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Levin: If Obama sidesteps Congress on debt ceiling, ‘no choice’ but impeachment
The Daily Caller ^ | January 14, 213 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 01/14/2013 7:59:53 PM PST by Kaslin

On his Monday radio show, conservative talker Mark Levin said that if President Barack Obama sidesteps Congress on the debt ceiling fight and attacks the Congress’ constitutionally enumerated “core power” – that is control over spending and taxing — through executive action, Congress will have “no choice” but impeachment.

Levin explained that if unilateral action by the White House — which White House spokesman Jay Carney ruled out — were to happen, it would infringe on Congress’ “core power” and should be punished with impeachment.

“Now, if Obama unilaterally acts — and I think there’s a fan-dance going on here where his spokes-idiot [Jay] Carney is out there saying, ‘No, we’ve decided we’re not going to do this’ — if Obama, though, plays the role of Hamlet and in the end says ‘I have no choice: The Republicans are going to destroy our economy, our debt rating, all this that and the other, therefore I must unilaterally act,’ he should be impeached,” Levin declared. “Because that means Congress’ core power — in addition to declaring war — Congress’ core power, that is control over spending and taxing, will have been seized by the president of the United States in one executive order.”

“No Congress would tolerate this from any president,” Levin continued. “I don’t care if the president was Abraham Lincoln. This Congress would not have tolerated it from Richard Nixon. No Congress can tolerate such a complete and brazen frontal assault on its enumerated power. No Congress. No twisting of the language in the 14th Amendment or any way else, because we will cease to be a federal government of three coequal branches. We will cease to be that.”

And that, Levin said, would throw the entire American constitutional system of government out of order.

“And what are we going to do, ladies and gentlemen?” he said. “Throw our entire system away? Our entire Constitution away? Our entire financial system away for Obama? Why?”

“So, if a president commits a high crime and misdemeanor, which in this case is a brazen frontal attack on the Constitution itself in a way that no president has ever attacked the Constitution — ceasing power unilaterally from the Congress — then we have no choice, do we?” Levin added. “Do we, than to remove him from office? What do you think about that one, Colin Powell?”

Earlier in the day, Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman made headlines for threatening that he would file articles of impeachment against Obama if the president institutes gun control measures with an executive order.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arrest; fraud; impeachment; impeachobama; ineligiblepresident; levinimpeach; levinrant; marklevin
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1 posted on 01/14/2013 8:00:03 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Bless you, Levin for saying it, but that doesn’t mean that there is one single testicle that the congress-critters share among themselves.


2 posted on 01/14/2013 8:06:57 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like a showdown to me ... about time.


3 posted on 01/14/2013 8:10:21 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Thorliveshere

The congress-critters are just as guilty as barry. He is right to the extent that they are the ones who authorized the spending.


4 posted on 01/14/2013 8:10:51 PM PST by DManA
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To: Kaslin

I always smile listening to Levin. He’s like Allen West. Doesn’t shy away from telling it like it is. Especially enjoyed the “How would you like that, Colin Powell?”
It’s just too bad we don’t have the votes for impeachment.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 8:11:48 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Kaslin

I wish with all my heart that any number of Republicans wlak out or don’t show up for wither the coronation or the SOTU. And if asked why...they should say they are busy, drafting Articles of Impeachment.

Sleep tight.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 8:12:12 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Kaslin

They have to do it. If 0bama bypasses congress, the markets will punish the dollar because the treasuries issued henceforth will be of dubious value. No one wants to buy a bond that is at risk of being declared illegally issued by the courts. Automatic downgrade with this next fight.


7 posted on 01/14/2013 8:12:28 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; an EMP confined to DC would be much appreciated)
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To: Kaslin
Congress will have “no choice” but impeachment.

Fat chance. The House is made up of a bunch of wimps and they are just as bad as King Obama. I have no faith in our Federal Government and America will become a dictatorship.

8 posted on 01/14/2013 8:15:10 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Thorliveshere

Bless you, Steve Stockman, for speaking and being in a position to swing the sword and not just polish the blade with the tongue. Now, the problem is waiting on the dirty deed to be done before having a case, on which to proceed.


9 posted on 01/14/2013 8:20:33 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Kaslin

????

No choice?? Has he talked to Reid about that?

No worries,
O will get the House to extend the debt limit. He already said he wont do it by himself, he would rather humiliate them by making them do it.
Bohner probably has already decided to abandon the debt limit approach.

Levin doesn’t know this?


10 posted on 01/14/2013 8:22:02 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Kaslin

Obama could slit John Boehner’s throat at a live press conference and the media would marvel at his technique.

He can do anything. ANYTHING. And no one will try to stop him.

And I think he realizes it.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 8:23:03 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Kaslin; holdonnow

Hold on Now!!!


12 posted on 01/14/2013 8:25:52 PM PST by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: DManA

They authorized spending, yes, but they also set a limit to borrowing. Which controls? The debt ceiling, because you can’t spend money without it. Obama doesn’t get to choose willy-nilly, anyway, even when Congress contradicts itself.


13 posted on 01/14/2013 8:35:54 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

I’m just saying Congress cannot have it both ways.

We have this attitude that the Executive is the root of all evil. No. It’s the Congress.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 8:38:40 PM PST by DManA
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To: grumpygresh

Obama will win this battle and the House Eunuchs will also get the blame for economic collapse and financial ruin plus 25% unemployment.

Count on it


15 posted on 01/14/2013 8:39:06 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: atc23

“Obama will win this battle and the House Eunuchs will also get the blame “

So be it. If the eunuchs go along with the Kenyan, they will lose their base AND get the blame.

This whole thing needs to come to a head; sooner than later.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 8:48:24 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; an EMP confined to DC would be much appreciated)
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To: Kaslin
Levin is right of course.

But is not the second amendment just as much a "core power" of the people?

The second amendment is a close to an absolute unrestricted right as could be put in writing.

There is no wiggle room here. Obama took a very clear oath when he was sworn in. If he attempts to issue an executive order which infringes on ANY element of the right of the people to bear arms he MUST BE IMPEACHED.

If Obama can legally issue executive orders mandating any form of gun control then could he not issue an executive order banning conservative talk radio? How about just issue an executive order which abolishes the NRA. Then issue an executive order which bans Fox News, after all they are clearly not protected by freedom of speech or freedom of the press.

Gun control executive order = MANDATORY IMPEACHMENT

17 posted on 01/14/2013 8:48:57 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Kaslin

If the Congress does nothing, then the effect is similar to a parliamentary “no confidence vote” (not only against the Executive branch, but the Legislative as well). Congress, despite recent history of punting the ball, has always had the power of the purse. Obama gets his equivalent of the “Enabling Act”, and you students of history can take whatever you can from it.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 9:07:06 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin
“No Congress would tolerate this from any president,” Levin continued. “I don’t care if the president was Abraham Lincoln. This Congress would not have tolerated it from Richard Nixon. No Congress can tolerate such a complete and brazen frontal assault on its enumerated power. No Congress.

Yeah, but this one will . . .

19 posted on 01/14/2013 9:09:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Viennacon
It’s just too bad we don’t have the votes for impeachment.

The votes for impeachment are there, if republicans have the stones, which is highly doubtful. However, there'd be well less than 50 votes to convict as squishies like Mcconnell, Graham, etc would defect to join the dems in a split second.

20 posted on 01/14/2013 9:15:19 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: DManA

We do have that attitude, and it is deleterious. For instance fellow Freepers often make me cringe with embarrassment when they rant about Obama the evil, Marxist, Kenyan, Muslim, usurper. Come on, he’s just one guy. It’s not even accurate to say he forms his own policy, let alone his party’s or the leftists’ as a whole. Certainly he’s not responsible fir the landslide into the pit of statism iver the last 80, 100, or 150 years. And Al Gore or John Edwards might’ve been worse.

That being said, there are things you just can’t do. Congress shouldn’t twist itself into a prezel, but if they do the president can’t step up like the only adult in the room and decide for them.


21 posted on 01/14/2013 9:15:48 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: atc23
Well. it's long overdue time to get this straightened out once and for all. Go down with the principled discipline of less spending. For once in their political career, show the patriotism to saving the country over saving a career.
22 posted on 01/14/2013 9:16:56 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Founding Father

so it would be a pointless gesture in the end.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 9:19:18 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: grumpygresh

This whole thing needs to come to a head; sooner than later.

It does and impeaching Obama wouldn’t solve much.We’d just end up with another turd in the Whitehouse.


24 posted on 01/14/2013 9:21:51 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Tublecane
What is wrong with you. Obama is destructive. Go to some other place and defend him. You cannot have it both ways.
Obama should be impeached as Levin commented. Obama is a Marxist.
25 posted on 01/14/2013 9:22:46 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: DManA
I’m just saying Congress cannot have it both ways.

If and when the Senate allows a budget to be passed then you would be correct.

As well, a budget passed by leftists before they were kicked out in 2010 is still being used as the basis for government spending today. The new House has yet to even have the chance to cut spending.

With no budget appropriations passed the government has been operating on continuing resolutions that maintain spending that actually has increases built into it.

Right now the House can do nothing to cut and control spending except NOT extend the debt ceiling -every other action requires Senate cooperation and the leftist controlled Senate does not want to cut spending...

26 posted on 01/14/2013 9:24:32 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Tublecane

Obama is evil personified. Obama is a clear and present danger to the Republic.


27 posted on 01/14/2013 9:26:49 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

Here is the structural problem - Federal, state local. Our representatives crap on us. When we realize we’ve been crapped the people who did the crapping have move on.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 9:36:05 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

“He is right to say that they are the ones who authorized the spending.”

By the way, in order for a bill to become law the president has to sign it. Or Congress has to override h’s veto, but nevermind, because Obama did sign these laws. They are as much his as Congress’.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 9:51:08 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: DBeers

Obama is not evil personified. Why would you even say that? What are you going to call the next Dem president? More evil personified? He’s just one guy. The problem is leftism, socialism, libism, progressivism, or whatever you call it. Obama has it more than some, but even compared to Pubs it’s only a matter of degree.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 9:54:21 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Christie at the beach

Am I defending him? From overzealous criticism, yes, but only so as we don’t shoot our wad against the wrong target. It does no good to pretend like Obama is the problem when it’s leftism, not him. He’s just a figurehead.


31 posted on 01/14/2013 9:57:15 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Kaslin

‘No choice’ Eh? Really? What abotu when he sidesteps the constitution and foists an extremist liberal, unconstitutional healthcare system on Americans agaisnt their will? Will he ‘have to be impeached’ for that too? What abotu when he attacks the Christian faith, and bans them from freely excersizing hteir right to public display?

Sorry Marc- I liek you- you’re a strogn speaker, but words mean nothign when it coems to democrats who do whatever the hell they want with NO reprecussions from the right whatsoever- Who’s goign to impeach him?


32 posted on 01/14/2013 10:59:45 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Kaslin
And after NOTHING happens to challenge or impeach Obama we can then hear Mr. Levin say, "I can't believe they're letting him get away with this. What is wrong with America?" (then into the next commercial break)

"If things don't change they'll stay the same."

33 posted on 01/14/2013 11:08:22 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Kaslin
Before impeachment, charge and try him under Title 31 of the United States Code (31 U.S.C. §§ 1341, 1342, 1349, and 1350).

§1341 states:

1) An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government may not- (A) make or authorize an expenditure or obligation exceeding an amount available in an appropriation or fund for the expenditure or obligation;

§1349 states:

"An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government violating section 1341(a) or 1342 of this title shall be subject to appropriate administrative discipline including, when circumstances warrant, suspension from duty without pay or removal from office."

§1350 states:

"An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government knowingly and willfully violating section 1341(a) or 1342 of this title shall be fined not more than $5,000, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both."

Once you have a conviction, then you have a proven felony, a "high crime." Impeachment on interpretive grounds alone is just blowing smoke.

34 posted on 01/15/2013 12:32:55 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Tublecane

I really do think Obama is evil and I am not saying that lightly. I really do beleive it there is something about
him that just doesnt sit right with me.


35 posted on 01/15/2013 12:49:39 AM PST by funfan
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To: Kaslin

He’s right but the spineless castrati in the congress will do nothing..


36 posted on 01/15/2013 1:15:09 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: RitchieAprile
We can't waste too much time fighting within the broken system. It's all leading to some sort of conflict outside of that system. We should prepare the best we can, but we don't have an unlimited amount of time. We can't allow the tyrants to consolidate power, and weaken us with everything possible short of confiscation before acting either.

Supporting organizations such as the OathKeepers that only accept former and active duty military and law enforcement members is something everyone should be looking into. They pledge to disobey 10 orders that are aimed at other American citizens and are unconstitutional. Orders that go against their constitutional oaths. You can donate and help with the outreach campaigns without having to be former or active military or law enforcement. The goal is to reach those who will have to enforce a tyrannical government. Now they are raising money to expand a billboard campaign placing them outside of military bases.

Groups like this need to reach the masses, and everyone can help achieve that to some degree.

www.OathKeepers.org

37 posted on 01/15/2013 1:45:58 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: precisionshootist
Gun control executive order = MANDATORY IMPEACHMENT

And that's Obama's "happy" outcome.

38 posted on 01/15/2013 2:37:00 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Well, we can all THINK it, doesn’t mean the Ken doll anatomy congress will actually do it. Heck, I don’t think they manage to THINK it!


39 posted on 01/15/2013 3:57:32 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Exactly. They proved this when they allowed Obama to take our nation to war on his own. Couple of BAAAHHHHH’s from the congressional sheep, but then back to grazing.


40 posted on 01/15/2013 4:00:34 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DManA

No they aren’t. The Stimulus bills passed with NO Republican votes.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 4:04:22 AM PST by Bill S
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To: Kaslin

The President can only do what the House of Reps finances him to do...
Whatever Obama has done the House underwrote and financed..

Did I say the Republican controlled House?..
Much delusion is going on.. and most of it are republicans..
Obama can spend nothing he is NOT given to spend..
You know............ by the House of Representatives..

If you are a republican you should be ashamed of yourself..
YOU ELECTED THEM..


Note: the saving grace is many republicans are no longer republicans.. Nov. 6th got many peoples attention.. The GOP is on life support.. may very well die except for a few RINOs.. and other enablers.. The delusion is great..


42 posted on 01/15/2013 4:04:48 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: funfan

My (at the time) 8 year old said it best when seeing him talk. “When he smiles, my stomach hurts.”


43 posted on 01/15/2013 4:06:06 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: hosepipe
You are correct, but if he bypasses Congress and uses E O to get what he wants, then he must be impeached. He is not a king
44 posted on 01/15/2013 4:10:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
I understand Levin is livid, but talk of impeachment is a waste of time; There are not enough votes in Congress to impeach, nor are there enough votes in the Senate to convict.

We might as well waste time on the possibility of pigs with wings.

As of today, there is only ONE way to stop Obama: DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. Any other option will fail, so wasting time talking about them is to avoid talking about the real solution.

45 posted on 01/15/2013 4:20:38 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

I would not be so sure if there aren’t enough votes in the House to impeach that arrogant pos, however there are not enough votes in the Senate to remove him, thanks to those who stayed home on November 6 instead of making sure we get the Senate back. We had an excellent chance to do so


46 posted on 01/15/2013 4:38:58 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
because we will cease to be a federal government of three coequal branches

Very true! At this point the coup will be complete - it is obvious he already owns the Supreme Court.

As with BJ Clinton, the House can impeach. The Senate will, of course, not convict but just hamstringing President Omega is of considerable value.

47 posted on 01/15/2013 5:31:07 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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To: Kaslin
yep, impeachment would have to occur if zer0 steps away from the Constitution. yep, have little faith the republicans would be bold enough to uphold the Constitution. Upholding the Constitution has not been a priority with any of the people elected or appointed in D.C., instead continuing an illusion or establishing a new illusion to replace a worn out illusion or if that does not work find a new illusion to create has been the road taken. The road taken after the 1980s has led to where we are with the current illusion. The time to have righted the ship was during the 1980s. The American people and President Reagan were given a promise, and then Congress (I hate capitalization of that word for have no respect for any of them in congress) lied, and created an illusion. Illusions eventually end. This illusion will end too.

A small repeated and ongoing rant ... filled with no illusions. A prayer my rant was not offensive. I meant no offense to you, Kaslin.

48 posted on 01/15/2013 5:31:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Bless you, Levin for saying it, but that doesn’t mean that there is one single testicle that the congress-critters share among themselves.


levin is all talk and a blowhard..He huff’s and puff’s about being a “Constitutional Scholar” but nary a peep from him about the Eligibility hub-bub. Pelosi has a bigger sack than levin..


49 posted on 01/15/2013 5:40:49 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: DBeers
Thank you!

I cannot believe that the House Republicans aren't chanting this every time they get in front of a camera.

The only possible explanation is that they are benefiting in their local districts.

Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and now President Omega have perpetrated a coup on the government and if the House cannot control the debt limit the coup becomes complete.

All Hail Emperor Obama, our Lord and Savior. (spit)

50 posted on 01/15/2013 5:42:43 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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