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Raelians defend Old Bridge, NJ third-grader who drew swastika for school assignment
NBC ^ | Jan 4, 2013 | Anthony G. Attrino

Posted on 01/07/2013 9:12:43 PM PST by Coleus

An 8-year-old boy who drew a swastika as part of a holiday assignment at James McDivitt Elementary School did nothing wrong and should not have been reprimanded by school officials, according to members of the International Raelian Movement.

“The swastika is part of the official Raelian symbol,” wrote Raelian Guide Thomas Kaenzig in a letter to Samuel B. Stewart, superintendent of schools in Middlesex County.

“There cannot be a more sacred symbol for us Raelians and this is also the case for the billions of Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and members of other religions on this planet,” Kaenzig wrote.

The child is reportedly of Hindu heritage and drew a tree and the symbol as part of an assignment in December.

School officials reportedly counseled the unidentified third-grader to let him know that while he had done nothing wrong, the perception of the swastika varies by culture.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: counseling; education; hindu; nj; oldbridge; raelians; schools; swastika
I don't know how the Raelians became involved with this but they are right when they said that the symbol is used by the Hindus, it's too bad the Hindu community didn't take the opportunity to educate the school officials who should have known better. Some Hindus have that symbol on their doormats and entrances to their homes.

Notice how the schools immediately found the 8-yr-old child guilty and sent him to "counseling" without the permission of his parents.

1 posted on 01/07/2013 9:12:48 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Living in India, I see the swastika all the time. It’s painted in many places in my wife’s parents’ house, for one thing. On my commute to work every day I pass a house that has a window shaped like a swastika.

There really needs to be a movement to divorce the symbol from the disaster the Nazis perpetrated using it. It’s a lot older than them, and will be around long after they’re forgotten.

And yes, the Hindu and Buddhist communities could have lent a lot of weight to the Raelians’ protest. Few have heard of the Raelians, but almost everyone at least recognizes Hinduism and/or Buddhism.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 9:20:20 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Coleus


Notice how the schools immediately found the 8-yr-old child guilty and sent him to “counseling” without the permission of his parents.”

Excellent point, I had not considered that. Thanks!


3 posted on 01/07/2013 9:25:15 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Coleus


Notice how the schools immediately found the 8-yr-old child guilty and sent him to “counseling” without the permission of his parents.”

Excellent point, I had not considered that. Thanks!


4 posted on 01/07/2013 9:25:50 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Coleus

The U.S Army used to use the Swastika, look up the WWI 45th Infantry Division.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 9:46:32 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The U.S Army used to use the Swastika
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According to the award winning, hit musical “Springtime For Hitler” the Swastika was designed specifically for Hitler because the 4 sevens represented his favorite #.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 9:57:01 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Coleus
I went to look up American Indian use of the swastika design and found lots of other cultures used it. Ancient Greeks, African tribes ... too many to list. See the link.
7 posted on 01/07/2013 10:10:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: xrmusn

It was an American Indian symbol for us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)


8 posted on 01/07/2013 10:17:56 PM PST by ansel12
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To: xrmusn
Mel Brooks was absolutely brilliant but that was just another joke in the movie. The use of the swastika by the NAZIs was part of their mystical mythology about being descended from Aryans.

Swastika - As the symbol of Nazism

The use of the swastika was incorporated by Nazi theorists with their conjecture of Aryan cultural descent of the German people. Following the Nordicist version of the Aryan invasion theory, the Nazis claimed that the early Aryans of India, from whose Vedic tradition the swastika sprang, were the prototypical white invaders.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 10:26:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Mel Brooks was absolutely brilliant but that was just another joke in the movie.
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True, but don’t forget “Springtime for Hitler” was supposed to be the flop in the movie called “The Producers”.

So, the ‘four 7’s’ was another joke in the movie that was a joke in the movie that was a joke.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 10:37:46 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: TigersEye

Quite right. There’s a building in downtown Phoenix right across from the newspaper HQ with “swastikas” all over a border that runs around it. I was told the symbols come from cave paintings and carvings.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 10:52:35 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: ansel12

The Finnish Air Force had a blue swastika painted on their planes during the Finnish-Soviet war of 1939-1940 and probably also when Finland was a co-belligerent with Germany against Russia in order to win back Finnish land lost in the previous war.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 11:15:46 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: xrmusn

(slaps forehead!) LOL I did forget that. Brooks got me again!!! Thanks, FRiend.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 11:48:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: uncommonsense

There was also a Swastika Hotel in Raton NM that had swastikas all around the top of the building. May still be there, I don’t know. And I think there are swastikas in some sidewalks at a NM university. I don’t recall which one but I remember seeing a pic of it many years ago. Both taken from Am. Indian design origins.


14 posted on 01/07/2013 11:53:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Coleus

Raelians “It is numerically the world’s largest UFO religion” according to Wikipedia.

Enough said.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 3:51:01 AM PST by Makana
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To: Coleus

Good lord what a bunch of idiots we have running our schools in this country. I’m a high school dropout and even I recognize the Indian version of the “swastika” as an innocuous symbol.

James McDivitt would be rolling over in his grave iffin he were in it.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 4:20:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Little Pig

“Living in India, I see the swastika all the time”.

I have to tell you this story. A friend of my son’s is originally from India. The boy’s father purchased a 7-11 and put up swastikas in the store. Needless to say, some of the customers went nuts over it. One even asked him if he was a Nazi. Sadly, this really confused the man who really didn’t understand why people were having such a negative reaction to the symbol. Long story short, his son educated him about how the swastika was used negatively and the man took it down. I can’t remember what it means to Indians... good luck or to ward off evil? I remember they use the sign for something good...


17 posted on 01/08/2013 5:24:08 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Coleus

Witch way were the arms pointing? It was also a Native American Good Luck symbol. Hitler reverse it when he used it as a symbol of the Nazi Movement. One direction—religious symbol, other way Nazi Symbol of hate.


18 posted on 01/08/2013 6:21:06 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TigersEye

I love mel’s movies.


19 posted on 01/08/2013 10:36:17 AM PST by Coleus
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