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Republican Establishment Declares War on GOP Voters [Scott Rasmussen]
Rasmussen Reports ^ | Friday, January 11, 2013 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 01/13/2013 7:33:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance

Official Washington hailed the deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff as a significant bipartisan accomplishment. However, voters around the country viewed the deal in very partisan terms: Seven out of 10 Democrats approved of it, while seven...of 10 Republicans disapproved.

Just a few days after reaching that agreement, an inside-the-Beltway publication reported another area of bipartisan agreement...while Washington Democrats have always viewed GOP voters as a problem, Washington Republicans "in many a post-election soul-searching session" have come to agree. More precisely, the article said the party's Election 2012 failures have "brought forth one principal conclusion from establishment Republicans: They have a primary problem."

As seen from the halls of power, the problem is that Republican voters think it's OK to replace incumbent senators and congressman who don't represent the views of their constituents. In 2012, for example, Republican voters in Indiana dumped longtime Sen. Richard Lugar in a primary battle.

This infuriated establishment Republicans for two reasons. First, because they liked Lugar and the way he worked. Second, because the replacement candidate was flawed and allowed Democrats to win what should have been a safe Republican seat.

So, according to Politico, the Washington team is gearing up a new effort to protect incumbents and limit the ability of Republican voters to successfully challenge establishment candidates.

That makes sense to those whose sole goal is winning a majority in Congress rather than changing the course of government policy. Seen from the outside, though, it sounds like the professional politicians are saying that the only way to win is to pick more candidates like the insiders. Hearing that message, the reaction of many Republican and conservative voters is, "Why bother?"

That's why more than two-thirds of Republican voters believe GOP officials in Washington have lost touch with the party's base.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2013polls; congress; gop; gope; primaries
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1 posted on 01/13/2013 7:33:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh this will work out well for the GOP establishment.
Hello Whig Party....


2 posted on 01/13/2013 7:35:08 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Just how many liberal and moderate gop senate candidates lost?


3 posted on 01/13/2013 7:37:42 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: EternalVigilance

Talk about old news, decades old news...


4 posted on 01/13/2013 7:37:57 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: EternalVigilance

That does it...I’m registering as an Independent. Screw the GOP.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 7:41:17 AM PST by madmominct
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To: EternalVigilance

So, according to Politico, the Washington team is gearing up a new effort to protect incumbents and limit the ability of Republican voters to successfully challenge establishment candidates

It’s been done for a while now. That’s how we got Mutt as a candidate.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 7:41:45 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Kozak

7 posted on 01/13/2013 7:42:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: Sybeck1

Lots and lots.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 7:43:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Republican voter base is in an abusive relationship with the GOPe. It’s time for the base to file for divorce. And a restraining order.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 7:46:07 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: EternalVigilance

Snowe, Brown and Lugar were replaced by Cruz, Flake and Fischer.

They hate that!


10 posted on 01/13/2013 7:46:15 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: EternalVigilance

Rove and Romney and Boehner are NOT satisfied
with ruining TWO elections and placing the Tyrant
in office.

The GOP is the enemy of Conservatives.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 7:46:38 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: freedomfiter2

Good riddance to them!

We have anarchy now!

Time to End the anarchy and form a new
party!


12 posted on 01/13/2013 7:48:28 AM PST by Morris70
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To: cotton1706

Good point.


13 posted on 01/13/2013 7:48:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: EternalVigilance

What more can the GOPe do?

They have already successfully shoved mcLame and then milt down our throats.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 7:48:57 AM PST by rhinohunter
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To: holdonnow; suspects

Of interest PING!


15 posted on 01/13/2013 7:49:24 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Actually somewhat surprised to see Scott Rasmussen write a piece like this, and while it's old news, it repeats a truth by a media figure that we (Conservatives) don't have a representative Party.

I used to believe that our only option was to reclaim the Republican Party. Now, I think we'd have about the same chance taking over the Democrat Party. Hence, our best option is another Party.

16 posted on 01/13/2013 7:51:55 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: EternalVigilance
As seen from the halls of power, the problem is that Republican voters think it's OK to replace incumbent senators and congressman who don't represent the views of their constituents.

*************

Isn't that the whole purpose behind "government of the people, by the people and for the people" or am I missing something?

Besides, all they do with the majorities we hand them is to continue our march off the cliff, or else cave and surrender. Who needs the GOP elite when they can't win the game with the players we send in?

Screw 'em. We'll keep throwing out bums and losers, again and again and again, until we get results, dammit!

17 posted on 01/13/2013 7:52:07 AM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And of course, should an honest, conservative Republican candidate manage to win despite the efforts of the GOP-e, they'll try their best to corrupt them, to get them over to the dark side...

"We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples. As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”


18 posted on 01/13/2013 7:52:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: DNME
We'll keep throwing out bums and losers, again and again and again, until we get results, dammit!

Problem is that the GOP-E is trying to rig the primaries so that we can't do it anymore. That's the point of the original story referenced by Rasmussen:

GOP scrambles to fix its primary problem

19 posted on 01/13/2013 7:56:20 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: EternalVigilance

We still pay attention to Rasmussen?


21 posted on 01/13/2013 7:56:55 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: madmominct
That does it...I’m registering as an Independent. Screw the GOP.

I gave up on the GOP a couple months ago. I plan to vote for candidates of the American Conservative Party and anyone else who represents my viewpoints. I know that the GOP doesn't.

22 posted on 01/13/2013 7:58:42 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Timber Rattler

We listen to politico?


23 posted on 01/13/2013 7:59:29 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, what a bunch of antidisestablishmentarianism!


24 posted on 01/13/2013 8:00:01 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: palmer
We still pay attention to Rasmussen?

When we agree with him.

Hey, this is Free Republic!

/s

25 posted on 01/13/2013 8:00:52 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: palmer

Trying to protect the party, eh, by questioning the messengers?


26 posted on 01/13/2013 8:01:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: EternalVigilance

The problem is that too many of our little Republican primary voters are themselves establishment or establishment-wannabees, the kind receptive to Jebbie for 2016 because “only he can win.”


27 posted on 01/13/2013 8:04:57 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: EternalVigilance

I didn’t leave the GOP, they left me.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 8:05:46 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Timber Rattler
GOP scrambles to fix its primary problem

If the GOP wants to fix it's primary problem, they wouldn't let just anyone vote in "open primaries".

29 posted on 01/13/2013 8:06:21 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Timber Rattler
Trying to protect the party, eh, by questioning the messengers?

The die hard apologists will always be around. They're still parading in Moscow, pining for Vladimir, for goodness sake.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 8:06:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Theodore R.

Well, we certainly got more than a full dose of that last year.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 8:06:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: EternalVigilance

On an another note, why do we allow Iowa and New Hampshire pick our candidate? They don’t vote for them in the general!!


32 posted on 01/13/2013 8:07:01 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: madmominct
That does it...I’m registering as an Independent. Screw the GOP.

I says screw the GOPe, not the GOP. No third party has a chance of success, except to guarantee a Communist victory. We must defeat the GOPe in the primaries and elect more Republicans like Ted Cruz. Taking back the GOP - perhaps with a handful of Conservative independent candidates who will caucus on the Right side of the aisle - is the only road to success.

Senate Target Number One: Saxby Chambliss of Georgia
House Target Number One: Phil Gingrey of Georgia

33 posted on 01/13/2013 8:07:01 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine
See #19 above.
34 posted on 01/13/2013 8:12:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cotton1706

Flake is better than them two earmark loving, pork fondling Republicrats from Mississippi. But I am still not convinced that he is any better than Kyle. I sure hope so, but only time will tell.


35 posted on 01/13/2013 8:13:35 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yep, patriotic American conservatives have been some of the most despised people in the country (and the world) for a while now. We’re the thorn in the side of the totalitarians that never completely goes away.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 8:15:42 AM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: madmominct
That does it...I’m registering as an Independent. Screw the GOP.

My wife and I changed our registration from stupid party to independent two weeks ago. Liberating and refreshing!

37 posted on 01/13/2013 8:15:46 AM PST by Salvey
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To: EternalVigilance

They truly are stupid. Without the base, they will never win control. But then, I think the GOP establishment prefers to be in the minority.


38 posted on 01/13/2013 8:18:19 AM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: Sybeck1
And what do you mean by that question? Does it matter if they ALL won? Then you are implying that statist philosophy won, in which case why should I have even voted for any of those Republicrats, since they are themselves statists, (read collectivists) and I for one, AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT!

That's either more proof of a SCREAMING need for a third party, or that America really is lost to the statists(collectivists). Which do you believe?

I believe we stand on principles or whats the sense of voting, since they`d ALL be statists any way?

39 posted on 01/13/2013 8:18:32 AM PST by nomad
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To: EternalVigilance
This infuriated establishment Republicans for two reasons. First, because they liked Lugar and the way he worked. Second, because the replacement candidate was flawed and allowed Democrats to win what should have been a safe Republican seat.

This is not completely true. Mark Kirk was flawed and still won because the GOP-e supported him to the hilt, as did rank and file conservatives, foolishly. Meanwhile Mourdock lost in Indiana not because he was flawed, but because the GOP-e bailed on him because he defeated one of their golden boys. Same thing happened to Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. Until conservatives learn NEVER to support liberal Republicans under any circumstances, nothing will change.
40 posted on 01/13/2013 8:19:00 AM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Further evidence that this nation is being run by two criminal organizations...the Republican and Democratic parties.


41 posted on 01/13/2013 8:20:17 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: AdaGray
They truly are stupid. Without the base, they will never win control. But then, I think the GOP establishment prefers to be in the minority.

I think their internal polls tell them that enough people will stay. We are sadly, a minority; most of their supporters are the GOP equivalent of low-information voters.

42 posted on 01/13/2013 8:23:12 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Zero sympathy. Plenty of folks had their traps shut when Dubya was enacting liberal policies. Seems a bit “johnny come lately” that, when a D is in the White House supporting those very same policies - hello amnesty -, a stink is finally raised.


43 posted on 01/13/2013 8:24:16 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: EternalVigilance

The GOP is dead. People like Karl Rove killed it.

Sarah Palin now leads a Third Party whether she knows it or not.


44 posted on 01/13/2013 8:25:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Roccus
Further evidence that this nation is being run by two criminal organizations...the Republican and Democratic parties.

Absolutely. Hence my tagline.

45 posted on 01/13/2013 8:25:52 AM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: EternalVigilance
My Representative (R) and his Dem colleague voted for the Fiscal Crisis bill.

The other two state Reps (R's) voted against.

I sent my Rep a scathing email and pointed out that he may face the issue in 2014.

He sent a reply (boilerplated, I'm sure) about how desperate Washington was about avoiding the fiscal cliff, yada yada yada. And that was why HE voted for it.

46 posted on 01/13/2013 8:29:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: madmominct
"That does it...I’m registering as an Independent. Screw the GOP."

My wife and I are independents. I've not voted for a Democrat in 40 years, and my campaign contributions have always gone exclusively to the GOP (they are now stopping) but I'm an independent.

"In 1835, under President Andrew Jackson, the US Federal Budget was balanced and the National Debt was paid in full. This has never happened since."

Andrew Jackson was a Democrat, so there is always hope!

47 posted on 01/13/2013 8:30:02 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Salvey

Unfortunately you and your wife will be unable to help us elect conservatives in the primary. You have just helped to hand over the country to the GOPe


48 posted on 01/13/2013 8:30:46 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Rational Thought

as Goober used to say................”well gaahhh......LEE!!!!

you nailed it best!!

Wonder when and IF ALL conservatives will “get it?”

Who would lead such a party? I say DeMint is the only viable candidate for such a position. I would say Cruz but he has a birther issue, I think? Then, whoever came out on top would need to keep Repulican(e’s) OUT in order to not dilute a new third party’s effectiveness.

Another I would darn sure vote for would be West! Hmmm.......a Demint/West ticket, or visa versa! Think I would have died and gone to heaven to ever see that!


49 posted on 01/13/2013 8:33:27 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Unfortunately the majority of the “Republican establishment”, that includes most of the elected Republican US Senators and quite a few of the Republican US House members, would love to stay in the minority but keep their sinecures. Then we have idiots like Karl Rove ...


50 posted on 01/13/2013 8:34:10 AM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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