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Obama: Gun Lobby "Ginning Up Fear" That Government Will Take Away All Your Guns
Real Clear Politics ^ | 1/14/13 | staff

Posted on 01/14/2013 12:33:07 PM PST by Nachum

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I think, for example, how we are gathering data, for example, on guns that fall into the hands of criminals and how we track that more effectively -- there may be some steps that we can take administratively, as opposed -- through legislation.

As far as people lining up and purchasing more guns, you know, I think that we’ve seen for some time now that those who oppose any common-sense gun control or gun safety measures have a pretty effective way of ginning up fear on the part of gun owners that somehow the federal government’s about to take all your guns away. And you know, that -- there’s probably an economic element to that. It obviously is good for business.

But I think that, you know, those of us who look at this problem have repeatedly said that responsible gun owners, people who have a gun for protection, for hunting, for sportsmanship -- they don’t have anything to worry about. The issue here is not whether or not we believe in the Second Amendment.

The issue is, are there some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in Newtown can’t walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children in a -- in a shockingly rapid fashion? And surely we can do something about that.

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1 posted on 01/14/2013 12:33:11 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I’m sure that “ginning up” is probably some form of racist “dog whistle”, right?


2 posted on 01/14/2013 12:35:55 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 01/14/2013 12:36:07 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Isn’t Obama on record saying private citizens should not own guns?

Since when is the truth ‘ginning up fear’?

Just like his daddy, a liar.


4 posted on 01/14/2013 12:36:20 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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5 posted on 01/14/2013 12:37:10 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
The Gun Lobby is "Ginning Up Fear"?

Nah. 0bama, you built that all on your own:

... they get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them ...

6 posted on 01/14/2013 12:41:17 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Nachum

“some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in Newtown can’t walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children in a — in a shockingly rapid fashion?” So what is he saying that if a psycho killed a large number of children in a slow methodical fashion it would be OK? How can anyone believe a word this LIAR says? Is there a promise he has kept, other than to change America. That is to change America into his version of socialism with he and his buddies as the haves and the rest of as the have nots.


7 posted on 01/14/2013 12:41:28 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obama-people-shouldnt-be-allowed-to-own-guns/


8 posted on 01/14/2013 12:41:28 PM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Nachum

Meanwhile, in related news...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/14/doj-shuts-down-national-drug-intelligence-center-no-2012-reports-released-video/


9 posted on 01/14/2013 12:43:19 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Stop with the negative waves, Moriarity.)
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To: Nachum

You are not taking my gun Bronco. Nuff said.


10 posted on 01/14/2013 12:47:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: kevkrom
I’m sure that “ginning up” is probably some form of racist “dog whistle”, right?

Ginning up...

Cotton gin...

Picking cotton...

Cotton picked by Slaves...

RACIST!!

11 posted on 01/14/2013 12:47:51 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: kevkrom

“Ginning up”, is that some type of racist statement against the Irish!

Yeah, in 2008 when Obama was elected it was the NRA that prompted the run on guns. In 2012 upon reelection it was, again, the NRA that prompted the run on guns. After Sandy Hook and Obama stating that he was going to attempt to destroy the 2nd Amendment, it was the NRA that prompted the CRUSH on gun sales.

Anyone see a pattern here?


12 posted on 01/14/2013 12:48:56 PM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: Nachum

He keeps hitting those buzz words...”common sense” and “reasonable” with regard to gun controls. The schmedia keeps repeating it, and the meme becomes embedded in the livvies who listen at all. Those that don’t will get it from those slightly more dialed in livvies in the form of “lets be reasonable” arguments.

How does one argue truth with those who wouldn’t recognize truth if it hit them in the face?


13 posted on 01/14/2013 12:50:38 PM PST by petro45acp (More sheepdogs please...)
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To: MurrietaMadman

Barry, the Soros talking puppet speaks...........

http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2013/01/14/obama-says-he-has-authority-to-go-it-alone-on-gun-control/?subscriber=1

In the press conference, Obama said some gun control measures “I can accomplish through executive action.”

What’s so pathetic is the way Obama tries to delegitimize the real concerns people, including gun owners, have regarding the direction of the country. To say that the rise of attendance at gun shows and the increase in the purchase of guns is due to “ginned up” fears is completely irresponsible and wrong.

People ARE concerned. And the NRA doesn’t have to say a word. Any time a liberal politician speaks about guns, gun sales go up. Barack Obama should be asked about that. Instead he’s given a free pass to blast gun-rights advocates while dismissing people’s concerns with partisan jabs.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 12:51:55 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Nachum
This is exactly the stunt he's pulled repeatedly. He proposes to take some controversial action, gets called on it, claims people are overreacting, then turns around a few days/week later and takes the action he proposed in the first place. Anybody who falls for this song and dance is just naive.
15 posted on 01/14/2013 12:51:55 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Nachum
I think that we’ve seen for some time now that those who oppose any common-sense gun control or gun safety measures have a pretty effective way of ginning up fear on the part of gun owners that somehow the federal government’s about to take all your guns away.

Alinskyism presented perfectly by the teacher himself.

16 posted on 01/14/2013 12:52:40 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Nachum

In one breath he’s talking about how we’re unjustly afraid of the government taking our guns, and in the next he’s talking about by-passing Congress and issuing EOs to do “something” to limit “assault weapons.”

And the press/media don’t call him on that rank hypocrisy.

FUBO, and MOLON LABE!


17 posted on 01/14/2013 12:53:10 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Nachum

Then quit acting like a power-mad dictator. Obamas actions are the precise cause of peoples fear of the government. Obama, go F yourself you power mad jerk,, act like an American for once in your dope smoking life.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 12:54:25 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Nachum

Then quit acting like a power-mad dictator. Obamas actions are the precise cause of peoples fear of the government. Obama, go F yourself you power mad jerk,, act like an American for once in your dope smoking life.


19 posted on 01/14/2013 12:54:41 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Nachum

“...how you track?”

You asshat!

You can’t even track criminals who you armed through Fast and Furious and you want to criminalize law abiding Americans?

Nohhhhhh .....You infringing on that which cannot be infringed upon makes you the criminal and soon to be Tyrant.


20 posted on 01/14/2013 12:54:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kevkrom

The only fear being “ginned up” here is amongst Democrats who plan to stand for re-election in 2014...


21 posted on 01/14/2013 12:55:01 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum
... ginning up fear on the part of gun owners that somehow the federal government’s about to take all your guns away.

See what he did there? I saw.

22 posted on 01/14/2013 12:58:25 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Nachum

“those who oppose any common-sense gun control or gun safety measures have a pretty effective way of ginning up fear on the part of gun owners that somehow the federal government’s about to take all your guns away.”

In other words, we are only planning to take some of your guns away, you know just a few this month, then a few more next month and a few more the next month and on and on, till eventually we have taken them all away. But don’t worry, it isn’t that we are about to take them all away immediately.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 1:00:04 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Nachum
Basically what this piece of shit is saying is that they only want to take away the guns that they deem are “assault weapons”, aka military facsimiles, and large capacity magazines, but you can keep your gun for “protection” or “hunting”, just not what would be effective in fighting a tyrannical government.

Never forget, that is what this is all about, removing effective weapons from the hands of citizens.

If these weapons are good enough for law enforcement, they are absolutely good enough for civilians. In no way should law enforcement agencies have “superior firepower” over law abiding civilians, and although it's already a fact that they do, that fact should be reversed, IMO. Criminals will always have access to weapons that equal or surpass those in the hands of our government, and to deny the same for our civilians is Unconstitutional, IMO.

Since the courts will likely rule against us, we either prepare for our role as slaves to the government or prepare to exercise our second amendment rights, RIGHT NOW, to put an end to this slow boiling that our so-called representatives are putting us through.

24 posted on 01/14/2013 1:00:20 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yep


25 posted on 01/14/2013 1:00:30 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Nachum
Well, I think, for example, how we are gathering data, for example, on guns that fall into the hands of criminals and how we track that more effectively

First, find the ones that YOU gave to Mexican drug cartels for use in crime, then we can think about talking about talking.
26 posted on 01/14/2013 1:01:01 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: CSM
In other words, we are only planning to take some of your guns away, you know just a few this month, then a few more next month and a few more the next month and on and on, till eventually we have taken them all away. But don’t worry, it isn’t that we are about to take them all away immediately.

The honest thing to do is for them to just state they are taking away the second amendment. But libs have never prided themselves on their honesty. Just the opposite, in fact.
27 posted on 01/14/2013 1:03:46 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Nachum

Do you reckon Obama might be moving in the direction of a “Final Solution” for all us “Bitter Clingers”?


28 posted on 01/14/2013 1:05:18 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Nachum

When government agents can no longer burst into my home and gun down my family in a shockingly rapid fashion, only then will I consider any limitations or restrictions.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 1:05:55 PM PST by Jim Hill
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To: Nachum

When government agents can no longer burst into my home and gun down my family in a shockingly rapid fashion, only then will I consider any limitations or restrictions.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 1:06:21 PM PST by Jim Hill
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To: Nachum
“Obama: Gun Lobby “Ginning Up Fear” That Government Will Take Away All Your Guns”

Guess what O’a$$hole, you aren't going to take ANY of mine!!

31 posted on 01/14/2013 1:12:34 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Nachum

No, Obama and his commie buddies are ginning up the fear. The gun industry is just profiting from the fear Obama has created.


32 posted on 01/14/2013 1:14:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Nachum

How dare you accuse me of taking your guns as I am preparing to take your guns! What a Mary.


33 posted on 01/14/2013 1:18:34 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Nachum

“But I think that, you know, those of us who look at this problem have repeatedly said that responsible gun owners, people who have a gun for protection, for hunting, for sportsmanship — they don’t have anything to worry about. The issue here is not whether or not we believe in the Second Amendment.”

Mr. President, if responsible gun owners do not have anything to worry about then tell me sir, why are we to be punished for cowardly acts of a few? So disingenuous....

By the way, for the record, I have no firearms.

Can’t afford them now.


34 posted on 01/14/2013 1:21:20 PM PST by bbernard
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To: Cyber Liberty

We won’t take ALL of your guns. Just the ones that equalize you against us.....

That’s what he really means.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 1:23:33 PM PST by bbernard
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To: Nachum
Gun Lobby "Ginning Up Fear" That Government Will Take Away All Your Guns...

Which is silly, of course. 0bama's merry little band only wants to take away half, register the rest for future confiscation, and tax ammunition into oblivion. But take away all the guns? Not at all, little man, now just go back to sleep.

You can always tell when they're lying when they start parsing this stuff so carefully. Or when they're moving their lips. Same thing.

36 posted on 01/14/2013 1:25:58 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Nachum

Emanuel gives insight to gun control in D.C., makes plans for Chicago

VIDEO:

Read more: http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/20579657/emanuel-biden-meet-with-leaders-to-discuss-gun-control-measures#ixzz2HzFfJKAU


37 posted on 01/14/2013 1:28:37 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: dagogo redux
Do you reckon Obama might be moving in the direction of a “Final Solution” for all us “Bitter Clingers”?

Bill Ayers and the boys chatted pretty openly about that back in their bomb-throwing days.


38 posted on 01/14/2013 1:30:47 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum
"...make sure that somebody like the individual in Newtown can’t walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children..."

Just who are the anti-Second-Amendment folks after?


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39 posted on 01/14/2013 1:31:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: bbernard

You saw what he did there, too. That weasel.


40 posted on 01/14/2013 1:32:41 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: NKP_Vet

You got that right. Everyone responding to this thread knows what he’s about.

He’s 24 hours a transparent liar with a very large support staff.

And at the risk of ginning up more fear, I say we have to increase the pressure until even soros feels the heat.


41 posted on 01/14/2013 1:42:40 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Stop with the negative waves, Moriarity.)
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To: Old Sarge

Eli Whitney once said, “Get your cotton-picking hands off my gin!”

;^)


42 posted on 01/14/2013 1:52:01 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Nachum
With all this hysteria of gun control let's put things into perspective:

1. Current U.S. population is about 313 million.
2. Guns purchased since the November 2008 election — 67 million. Current estimates are 300+ million firearms in the hands of Americans that increase by several million per month.
3. Guns purchased in November 2012 — 2 million. Guns purchased in December 2012 — 2.7 million.
4. Active duty Chinese PLA — approx. 2.23 million; active duty Indian Army — approx. 1.13 million = approx. 2.4 million.
5. In the last two months, Americans have purchased enough new guns to completely reequip the active forces of the Chinese PLA and Indian Army plus have 300,000 guns left over.

So, now we have prominent politicians talking about making whole classes of guns illegal and subject to confiscation by force. What are these lunatics thinking? Hint: Civil War 2.

43 posted on 01/14/2013 2:01:45 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Nachum
I think that we’ve seen for some time now that those who oppose any common-sense gun control or gun safety measures…

Mr. President, before we continue, would you please, in concrete, specific terms, define “common-sense”.

44 posted on 01/14/2013 2:03:16 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Nachum

“Ginning up?” Is that like &issing on your leg and calling it rain?


45 posted on 01/14/2013 2:03:16 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

“But I think that, you know, those of us who look at this problem have repeatedly said that responsible gun owners, people who have a gun for protection, for hunting, for sportsmanship — they don’t have anything to worry about.”

*Scoffs*

I seem to recall him making a similar promise with healthcare. Now, how did that work out again?

Folks, when politicians make a promise, always remember this: The Enabling Act was only supposed to last four years and American boys weren’t going to be sent half way across the world to do what Asian boys ought to have been doing themselves.


46 posted on 01/14/2013 2:11:47 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Nachum

“common-sense gun control” in plain English is “tyrant’s ploy”


47 posted on 01/14/2013 2:18:25 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: RWB Patriot

The Second Amendment is not about sportsmanship, hunting, or even personal protection. It is about ensuring the people’s ability to utterly destroy the federal government should it turn tyrannical. It is a free people’s last resort. More 0bama double talk.


48 posted on 01/14/2013 2:18:53 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Nachum

The gun lobby must have taken this quote the wrong way,

“What you can count on is that the things that I’ve said in the past – the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them, an assault weapons ban that’s meaningful – those are things I continue to believe make sense,”


49 posted on 01/14/2013 2:27:18 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Nachum

Common sense? Still waiting for them to charge the Bimbo in NY with accessory to murder and attempted murder for buying the guns for the nut case who shot the firemen. When was the last time that you have heard of the Justice Dept. or States Attorneys pressing the current mandatory charges and sentences for gun possession or guns used in commission of a crime for criminals .... none, they drop the charges or make the sentence concurrent with other charges.


50 posted on 01/14/2013 3:00:10 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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