Skip to comments.Rand Paul: Less Aid to Israel Would Increase Its Sovereignty
Posted on 01/07/2013 5:49:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
If financial aid to Israel were slowly decreased over time, it would increase the Jewish states sovereignty because they wouldnt need to get permission from the U.S. every time they need to defend themselves against aggressive neighbors, Sen. Rand Paul said on Monday.
Paul said that while he knows the idea of decreasing any kind of foreign aid is a minority opinion in Washington, it will be a lot harder for America to help others if we are out of money, reported Fox News.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
...Yarden Gazit of the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies noted that the bulk of the US aid to Israel is for defense purposes, and that according to the stipulations of that aid, Israel must spend 75 percent of the money on US-made weapons and defense systems.
The American aid is also part of a bundle that includes military aid to Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, countries over which Israel must maintain a qualitative military edge. So, the US provides Israel with the funds to keep its military on top, but at the same time constantly upgrades the surrounding Arab armies to make sure Israel must continuously buy new American weapons.
Gazit explained that the $3 billion from the US is not enough to cover that expense. For example, every dollar granted to Egypt requires Israel to spend between 1.6 and 2.1 dollars to maintain the balance of power. As a result, every dollar granted to Israel costs Israel between 1.06 and 1.39 dollars.
By forcing Israel to buy most of its military equipment in the US, Washington is also saddling the Israeli defense industry with an annual loss of $750 million. And because Israel doesnt buy the systems made by its own defense industry, that hurts the ability of those Israeli contractors to sell their wares abroad...
Did ya'll not read the article?
I know what he has said in the past and I know what his dad has said , hence my statement.
Rand is smarter than his dad and he seems less nuttier too.
Pardon me, when did borrowing money on the backs of U.S. taxpayers to give to another country become a 'core principle' of conservatives?
Paul is in favor of ending welfare, at home and abroad. I thought that was a conservative principle.
Try reading the article sometime:
"The Kentucky senator said that first, aid would have to be pulled from questionably friendly countries such as Egypt and Pakistan before considering how and when to start cutting the flow of money to Israel."
His first target is a globe spanning empire that we can't afford.
If you want to pay for Germany's defense, or South Korea's defense, or Kuwait's defense, or build an army in Iraq or Afghanistan, reach into your own damn pocket and use your own damn credit card.
This empire isn't necessary, it is a drain on us. It doesn't make us more free, it gets us dragged into more wars. We fight to keep kings on foreign thrones, with borders drawn nearly 100 years ago by dying European Colonial Empires. Supporting that policy is buffoonery we can't afford. The Japanese and Chinese loan us the money to keep their oil cheap and laugh at us while we bleed and pay the interest forever.
-- Ronald Reagan
"Yes, the cost is high, but the price of neglect would be infinitely higher..."
-- Ronald Reagan
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Ya got me. My apologies to Rand Paul. However, I still think it’s a bad idea to pull monetary assistance from a strong ally like Israel. If anything, I might transfer some of the funding from belligerent terror states to Israel to send a message, if it were in my power to do so.
“...nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest.” - GW
You want to keep American soldiers, who swear an oath to defend the Constitution, as slaves to foreign kings, foreign governments, and pile endless debt upon the American taxpayer.
The billions we ship overseas for interest payment on those debts far exceeds the pork barrel arms sales to the various and sundry governments of the world we make. You have been deluded, and consequently you’re pushing for the Republic to be deluged in debt it cannot bear.
Your thoughtless response - whatever.
Keep up the good work, your ignorance, compounded by those who share it and lap it up uncritically, is doing more to destroy this country than OBL could have hoped to accomplish.
If you read the whole article, that's not what he says.
FIRST pull aid from Egypt/Pakistan etc before you even start talking about reducing aid to Israel.
Israel shouldn't have to ask us permission to defend themselves.
Not sure I see anything in there to disagree with.
So Sen. Paul says we should first eliminate aid to Israel’s enemies before reducing aid to Israel. Arm Israel to the teeth while also eliminating to all Islamist countries? I’m cool with that.
I agree with his point that if they take our money, they also take the strings that are attached to it, and they need to be independently able to defend themselves. If, as some have stated in this thread, Netanyahu would also like to have our aid to them reduced so that they can be more independant, I’m cool with that too, as long as the whole world knows that we are completely on Israel’s side.
How come Israel is the only one that has to abide with the alleged “strings attached” to the aid but none of the Islamist countries have to? See the problem with the argument?
No I don't. You're making that up.
I simply don't want to gut our military and throw our most important allies to the hyenas.
Unlike Rand Paul or anyone else in leadership in the Republican Party apparently, I understand that our budget and debt woes are founded in unconstitutional spending, programs and agencies, not our national defense.
"Republicans" these days are overt New Deal Democrats, basically.
I support that too.
But I also understand that in some cases, you need to provide military assistance and aid to strategic military partners, especially in sensitive areas of the world.
You want to end foreign welfare? Get us the hell out of the UN and get the UN out of America. Stop spending money on social welfare programs overseas - like Bush II’s millions to Africa to fight AIDS, or Bush I’s food aid to Somalian maniacs, or Clinton’s military assistance to the Serbians in the Balkans or Obama’s military aid to the Egyptians, Libyan Rebels and Syrian rebels.
But remember that military alliances with real allies, not people like the Egyptians and Saudis, is beneficial to US, which is why I support it.
The two Pauls have unrealistic ideas about foreign policy. America isn’t Switzerland.
Fine with me ... I'm for cutting out ALL (and I do mean ALL) foreign aid. The vast majority goes to third-world freaks that hate us. Cut it all ... gain for the American taxpayers, net gain for our allies ... only the muzzies and other scum really lose. Eff 'em.
YOUR FAT ASS “CHRISTIANS” VOTED TO PUT THIS MORON IN THE WH.
SCREW YOU, FAT ASS (translating your name, FAT ASS).
I agree with the whole concept of cutting aid. It’s down to $3bil a year, and that’s $3bil too many imho. One less lever to use on us.
First, gluteus maximus is the medical term for one of the butt muscles. It doesn't mean "fat ass." What a moron.
Second, I didn't vote for Obama.
Pi$$ off, fool.
Less GOP $$$ to the Pauls would increase their libertarian self-reliance. No “straight party vote” ballot option either.
“The gluteus maximus is the largest and most superficial of the three gluteal muscles. It makes up a large portion of the shape and appearance of the buttocks .”
Oh you’re right, its not fat, ITS JUST SUPERFICIAL *SS MEAT, like your comments.
Maybe you need remedial classes in READING, moron, since I din’t say YOU voted for Obama, I said MOST OF YOUR FELLOW GENTILES DID, based on your repeated whining, (daily? weekly) about the jinos voting for Obama.
STUFF IT, SUPERFICIAL BUTT FACE.
Eat this, you greasy little dweeb.
I agree with you, we cannot play charity when we have no money to give. Until the deficit is fixed, we should not be shipping cash overseas.
Of course the two dirty secrets, foreign aid isn't a significant budget issue, and the expensive aid is expensed to the defense budget.
Hate to intrude with facts but a had the Jewish vote gone 70% Romney rather than Obama, not a single electoral vote would have changed. This is neither a Muslim nor Hindu nor Buddist nation, Obama was elected both times by Christians. The only election I’m aware of where it would have been significant was 2000, where a less than an additional 1% of the Jewish vote in Florida would have given us President Gore
Same goes for Lend-Lease in WWII.
What a complete a##hole, a muzzie-loving skinhead, just like his idiot father.
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Good points, probably go over the head of the “BLAME THE JOOS” crowd here. (Thank God it’s only a small minority).
This is an old position of the Israeli right.
We should not be funding them or the Arabs. And the Arabs depend on the money more than Israel. In fact, by some estimates, we end up hurting the Israelis as they need to spend more on their military to match our funding of potential enemies.
If we were the only ones doing that, it’d be a rather valid argument. Others are funding Israel’s enemies; they’ve been doing it ever since the beginning of the state of Israel too. (Incidentally, which segment of the “right”, the so-called “right-wing” anti-Zionist types?)
The Arabs should not get dime one, unless it is used to recruit and train an anti-PLO insurgency to whittle down Hamas, Fatah, and the various other descendants and followers of the Pedophile. Arab “leaders” from the terrorist groups who travel outside of Gaza or the West Bank should be vanished off the planet until they stop trying to play heads of state and stay put. And then reach retirement age (euphemism).
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