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Cooking With Chef Carlo ^ | 1/9/13 | Carlo3b, Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 01/09/2013 2:56:00 PM PST by carlo3b

NO! No you won’t.. Not now, not ever.. President Obama, you have taken this country down a road that even your most ardent supporters have had to concede is entirely too far to the left of our National patience would have normally allowed with your entitlement philosophies..

Now you have focused on the second amendment, and this time you have taken on the very heart of this country’s pride, and the answer is NO, JUST NO!

This time, Mr. President you have gone too far, and you are on the verge of total rebellion, not just from your detractors, but also from your own supporters..

This time you might just bring everything that has been bottled up, can now be brought to the surface, and finally you will be called upon to answer to all of the wrong headed changes that your arrogance has allowed you to make.. NO! NO! NO! Not Now, Not Ever…

You may want our GUNS, but what you might just get from your fellow citizens response, is one bullet at a time..

Save your legacy, and the break-up of this government, but the very least you will accomplish this time is a total rejection of YOU!.. NO! NO! NO!

TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bloggersandpersonal; donttreadonme; guns; secondamendment; vanity; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Christie at the beach

FoxNews has been reporting about Biden’s comment all evening. And not in support of it.....


41 posted on 01/09/2013 7:37:39 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Christie at the beach

3 shots to his head?

Source, please!

42 posted on 01/10/2013 12:21:40 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: A Navy Vet; Windflier

“There is NO safe place for you, me, our loved ones, our friends, nor the tyrant wannabes. We are all vulnerable to anyone with a scope. “

This is the problem. I know many well armed Southern Democrats who sing the praises of that man in office, some of them, I am reasonably sure, would use those arms to defend liberty, regardless of their otherwise unqualified support. Others, I am also sure, will use them against those who are against the “man who has saved this country” (I kid you not).
I have also met my share of former military hippies, deadheads and rainbow people who have stated they would use their training to do what was necessary to defend their own, and their own understanding of liberty (which may be radically different from ours).
Not all the guns are on “our” side - even here, we see that “our” side has many fracture points when it comes to defining what rights trump others, and I would not be surprised to find fellow freepers, perhaps unbeknownst to one another or not, on opposite ends of a field of fire.
Popular novels such as “Unintended Consequences” champion the idea that conservatives have the upper hand in the weapons category, and that sniping all our leaders will fix the problem.
Morally, this seems to me more akin to the guillotines of the French Revolution than the generally considered Just War of the American one. [Aside, check out “The French and American Revolutions Compared” by Friedrich Gentz, a relatively short treatise now available in e-format on line, complete with translator John Quincy Adams’ introduction]. Furthermore, it violates the idea that the lawful resistor must have some legitimate authority of its own - eg the “lesser magistrate” acting to defend the people from the abuses of those above him. Even the French used the guillotine under color of authority. A million people acting as a law unto themselves, judge jury and executioner in one, would be greater lawlessness than we have now.
Once that genie is out of the bottle there may be no putting it back.

(Windflier, post32: Please tell me what army Obama has up his sleeve that can conquer a force like that?)

We may be making a mistake in assuming that “conquering” or “winning” is the goal of the people in charge of this administration. Remember, it has been reported that Ayers, et al, once schemed ways of taking out 10% of the population. Looking at numerous reports of how the Dems “focus group” and psychoanalyze using even the nuances of various words to influence public perceptions on issues, one might wonder about the long running propaganda campaign to divide us into so many splinters against one another.
If we were to be invaded by a foreign enemy, there would be many cases of “Jamal” and “Bubba” getting each other’s backs. Even if our own government overreached its position carelessly, they would do the same. But we could easily destroy ourselves in the millions, and/or be rendered ineffectual on the world stage, if we do not proceed very carefully from this point.

I pray regularly for the repentance of That Man in office, and his protection. The big Lincoln fad right now has me particularly worried, to be honest. First, it has been decided to put him in the public consciousness with several movies, specials and books. Then we have this foolish (on many fronts) notion of making comparisons between the two. To many it seems evident that the current president was put in office for the purpose of the destabilization of our country and the world. Nothing would enhance that goal more than seeing all the so called parallels between the two carried out in extremis. If we survived the immediate aftermath, we would have a hard and bitter Second Reconstruction, and it would be extremely difficult for the message of conservatism to be divorced from the purposeful conflation with racism and extremism that would surely ensue.
The founders were very careful to list their grievances out of “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind.” We need to do the same, or we will have only chaos and death for an untold and indeterminable time.
A just conflict, with clearly spelled out, even shall we say “self-evident,” reasons and goals, could have a hope of being also a limited one. If we cannot have a reasonable hope of success in winning the conflict and limiting its scope, we only create more evil than that we seek to ameliorate.

43 posted on 01/10/2013 12:32:09 AM PST by Apogee (All done with sleepless contemplation of jus ad bellum and jus in bello, for now.)
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To: A Navy Vet
I work on anAFB. Was talking to an NCO the other day and he asked what would happen if the military was called in to start taking guns. I asked him what he thought he should do and he said he didn't want to be involved in something like that, but what if orders came down the tube?. I reminded him of his oath to uphold the Constitution and to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I also pointed out that he was under oath to foloow the lawful orders of the President and those appointed over him and that the word "lawful" was not there by coincidence. The light clicked on behind his eyes and he knows how he would act. I believe he is part of the majority of military who will not fight against the People in any way that goes against the Consti9tution.
44 posted on 01/10/2013 2:35:41 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: carlo3b

The entity that is behind these not so random shootings will try a third time its the charm event. The theater shooting got interest, Sandy hook got more interest.

The sum of the endeavor is to generate the highest outrage so as to shock America into gun ownership shame.

Just what would it require to absolutely energize the overwhelming majority of citizens?

Apparently even the deaths of small children did not have enough shock.

So another event must be coordinated. The only way to disarm the people is if the people disarm themselves.

My guess is an upcoming sports event, the Superbowl or the Daytona 500.

Or a theme park like Disneyland, but since the higher positions of power in America has been infiltrated by Islamic operatives I could venture to say they may stage a mass Mosque shooting by radical right wing Christian Tea Party NRA members. Islam can very well sacrifice its own for the goal of world dominance.

2AR or The Second American Revolution is being called upon to restore America to a proper legal direction and leadership. Its time to make a coordinated strong armed stand to expunge the infiltration of foreign influence in our nations capitol and the illegal use of power gained illegally, not once but twice illegally elected and maybe soon to be placed there for life.

The Second Amendment is our license to enforce it, shortly soon we must elect local militia leadership and initiate training. I expect there will be certain neighborhoods that will refuse to be armed, trained or even ordered on how and where to assemble.

We shall indeed supply arms and arms training, to mandate the requirements of each person eligible to be armed such as in Switzerland, many will object and will refuse instead preferring the leftist agenda of nobody having any counter weapons to thwart a dictatorship, these individuals may need to be relocated to temporary internment camps for their own safety for their families until hostilities cease and the proper legal government is restored.

45 posted on 01/10/2013 2:39:59 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: FrogMom
Hubby and I heard it reported on our local news the first day that it happened but now we cannot find it anywhere on the news site. We don’t watch hardly any cable news so don’t know what all they are reporting.
46 posted on 01/10/2013 2:57:55 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: carlo3b

47 posted on 01/10/2013 3:20:30 AM PST by Howie
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To: Howie

The big drug companies contribute enormous amounts of money to the powers-that-be to keep the fact secret that virtually ALL these shooters were being treated with drugs that are known to cause suicidal and murderous obsession!

The media hate guns so are happy to play along .

48 posted on 01/10/2013 3:24:55 AM PST by Howie
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To: carlo3b

For any doubters :Google “massacres and anti-depressants”

49 posted on 01/10/2013 3:32:07 AM PST by Howie
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To: Howie

Sounds to me like something out of the sci fi show “Serenity” where they treated a whole planet to an anti aggression compound, half the planet just shut down and died, the rest turned into crazed killing monsters.

Our politicians are impotent castrated fools and we have crazed psychotropic individuals eager to take suggestions from an outside group on who and what to attack to further THEIR agenda.

50 posted on 01/10/2013 3:37:14 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Eye of Unk

Some day Jihadists will find a small nuke on their doorstep, compliments of one of our enemies. They will drive or float it to our capitol and we will have to build a new government.

We have gone from a united, almost universally admired country to a hated, divided, laughing stock, all in one generation. The once proud “news media” are now mostly, lying whores, swooning at the feet of corrupt entertainers!

JUst my opinion!

51 posted on 01/10/2013 4:16:19 AM PST by Howie
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To: Eye of Unk

Reavers. *shudder*

52 posted on 01/10/2013 4:25:58 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Windflier

Its the chaos that he wants. They think that the rest will fall into place. History has shown this to be true. However, history also shows that the “rulers” always get it in the end. Sometimes its sooner more often its later..much later after they have done immeasurable damage and caused untold suffering.

53 posted on 01/10/2013 6:53:59 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: carlo3b


I see another cartoon coming , using 2 metaphors, straw that broke the camel’s back, camels nose under the tent”.

Aren’t they both from the bible?

54 posted on 01/10/2013 10:14:08 AM PST by Howie
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To: Don Corleone
Its the chaos that he wants. They think that the rest will fall into place. History has shown this to be true.

Things have only ever 'fallen into place' for dictators after they disarmed the public. It's never been otherwise. It's sheer suicide for a dictator wanna-be to inflame an armed citizenry.

They're children playing with fire.

55 posted on 01/10/2013 12:31:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: carlo3b

Maybe it’s time for Freepers to march on DC again.

I’m sure we could get at least another couple of groups to join us—and I’d almost bet we could get the TEA partiers to jump in.....

56 posted on 01/10/2013 7:40:22 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment
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To: basil

It is time to march on the Capitol....armed.

57 posted on 01/11/2013 11:09:09 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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