Skip to comments.United Way: No, we didnít know about Dec. 14 Sandy Hook shooting in advance
Posted on 01/08/2013 9:36:27 PM PST by Nachum
The United Way of Western Connecticut said it rejects conspiracy theories claiming it knew about the Dec. 14 Newtown, Conn., school shooting three days in advance and leveraged that knowledge to raise money.
Its preposterous, executive vice president Isabel Almeida told The Daily Caller Tuesday, dismissing what she called a flawed Google search result that suggests her organization issued a statement of condolence and launched a support fund for the victims families on Dec. 11.
That fund has raised more than $6 million, the group reported Jan. 4.
There has been a lot of that going around lately
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If I were going to send money to support the victim’s families, I sure as heck wouldn’t send it to the United Way.
I am wondering why at least one of the parents have set up a page for donations. It is tragic, but it isn’t like the elementary school girl was the breadwinner of the family, and her loss is now putting the family out of their house. It seems creepy to beg for money using your kid’s death like that.
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy? How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?
this is creepy
I agree. Liberals seem to think that money is the magic cure for everything.
Google and the liberal media have given Americans plenty of reason to be suspicious. That's why.
No parent who has just lost their child looks & acts like that. That was not a “brave front” or “composure” or “self control”. Unless this man is a sociopath, there is just no way.
That was his daughter
I'll ask again, "How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?"
Speaking of creepy, there’s more:
Seems to be a whole lot. :(
Holy sh&t, I never saw that video before. Add that there were more than 5 cameras in the school and no video???
Which proves, along with the re-election of Obama/Biden, that the majority of voting age US citizens are not very bright.
The reason I am suspicious of Newtown is because there has been no new information from the police in weeks now, there is no reason to withhold any since no one is being sought or going to trial.
Go to Google.com and do a search on 'sandy hook school support fund'. Then, copy and paste the following character string TO THE VERY END OF THE GOOGLE WEB ADDRESS showing at the top of your browser : &as_qdr=y15
Still shows 'Dec. 11'!!!
Why do you trust Google?
The throes of shock, horror and depression will cause anyone to act in a variety of different ways. What is the appropriate label for someone who criticizes how someone else reacts when they could never know how they themselves would handle such atrocity? It’s called empathy...try it. Someday you may need it too.
That is weird.
Oh, I know exactly the state I would be in- & like most people, have been there for friends & family members who have lost loved ones to illness, accidents, & natural causes. I’ve been there a couple of times with people who were involved or witnessed fatality traffic accidents. Almost all of us witnessed the shock & disbelief experienced by victims & news personnel on September 11th.
I’ve never seen anyone, even in shock or pharmaceutically assisted- or very strong people, with that apparent demeanor. (I have also been a witness to persons injured in a similar shooting: 1979, Battle of Flowers Parade, San Antonio. The shooter was a man named Ira Atterberry (sp) & he was shooting from the parking lot of the bank where I worked.)
Turn off the sound & watch it again.
I’m not out on any limbs speculating about what happened with this shooting, but I stand by what I said.
I also was not the only person to comment on this video, so it is interesting that you addressed only me.
For them this would be normal behavior and in the good old days everyone would recognize it as what it is ~ a burial custom of a small but ancient ethnic group.
Billy Blythe, Bill Clinton's gypsy ancestor, died way back in the 1800s and his relatives begged for money to bury him.
Did you mean this reply to be for me or someone asking about the appeals for financial help, muawiyah? Or is FR having a glitch? I was just questioning the father’s demeanor, but didn’t address the appeal. It’s so common nowadays, I guess I don’t think that much about it.
That’s interesting, though. About all I know about the Roma is their connection to flamenco dancing. And I have a beloved dog named Gypsy.
To Theoria- ;-) Well, this one’s just a given. I suspect Clinton can cry on command faster than any woman alive. We *know* he’s a sociopath. He’s much better at it than 0bama.
Google just reflects what's out there.
That video is extraordinarily weird. The guy’s behavior is beyond bizarre.
But extrapolating from it to show there aren’t really a bunch of dead kids in CT is even weirder.
Implementing such a conspiracy would require the active cooperation of probably hundreds of people in the community, including LEOs, parents, neighbors, etc.
I do not claim there aren’t people who would stage such a conspiracy to make a political point, just that there is no way it could be pulled off.
This particular behavior is typical of that ethnic group. Does not mean they aren't sociopaths, just that they normally DO THAT!
It has something to do with superstitious beliefs about money of different kinds, that difference having to do with its origin ~ e.g. stolen money, earned money, interst paid on money on deposit, inherited money ~ etc. the only good money being that which is contributed (in this case, to yourself).
Way back in the good old days they used to worry about this incessantly ~ no one would take 'blood money', certainly not Christians ~ see this referred to several times in the New Testament. We have judas. We have the widow's mite. We have the money changers. And so on ~ those stories all reflect on money to one extent or the other depending on its origin or its use.
The Gypsies, coming from a Hindu background, simply added all that to their treasurehoue of superstitions to come up with the idea that to bury the dead you must have holy money!
There is plenty of misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and bullshit out there. It takes time and patience to wade through it.
But extrapolating from it to show there arent really a bunch of dead kids in CT is even weirder.”
Well yeah, I agree. It’s a really strange leap. It was such a mess within a couple of days, I don’t see how anyone would be comfortable speculating about it. But it’s the internet & that seems to just be something that people on the internet do.
I was only addressing this Mr Parker’s behavior. I’m not getting mixed up in the speculation. Something’s fishy. I have no idea what.
Sorry, didn’t mean to imply you were making that extrapolation.
Others have, however.
Not just preposterous, but unworthy of a response.
I see. Wow. I would have never connected it to the sociopath thing (& I really wasn’t suggesting he is, either. It was more hyperbole to express the oddness of his apparent detachment. Like “unless he’s an alien...”)
That’s fascinating. And complicated. The concept of blood money, I understand, & Judas. Wow. I never give money that much thought, although I do have a (just me, personally) thing about not writing off donations. (I’m afraid it is removes the spirit of it, I guess)
As I said, I just didn’t think much about the appeal for donations because it’s so commonplace. Or they’re very common where I live.
So what’s the explanation? Does it take 3 days to search the entire internet (that was my first guess but it doesn’t appear to be true)
That’s okay. Lots of different aspects being discussed. It gets kinda wild trying to keep up, at least for me.
now for the medical examiner...
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I don’t have an explanation. I do not even vaguely resemble a computer/internet expert.
I do know that the least likely explanation is a conspiracy involving hundreds or thousand of people. Such a conspiracy is unlikely, not because people aren’t wicked enough, but because three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Hundreds or thousands of people (including, for some obscure reason, the United Way?!), not so much.
first time I’ve seen these videos.
The story doesn’t even make any sense.
Why would a conspirator post an appeal for funds days before the attack took place? Wouldn’t those it was appealing to wonder what attack they were referencing?
Tell that to someone who hasn’t burried a child. If that guy actually lost a child, he is some sort of psychopath.
I suppose United Way may have been "testing their software" on Dec 11. [shrug] It could happen to anyone.
I’m really curious what you think about this.
The group involved is the United Way of Western CT. IOW, a pretty small potatoes group, not some international group of mysterious “banksters.”
Do you seriously think this group and its no doubt less than highly paid and powerful employees were involved in planning and executing the mass murder of schoolchildren?
If not, what is your rationale for believing that those who were involved in the conspiracy would alert the UW of WCT in advance?
Occam's Razor explanation: When the media posts these pre-election results, they tend to use the numbers provided by recent polls. Elections results, oddly enough, also tend to closely correspond to the polls.
I don't know about anyone else but I'd feel pretty darn embarrassed and disgusted if someone walked up to me and handed me a check for that amount if my child had been one of the victims.
But then again, I wouldn't be standing around on my front lawn giving interviews to the press .......or participating in a public candlelight vigil either.
There are some things where common decency should take precedence, not camera whoring.......
I used to make the same argument. Then global warming busted wide open. . Now the razor is “they are lying”.
WOW! That is the little girl AFTER the shooting. Have you tried to debunk this?
Clarification. I don’t think Google or anyone else knew in advance, but the first accounts were way different than the current line. We are not being told the truth and a lot of people are in on it ..