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New York City to Restrict Prescription Painkillers in Public Hospitalsí Emergency Rooms
New York Slimes ^ | January 10, 2013 | ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS

Posted on 01/10/2013 7:33:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City’s 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse.

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Why is it that the Lefty default position is to punish the innocent?
1 posted on 01/10/2013 7:33:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So while you (the law abiding citizen) is gritting their teeth in pain from after surgery pain.....across town some snooty lib sipping white wine has plenty of painkillers.


2 posted on 01/10/2013 7:38:04 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You’ll note his decree doesn’t affect him and his buddies only those who go to the public hospitals. Bet the rules wouldn’t be enforced if one his buds showed up for some reason at one of the covered ER’s


3 posted on 01/10/2013 7:39:55 PM PST by airedale
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s an interesting conundrum. But you’re correct, the leftist default is to screw everybody, especially the innocent who will suffer the most, and let Gaea sort them out.


4 posted on 01/10/2013 7:40:16 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: jakerobins

I would hope that if one has surgical pain, one would be getting these prescriptions from one’s surgeon and not an Emergency Room?


5 posted on 01/10/2013 7:42:32 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Shared sacrifice for the proletariat . The ruling class claim to sacrifice the most so they're always excluded from the greatest suffering.

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6 posted on 01/10/2013 7:44:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

bloomberg does not know what it’s like to do without anything his black heart desires. He loves the power he has and he wields it like any tyrant who has ever been. Absolutely.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 7:47:35 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: MestaMachine

BUMP. That tiny man is power drunk.


8 posted on 01/10/2013 7:49:31 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The first legit case denied proper medication needs to sue NYC and Hizzhonor for interfering with a legit doctor’s job, pain and literal suffering.

Note I said ‘legit. Not Blooming idiot’s call to legally make.


9 posted on 01/10/2013 7:49:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A liberal with power is a special kind of evil, isn’t it?


10 posted on 01/10/2013 7:50:00 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The nanny of the state is a nasty master.


11 posted on 01/10/2013 7:50:44 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: jakerobins
Personally, after a major surgery, I rejected most pain medication, and when I left the hospital, I left the pain scrips with the doc. I wasn't going to pay for crap that made me the intellectual equivalent of a rock.

If the patients are getting their service and meds on the taxpayer dime, I'm all for restricting pain medications.

I restrict mine because I'm paying for it.

/johnny

12 posted on 01/10/2013 7:51:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

You have a pretty good bead on it there.


13 posted on 01/10/2013 7:52:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bloombastard has obviously never been in serious pain, that S.O.B. I would say that causing suffering to people in pain is pure evil. Most people who end up in hospitals are in pain!


14 posted on 01/10/2013 7:53:17 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I once thought i knew pain.....Then i woke up in the hospital with 10 titanium screws in my wrist, a wired broken jaw, a broken rib, a broken clavicle a concussion and internal bleeding.
It was my wrist though, I never felt such unbelievable pain.
Like my hand and arm was dipped in boiling oil.

in that case i think i’d need a little more that a vicotin.
Jeeeez.....


15 posted on 01/10/2013 7:53:27 PM PST by mowowie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m a bit conflicted on this one. There is considerable abuse of the system, with people going into the public hospitals purely to get some of these drugs. As the article suggests, the problem is probably worse in Florida and California than in New York, but I’m sure there is some abuse, and that many doctors may find it easier just to go along with the patients’ requests than to refuse them.

On the other hand, medical care should be handled by doctors and nurses, not by politicians. Bloomberg has a problem of addressing problems and making them worse.

I’m not sure what the answer is, but this probably isn’t it.


16 posted on 01/10/2013 7:55:30 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JRandomFreeper

While I do not think the .gov shoudl make such rules we alreay do this. 2-4 days of pain meds from the ER. I would never give oxycontin,fentenyl ,Morphne etc to a ER patient I was sending home. As for as someone coming to the ER for pain meds cause they (lost, had stolen or the dog ate) is a big red flag and a NO. Even my own patients is the clinic get a NO for those reasons. If they are stolen they must bring in a police report. Alot of patients LIE. These are stories I have heard for years.


17 posted on 01/10/2013 7:56:48 PM PST by therut
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To: JRandomFreeper

Patients should not be relying upon scripts from the ER anyway. I’ve never had an ER give me more than the bare minimum to get by until I see a real Dr. This has been true since the ‘80’s, nothing new.

That said, this policy does a pretty good job of making the bureaucracy look stupid, and I’m all for that....


19 posted on 01/10/2013 7:58:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: jakerobins

That was an episode of Voyager.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 7:59:35 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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21 posted on 01/10/2013 8:00:50 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: therut

Amen. And I am not a Dr.


22 posted on 01/10/2013 8:01:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: therut
I actually got gritched at by one of the docs in the trauma recovery unit for not mashing that opiate button enough.

Sorry, thanks, no... I like to be awake unless it's time to sleep.

When they came in later and told me they were putting in a chest tube... I mashed that button until it stopped delivering. Sucks to be awake for that. Never did scream, though.

/johnny

23 posted on 01/10/2013 8:01:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
all well and good except him and his rich richy elites will get the top of the line drugs from private clinics and hospitals...

the real drug problem is our richy rich people live perverted drugged adled lives and they're EXAMPLES to our children....

" The values of the weak prevail (abortion on demand, promiscutiy,homosexuality,pornography,incest,frequent divorce, etc) because the strong (read: rich and powerful elite) have taken them over as devices of leadership"...Nietzche....

24 posted on 01/10/2013 8:08:09 PM PST by cherry
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To: onyx

I think he is certifiably insane myself...and I mean it. I think the man went ‘round the bend a long time ago.


25 posted on 01/10/2013 8:09:14 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So what year did Bloomberg graduate from medical school? Oh, he didn’t.


26 posted on 01/10/2013 8:11:01 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Who knew? Bloomberg is a Doctor.


27 posted on 01/10/2013 8:14:48 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: therut

You also know vital signs don’t lie. Patients do.


28 posted on 01/10/2013 8:16:36 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Are we related?

I don’t think anyone should be left in unbearable pain, but I would rather endure the pain than not know what I am doing...or seeing. And I actually recover faster and better.


29 posted on 01/10/2013 8:22:04 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: MestaMachine
After my experience on the mountain, I don't think there's any such thing as 'unbearable' pain. God was merciful, and I blacked out off and on. I did bear the pain that was there, unless I passed out.

That's good enough.

/johnny

30 posted on 01/10/2013 8:27:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

what the hell is this cuomo maggot doing? He’s goign to try to enforce mental evaluatiosn for gun owners, tells opeople what they cna and can’t eat- orders resteraunts noty to sell certain food sizes, refuses to allow christians to attend certain meetings- and now this too? Who the hell does he think he is?


31 posted on 01/10/2013 8:51:04 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I take it you’ve never had the pleasure of passing kidney stones? The pain is so bad you arel iterally screaming out of your mind- but feelign every last minute of the 8 or so hours of cosntant pain too much to bear- Sure- you get through it somehow- however- it’s a pain noone shoudl have to bear if they don’t have to- I only wished I could pass out- And beleive me, with Crohn’s disease as well, I’ve had pain where I did pass out, and that was child’s play compared to kidney stone pain


32 posted on 01/10/2013 8:56:17 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
I lost a kidney in the accident. Blunt trauma crushing to a kidney bad enough to also take out the spleen is also somewhat painful. I spent 2 hours on the mountain, in the blizzard with that before they found me and got me to the big house. 3 hours more to the hospital.

Pain is weakness leaving the body.

/johnny

33 posted on 01/10/2013 9:01:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Here is a PDF. Use search for “Pain”.
http://www.usafa.edu/10abw/10mdg/cc/support/patient_BillofRights.pdf

It has been medical facility rules for years to listen to the patient. During my nursing med rounds, I had to give pain meds within ten minutes of the request. Of course it had to be within the ordered times.

34 posted on 01/10/2013 9:02:05 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy
From PDF:
Pain Assessment and Management: Patients have the right to pain management. The patient has the right to receive appropriate pain assessment and pain management and to know that all reports of pain will be taken seriously and responded to by our healthcare professionals in a quick and caring manner.

“...to know that all reports of pain will be taken seriously and responded to by our healthcare professionals in a quick and caring manner.”

35 posted on 01/10/2013 9:10:25 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: MestaMachine
Remember Bloomy couldn't do without air conditioning in his SUV? (from the NY Post) Mayor Bloomberg wants to maintain his politically correct credentials on global warming — but hates to get into a hot car when he leaves an air conditioned building. The solution his aides came up with could easily have doubled as a stunt on David Letterman’s show. In full view of bemused tourists and other passers-by, workers yesterday performed what looked like a comedy routine: They hoisted a standard room air conditioner to a side window of one of the mayor’s SUVs parked in the City Hall lot to see if it would fit. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/hizzoner_cold_feat_lYxDIMuat7x4PL7nUbdBEM
36 posted on 01/10/2013 9:11:56 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: CottShop

Odd that you should mention them. I had been having back pain for about 2 weeks. Went to the dr today and she said she thought I had them. She got me in to have a CT scan and some X-rays after I left her office. This just does not feel like the last time but I guess they are different. Will have to wait on results.


37 posted on 01/10/2013 9:31:52 PM PST by MamaB
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Last winter while doctoring for a herniated disc, I went to the ER on a Saturday nite in such horrible pain, I almost passed out. I was given IV for pain & also a Fentanyl patch & sent home.

Had they not been able to give me the Fentanyl patch, I would probably had been admitted for the pain. That just drives up insurance costs.

It is ridiculous to make a broad, across the board ruling like this, as it will hurt the people who truly do need the pain med.

I am not one to like taking those strong pain meds either, but there are circumstances where it is medically necessary!

38 posted on 01/10/2013 9:54:33 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

At least it’s not the feds.


39 posted on 01/10/2013 10:13:34 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: jakerobins

I think of myself as being a good (but often snarky) Christian lady, but more than jst a few bad words burned through my brain when I read this.

Chronic pain has been my most unworthy opponent for more than 25 of my 47 years. I’ve had surgeries and taken ibuprofen until it chewed its way out and have plenty of experience at “managing” it. There’s pain and there’s breakthrough pain, which is a tough thing to wrestle down if it’s allowed to grow that fierce.

I secrectly pray Bloomberg gets a tooth abcess, needs urgent treatment to drain it and then a root canal. I’d be eternally grateful if his dentist would forget t give him novacane and T3’s afterward.

Bastard.


40 posted on 01/10/2013 10:41:49 PM PST by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: jakerobins

I think of myself as being a good (but often snarky) Christian lady, but more than jst a few bad words burned through my brain when I read this.

Chronic pain has been my most unworthy opponent for more than 25 of my 47 years. I’ve had surgeries and taken ibuprofen until it chewed its way out and have plenty of experience at “managing” it. There’s pain and there’s breakthrough pain, which is a tough thing to wrestle down if it’s allowed to grow that fierce.

I secrectly pray Bloomberg gets a tooth abcess, needs urgent treatment to drain it and then a root canal. I’d be eternally grateful if his dentist would forget t give him novacane and T3’s afterward.

Bastard.


41 posted on 01/10/2013 10:41:56 PM PST by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

A doctor who’s never been in serious pain, OBVIOUSLY.


42 posted on 01/10/2013 11:30:06 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: CottShop
"I take it you've never had the pleasure of passing kidney stones? The pain is so bad you arel iterally screaming out of your mind"

Yep - very true. Thank God it was only for a few minutes. I imagine that's what it feels like to be disemboweled. The stone was probably the sharpest pain - compared to breaking about every type of bone in my body and having the outer layers of my eyes scraped away for PRK surgery. Also, trying to sleep with 3rd degree burns is pretty wicked.

But, who cares about any of that. I'm sure Bloomburger has it all figured out for the poor suckers who can't afford his privileged lifestyle.

By the way, does the camera distort his shape, or is he a bit chubby from over eating? His motto: (fill in the blank - e.g. fat) ______ for me and not for thee...

43 posted on 01/11/2013 12:09:37 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: MamaB

in a year and 1/2 I’ve passed well over 100 stones- It has gotten to htep oint I think where there might be scarring because the pain has lessened over that time with each stone-

With a stone, as you probably know, the pain begins in the back and feelsl ike someone has punched you in the kidneys- then the pain swings to the front whrre it becoems unbearable if hte stone is sharp and large enough- I liken the pain to hjaving a red hot wire threaded through the urethra and kept hot for 8 or so hours and the point of hte wire repeatedly jabbed into the flesh- Fortunately I’ve only had to go through that around five times as most of the hundred plus stones have either been small and only causedm inor dicomfort, or not sharp and pass through with little problem,-

Someoen mentioend that ‘pain is natural’ however, so is disease, yet we take all manner of medicatiosn to try to control disease, and I think it’s just silly to forego relief if it’s available- if you abstain from the relief, you don’t end up recovering any more thoroughly or better- yes, you will recover without pain meds, however, why? What’s the point? To prove ‘toughness’? Because oru ancestors had to endure pain? No thanks- We have help available to us today thanks to breakthroughs in medicines- and hwen needed, I’ll use them if possible- I’;m not out to pass some kind of toughman contest-


44 posted on 01/11/2013 10:17:54 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: uncommonsense

it can distort the figure dependign on the lens used- however, I’m sure he’s packed o nthe pounds over the years- so it’s probably natural


45 posted on 01/11/2013 10:18:44 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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