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Sales of Guns Soar in U.S. as Nation Weighs Tougher Limits
NY Times ^

Posted on 01/12/2013 11:33:59 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

As Washington focuses on what Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. will propose next week to curb gun violence, gun and ammunition sales are spiking in the rest of the country as people rush to expand their arsenals in advance of any restrictions that might be imposed.

People were crowded five deep at the tiny counter of a gun shop near Atlanta, where a pastor from Knoxville, Tenn., was among the customers who showed up in person after the store’s Web site halted sales because of low inventory. Emptying gun cases and bare shelves gave a picked-over feel to gun stores in many states. High-capacity magazines, which some state and federal officials want to ban or restrict, were selling briskly across the country: one Iowa dealer said that 30-round magazines were fetching five times what they sold for just weeks ago.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; awb; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
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To: 300winmag

I know there’s a gap between what the government shouldn’t do and reality but if those mags are personal property they shouldn’t be confiscating them. I get tired of repeating the phrase but ... that’s unAmerican.


51 posted on 01/12/2013 4:00:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Travis McGee
"But we sure do live in “interesting times,” eh? Which means a HUGE load is on our shoulders. We must NOT be the generation that dropped Liberty’s torch!"

Yes we do. I'm just fearful that when we're gone, if the Vets from the Persian Gulf, Iraq, and Afganiscrap wars will carry on. I have to admit, I'm getting very cynical of the American populace and their obsessions with "Housewives of who gives a shit", "Jersey Shitheads", and "Honey Booboo fat ass", etc. Very discouraging, not to mention the fact that the takers re-elected Obambi.

Still, read my tagline. Although I was never in combat, I would gladly run point. Well, at my age, walk point...haha. I'll take the bullet for my betters to advance. Take care, Trident holder. Later.

52 posted on 01/12/2013 4:06:31 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent. I’d like to see that same poster with only the base image and the text below it. Simpler message, more impact.


53 posted on 01/12/2013 4:10:19 PM PST by barefoot_hiker
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To: Red in Blue PA
in PA??? OK, two things, 1) how can he buy a gun if he's British and 2)he's an Anti Gun-nut "I hate handguns. They are used to shooting people and as long as they are around, people will shoot each other." – actor Daniel Craig, to OK! magazine
54 posted on 01/12/2013 4:40:41 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TigersEye
Okay, but I do I need black powder ammo to clear my sinuses?

My biggest disappointment in living in suburban America is that all we have is in-door ranges. No rifles or shotguns. Although I did pay a few bucks some months ago for a class on shotguns, mostly just to famfire (familiarization firing).

We practiced with a .410, 20 guage, 12 guage (870), and a semi-auto 12 guage (very cool). My only experience with a shotgun was many years ago during Navy while shooting from the shoulder. Learned how to shoot from the hip and under the armpit. I was surprised to find such little recoil from the hip and armpit...just swings in your arms if kept away from the body. Of course, not as accurate as from the shoulder.

However, I have a brilliant light and laser combo on my 870 for home defense. No, I'm not going to go hunting for intruders - can't believe how many macho guys think that is a good thing. My wife and I have the following protocol:

We lock the door in the closest room; call 911 and let them know about the intruder and that "we are in fear for our lives"; keep the line open; and hunker down with 12guage facing the door. If the intruder[s] try to gain entrance, I simply say, "the police are on the way". Depending how hard they're trying to gain entrance, I may say, "there's a shotgun behind this door, I will fire". And no, I will not count on the racking sound to deter them, as so many claim. I will already have one in the chamber. They get a warning and then get 9 bullets at once, and I can rack fast so another 9 bullets coming at them.

Our home-defense philosophy is let them take what they will rather than face a Prosecutor inquiry and/or a civil suit or worse, their weapons. This is California. However, enough pushing on the door, 00 buck is going to make its mess.

55 posted on 01/12/2013 4:43:23 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet
The CA "assault weapon" ban has completely fallen apart. It seems that the law is no match for technology.

The text of the law requires that banned firearms be listed by make and model. The AG can petition to add new models to the list, but that process takes longer than it does for all of the little machine shops across the country to churn out new models. The AG's gun detail couldn't keep up. New models appeared faster than they could ban them. So when Jerry Brown was AG, he recognized the writing on the wall and gave up on keeping the list up-to-date. (Yes, that Jerry Brown!) The last update to the list was in October of 2000. Now the State is awash in "off list" rifles. There is a thriving cottage industry turning out off-list AR lower receivers.

In essence, California no longer has an "assault weapon" ban.

56 posted on 01/12/2013 5:02:53 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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To: A Navy Vet
Okay, but I do I need black powder ammo to clear my sinuses?

That should work! If you touch it off in the pan of a flintlock it should neatly trim your mustache and eyebrows too.

Your home defense philosophy is a sound one IMO. All the legal expenses and hassles could be a nightmare.

FWIW a friend of mine was talking to a local popo not long ago about a thug who was threatening his adult son and him. Said friend knows all the local LEOs well as he's a gabber and has been a frequent breakfast customer of the same diner's they eat at for decades. Friend says to cop "if he comes around here threatening me again I'll put one right in his forehead." (Not an idle threat. He could and would do it.) Cop says to him "Whoa, no no, Dave, don't shoot him in the head. Don't do that. The DA will automatically bill it as a homicide. Put three in his chest but please don't shoot him in the head, Dave."

YMMV depending on the jurisdiction you live in but I thought I'd pass that conversation on.

57 posted on 01/12/2013 5:08:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Chode

She did not say what kind of gun he purchased. It could have been a rifle or a shotgun. I was not aware of the that quote. Cabela’s Hamburg Gun Library has some very expensive guns.....some are $50,000 pieces of history. I have no idea what he purchased. And I can only assume that he bought one because he is a dual citizen.


58 posted on 01/12/2013 5:26:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
And I can only assume that he bought one because he is a dual citizen.

OK, i did not know that

59 posted on 01/12/2013 5:43:43 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Redcloak
The text of the law requires that banned firearms be listed by make and model. The AG can petition to add new models to the list, but that process takes longer than it does for all of the little machine shops across the country to churn out new models. The AG's gun detail couldn't keep up. New models appeared faster than they could ban them.

There are still a lot of loopholes that have to be wiggles through to make it legal to use a "bullet button" for your CA-legal 10-round magazine. If your rifle has even one forbidden "feature", the magazine must be installed and removed with a screwdriver or other tool, rather than the "bullet button" that they figured would solve all their evil magazine problems.

So some genius has come up with enough changes to make your AR15 "featureless" so you have the legal permission to continue to use the "bullet button". Still ten round mag limit, though.


60 posted on 01/12/2013 6:49:37 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: Redcloak
"In essence, California no longer has an "assault weapon" ban."

Yes, I know there are after-market products that get around the "bullet button". California will eventually declare them illegal. I so want out of this socialist State, but can't due to my wife's job and family. I will have to suck it up for the time being.

61 posted on 01/12/2013 10:00:51 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Obama’s lies, tyrannical behavior and hateful demeanor towards the free people of the land have pushed gun sales through the roof. Hello Biden, Osamaobama, Feinstien, Gregory et. al., keep talking and the people will keep buying. God bless them and God bless America.
62 posted on 01/14/2013 7:44:12 AM PST by Postnbeam (Time is not on our side.)
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