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Republican Establishment Declares War on GOP Voters [Scott Rasmussen]
Rasmussen Reports ^ | Friday, January 11, 2013 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 01/13/2013 7:33:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance

Official Washington hailed the deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff as a significant bipartisan accomplishment. However, voters around the country viewed the deal in very partisan terms: Seven out of 10 Democrats approved of it, while seven...of 10 Republicans disapproved.

Just a few days after reaching that agreement, an inside-the-Beltway publication reported another area of bipartisan agreement...while Washington Democrats have always viewed GOP voters as a problem, Washington Republicans "in many a post-election soul-searching session" have come to agree. More precisely, the article said the party's Election 2012 failures have "brought forth one principal conclusion from establishment Republicans: They have a primary problem."

As seen from the halls of power, the problem is that Republican voters think it's OK to replace incumbent senators and congressman who don't represent the views of their constituents. In 2012, for example, Republican voters in Indiana dumped longtime Sen. Richard Lugar in a primary battle.

This infuriated establishment Republicans for two reasons. First, because they liked Lugar and the way he worked. Second, because the replacement candidate was flawed and allowed Democrats to win what should have been a safe Republican seat.

So, according to Politico, the Washington team is gearing up a new effort to protect incumbents and limit the ability of Republican voters to successfully challenge establishment candidates.

That makes sense to those whose sole goal is winning a majority in Congress rather than changing the course of government policy. Seen from the outside, though, it sounds like the professional politicians are saying that the only way to win is to pick more candidates like the insiders. Hearing that message, the reaction of many Republican and conservative voters is, "Why bother?"

That's why more than two-thirds of Republican voters believe GOP officials in Washington have lost touch with the party's base.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2013polls; congress; gop; gope; primaries
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To: Rome2000
We are slaves to the Washingtonians, it's time to recognize the enemy within and come up with creative ways to defeat them.

I agree completely. The 2014 GOP primaries start... RIGHT NOW!

81 posted on 01/13/2013 9:32:35 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: EternalVigilance

He had a good point but I don’t see a DEM-RINO ‘Uniparty’ as the answer.

Unlike so many here...


82 posted on 01/13/2013 9:35:47 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

It’s not as though those are the only choices.


83 posted on 01/13/2013 9:40:26 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: mrsmith

Do you think Adams was speaking in support of some sort of of “DEM-RINO Uniparty”?


84 posted on 01/13/2013 9:42:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: mrsmith
Unlike so many here...

Today, on this thread, you are firing away ramdomly and hitting some conservative FReepers in the process. Please, get a grip.
85 posted on 01/13/2013 9:43:08 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: WomBom
“We have to work within the system and change it.... Starting with the state committee positions, that is the way to get this done.”

I think everyone is aiming at the wrong targets.
Politics are and have been rife with corruption and abuse of power throughout recorded history. “Power corrupts”.

We can argue, complain and scheme to replace a few politicians here and there, but the problem basically boils down to having a representative government.

Conservatives have lost the battle for the culture.
We can argue about the fairness of the battle or debate if the “fat lady” is still making noise, but the political nightmare that exists today is the result of the socialists destruction of the American culture.

The most basic conservative ideals are now “radical right wing” and that claim goes unchallenged time after time.

Nothing is going to change by replacing a few politicians here and there. We need to wage war on the puppet-masters and use their Alinsky tactics against them. Isolate, ridicule and expose.

86 posted on 01/13/2013 9:46:46 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: mrsmith

We were strictly warned, by the way...

“And of fatal tendency...to put, in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; - often a small but artful and enterprising minority...They are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People and to usurp for the themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion...

But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism...Disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an Individual...(who) turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty...The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism...”

— George Washington, Farewell Address


87 posted on 01/13/2013 9:47:16 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: EternalVigilance

the GOP rulers will most likely next try to “purify” their party by taking control of their own primaries. changing the rules and selecting their candidates in secret to shut out conservatives further. at that point conservatives had better be ready to put forth their own candidates from the outside.

first steps: register independent, other, decline to state, etc. and then concentrate at the local and state level on non-partisan offices (sheriff, etc.) just as if you were already a member of the conservative party.

and don’t worry. i’m told by the pundits that the GOP spends their time and money courting “independents” anyway.


88 posted on 01/13/2013 9:49:20 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Salvey; madmominct

Shush...don’t you know? You MUST stay on the GOPe plantation, work within to restore it to its former glory and majesty. Why, anything else is just a vote for O/Dems </s>

Unfortunately, a great many, even hear, don’t see the writing on the wall. The GOP is dead, run by the same who would vocal platitudes to the Dem, reach across the aisle time and time again with nothing in return and then every 2 years, slap you across the face and stick their hand out for more $$$.


89 posted on 01/13/2013 9:51:48 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: McGavin999

Mistakes were made in both recent cycles, and Akin’s decision to remain in the race was one of the most stupid and selfish political acts I’ve seen in a lifetime.

That said, we had very good conservative Senate candidates who lost in absolutely winnable races in ND, Ohio, Montana, Virginia. The point is: conservatives did not deliver. All of these candidates ran under Romney, he was not a drag on their races.

Bottom line: we are not a center-right country anymore. We are a center-left country, whether we like it or not.


90 posted on 01/13/2013 9:52:14 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: EternalVigilance

Conservatives need only 15 to 40 (depending on one’s preferences) more members in the House to take it over using the GOP caucus.
(Hence this RINO desperation that POLITICO is spinning)

No other option is so appealing.

Third-party conservatives are fine too. If we can’t run one, run the other. Heck, in moderate/conservative districts run them against Dems and RINOs both.


91 posted on 01/13/2013 9:52:43 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: thirst4truth; mrsmith
But that [registering as an Independent] is what they want. In most states you cannot vote in the primary unless you are registered R. That is what is bothering them, we are throwing all the good ol boys out in the R primary. The conservative/teaparty are very, very good at local politics we have upset them very much, we need to continue until they are all purged, lets push back not run and hide in another party.

Please think local, your state and your precinct that is how we remake the party and piss off everybody, the D's, the R's, and the press!

We have some awesome candidates after trying this for only 4 years. Lee in Utah, Rubio, Jordan, Cruz, Rand Paul there are many more and perhaps none of them would be in the Senate and congress if it wasn't for conservative's fighting hard, IN THE PRIMARYS, for every one of them.

Well said! Take over the party at the local level, then work your way up to the state party. It happened so fast in Georgia three years ago that the GOPe never saw it coming. We outnumber them, but we've got to organize - and be willing to follow through and show up. And then keep showing up!

The GOPe is declaring war on Tea Party conservatives because it fears us, and wants to purge us from the GOP. Let's go after them!

GOP Senate Target Number One: Saxby Chambliss
GOP House Target Number One: Phil Gingrey

92 posted on 01/13/2013 9:57:31 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: mrsmith

Our party supports candidates based solely on principle, not party labels.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


93 posted on 01/13/2013 9:59:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Madison predicted the DEM-RINO Party during the Convention:

“An increase in the population will of necessity increase the proportion of those who will labor under all the hardships of life and secretly sigh for a more equitable distribution of its blessings. These may in time outnumber those who are placed above the feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former. No agrarian attempts have yet been made in this country, but symptoms of a levelling spirit, as we have understood have sufficiently appeared, in a certain quarter, to give notice of the future danger.”

“Equitable” should be in quotes to best represent his meaning_ ie ‘equitable’ in the selfish view of the indigent.


94 posted on 01/13/2013 10:04:28 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Predicting and supporting are two entirely different things.

The political system envisioned and supported by Washington and Adams was not a party system. Not at all.

It was one of individual self-government, REPRESENTATION, and constant regard for principle, the good of the nation as a whole, and the securing of the Blessings to posterity.

All of which we can easily restore if we simply have the understanding and the commitment to do so.


95 posted on 01/13/2013 10:12:21 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The New Deal was a Bad Deal. So Bad, in fact, that it is costing you your Liberty and your Country.)
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To: mrsmith

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96 posted on 01/13/2013 10:17:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: Always A Marine

Yeah, I like your comment.

Our opponent is cowering clutching at anything for help and everyone here is saying to run away.
I don’t get it.

I am encouraged by this article that we can beat them in the primaries and take over the Party in the House.
It’s never too soon to start at it, and at taking over local GOP organizations.


97 posted on 01/13/2013 10:25:49 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t see where I, or Madison, give you the impression that we support ‘levelling’ or a Party based on it!

Democracy is a dangerously weak leash on the mob. It’s the best flawed man can do sometimes though.


98 posted on 01/13/2013 10:33:01 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith
I am encouraged by this article that we can beat them in the primaries and take over the Party in the House.

I'm scratching my head as to why, since the article says:

the Washington team is gearing up a new effort to protect incumbents and limit the ability of Republican voters to successfully challenge establishment candidates.

99 posted on 01/13/2013 10:33:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: mrsmith
Democracy is a dangerously weak leash on the mob. It’s the best flawed man can do sometimes though.

"Democracy is the most vile form of government... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

-- James Madison


100 posted on 01/13/2013 10:38:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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