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Seth Kantner: Wonderful memories of the amazingly accurate black gun
Anchorage Daily News ^ | January 12, 2013 | Seth Kantner

Posted on 01/13/2013 10:08:22 AM PST by thackney

There's been a lot of talk in the news lately about guns. AR-15's have been getting attention again.

Back when I was a kid, it seemed like most of my dad's guns were old and brown, hand-me-downs from various acquaintances.

My brother Kole and I bought our first center-fire rifle when I was 16. We didn't exactly plan to. We ran our dog team to Ambler just to sell wolverine skins -- and came home with an assault rifle.

I sure wanted my own hunting rifle back then. We'd had plenty of run-ins with moose, and climbed a few trees when bears were around and watched wolverines run out of range. I wasn't happy rarely getting to borrow my dad's old Springfield 30-06 with the steel butt plate and baggy iron sights...

Kole and I had my .22 rifle in our sealskin scabbard on our sled, but I wanted something a little larger. At that time Mark Cleveland had a store down by the river in Ambler. Mark would order you a gun -- if you pointed one out in his big catalog, gave him the money and waited.

My dad suggested a Remington .243, but of course he needed to be the one to order it and he believed "waiting" to be a smart policy. "Let's just wait and see," he said. In other words, some year in the future we might order a gun. At that point Mark would have to get around to mailing in the order and then we'd wait more months for it to arrive -- sort of the great-grandfather to the background check.

Around that time, many local hunters switched to .223 caliber rifles. People liked the small bullets and the semi-autos for chasing caribou and wolves. The wooden-stocked Ruger Mini-14 became popular...

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; hunting
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To: jjotto
Ya know, I hunt with Indians all the time, they even sent letters to our congressmen last week except they can't spell to well but they got the message across. Now those guys will get super upset if they can't get 308 ammo for $18/box and they will know who to blame just like all the other dems that hunt also.

I load 29 grains H322 with 110 TTSX and my chrono says 2800 in my 6.8 stag. Thats plenty to drop almost every caribou or blk bear you'll ever see.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 10:48:41 AM PST by Eska
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To: thackney

“But if it would help a tiny amount toward keeping innocent kids and honest folks safer in our country, I’d give it up.”

Not me, but then I am not a liberal homo like this guy apparently is.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 10:50:03 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Charles Martel
Ah, another “We really don’t NEED this type of firearm” article

It's not called, "The Bill Of Needs" is it?

23 posted on 01/13/2013 10:51:09 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: em2vn

Oh ya, they were surplus Canadian military guns, Vietnam era. They are floating around all over bush Alaska. I luv the flash suppressor but man they must weigh 12 lbs, ones I have shot were quite accurate.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 10:52:29 AM PST by Eska
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To: Graybeard58

I think ol Seth needs to give up his snowmobile too.
After all, he doesn’t really “need it” has he ever heard of snow shoes? Jeeez that’s all you need.
Why go mucking up the planet with a snowmobile Seth?

Think of the Chiruns and the polar bears Seth!
Think of the Chiruns!


25 posted on 01/13/2013 11:01:35 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: thackney
I need an AR-15 with as many rounds as possible. I have my guns to shoot someone, and daylight robbery crews often have 3 or 4 guys. First stop shots with any caliber can't be counted on, and heck, I miss alot.

I'd like to know where these badasses are who would choose to fight for their lives with a snubbie .38 or a SxS 20ga.

I've trained with real-deal doorkickers, guys who've actually shot and killed people who were shooting at them, and they would NEVER choose to handicap themselves in a fight for their lives. As they say, if you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan properly.

We must have some hidden army of superstud metrosexuals, chicks, and politicians who are so sure of their gunfighting prowess with obsolete weaponry that they can mock the thoughts of combat vets.

The first question to any clown who says you don't need Gun X, Y or Z is "when was your last gunfight?" Hell, have you shot a gun ever?

26 posted on 01/13/2013 11:29:58 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: thackney

To the uniformed about the Anchorage Peoples News, the ADN is the Berkely Barb of Alaska. Everything in that paper is leftist agenda driven. I subscribed to it one time and dropped it as soon as I could. The leftist slime from San Francisco has moved steadily north up the coast to Portland, Seattle, and has made its terminal landfall at Anchorage.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 11:32:03 AM PST by strongbow
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To: GBA
An enjoyable read and trip back in time, at least it was until I got to the last couple of paragraphs. At that point, his logic lost me.

Yes, he seemed to defeat any argument he may been trying to make against owning them.

28 posted on 01/13/2013 11:39:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Windflier
it would help a tiny amount toward keeping innocent kids and honest folks safer in our country

Parsing the author's language - yep. It would help a tiny bit. A very tiny bit. An unmeasurable tiny bit. Until the next incident caused them to want to ban another wave of firearms.

29 posted on 01/13/2013 11:41:00 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Eska
I don't remember how to post picts or I would post some fresh meat picts with ARs.

Now you need to figure that out again. Go back to the HTML sandbox or ask some questions. I've enjoyed your pictures here for years and don't want to see them end.

30 posted on 01/13/2013 11:41:31 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Sherman Logan
Caribou get up to 600/700 lbs.

That would be an extremely large Caribou.

Weights of adult bulls average 350 – 400 lbs (159 – 182 kg). Mature females average 175 – 225 lbs (80 – 120 kg). The dressed weight of a 400-lb (181-kg) caribou is about 240 (109 kg) lbs. This equates to about 100 lbs (45 kg) of meat.

Caribou Hunting in Alaska
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=caribouhunting.main

It does seem rather light for the bear. At least it is less than I want to carry for black bear.

31 posted on 01/13/2013 11:48:58 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

A .45 ACP does a wonderful job of discouraging folks from entering homes where they don't belong. The added bonus is that it takes the same magazines as a 1911A1 pistol.

32 posted on 01/13/2013 11:54:37 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Sherman Logan

Go for the head shot.Effective and doesn’t ruin any meat.


33 posted on 01/13/2013 12:11:40 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: thackney

That moron lost me when he called a magazine a clip. I hope he stays where ever Ambler is.


34 posted on 01/13/2013 12:12:50 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: thackney

A friend who’s an Alaska guide uses .338 Win mag or .375 H&H for bear protection. I believe there is a minimum round for licensed guides.

Like dealing with a bad guy, ANY gun is better than none.


35 posted on 01/13/2013 12:13:08 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: thackney

That moron lost me when he called a magazine a clip. I hope he stays where ever Ambler is.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 12:13:27 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: thackney
"But if it would help a tiny amount toward keeping innocent kids and honest folks safer in our country, I’d give it up."

And logically, if the author wasn't really just a shill for gun grabbing leftists, he'd be determined to keep his weapons if "it would help a tiny amount toward keeping innocent kids and honest folks safer in our country." And that is obviously the case. If he "gives up" his rifle he'll never have it if he needs to step up and save his neighbors, or some little kid from a pack of wolves, or a rioting mob, or an evil person bent on murder, or a terrorist attack, or even a tyrannical government. Any one of those reasons is larger than a "tiny bit."

Had citizens around the world been as armed as the citizens of the USA are armed today in the last century, tens of millions of people could have been saved from tyranny and execution. And if by dumb luck the author of the article had been standing in the school parking lot in Newton Connecticut with his "black rifle" in the trunk of his car, he could well have saved a lot of "innocent kids and honest folks."

37 posted on 01/13/2013 12:45:25 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Eska; em2vn

>>Oh ya, they were surplus Canadian military guns, Vietnam era.

Inch pattern FALs in 7.62x51?


38 posted on 01/13/2013 1:00:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Eska
"I don't remember how to post picts or I would post some fresh meat picts with ARs."

Here are the instructions, only wordwise, because I don't remember the HTML escape codes that allow showing HTML code.

Left angle bracket (<), followed by "img" (without the quotes), then a space, then "src" (without the quotes), then an "=" sign (just the sign, without the quotes), then a double quotation mark (one of these "), then the URL (Internet address--you know, the http://address.com/folder/andsoforth/image.jpg), followed by a closing double quotation mark, followed by a right angle bracket (>), then a left angle braket (<), then a foreslash (/), then the letter, "a" (without the quotes), concluded by a right angle bracket (>).

The only space between all of that will be the space between "img" and "src." The rest--no spaces.

Make sure that the URL is the URL to the photo (ends with image file extension, like ".jpg" ".png" "gif" or whatever) and that it's a file type that will show on a web page (try by posting with "Preview" here).

If you want line breaks (vertical spaces) between your posted image and a comment of your own, put "br" (without the quote) surrounded by angle brackets for each space.

Oh...and the image has to be already posted on another web page somewhere (called "hotlinking" and done as already described above). FR doesn't allow posted images only to here.


39 posted on 01/13/2013 4:02:00 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Eska

the ol FN Fal, 7.62mm. We used that before we got the c-7. C-7 is basically an m-16 with modded bolt and semi or full auto fire.


40 posted on 01/13/2013 6:32:25 PM PST by Bulwyf
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