:59:14 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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