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To: Lancey Howard
RE :”<8i>Anyway, the rats got their incumbent re-elected, but the Republicans WON RE-ELECTION to control the House

They lost the WH and the Senate again because those are state by state contests not controlled by a party or state governments.
The House is different because those are won by districts created by governors and with Republicans taking many of the state houses they were designed so that the GOP will keep a thin Majority in the House regardless of national politics and how they go.

Obama wins these fights simply because he picks his battles such that they have public support and as I point out regularly he crafts his talking points based on polls.

The GOP??? They appear clueless and have no idea what's going on.

Before the election many (Rush) assured us that O was toast and R would win in a landslide.
After the election that flipped 180 degrees but not the advice, ‘we can't win so lets go for broke’. The GOP on the tax extension was the worst example of going for suicide.

Look at 2009 and 2010, it was temporally flipped against Dems so even the most liberal NE RINOs voted against O’s bills. If voters were supporting the GOP on these fights then Dems would be caving again as then.

Dems have that right now, at least with these budget fights, so Rs just play these games and deteriorate. Do they even want to win ? To make O back down? I have my doubts now? Maybe they just love whining about the MSM and moochers and how its hopeless.

31 posted on 01/16/2013 5:00:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Lancey Howard
In the case of the POTUS O beat Romney because he turned out the vote in swing states, Hispanics, etc, Dems got them out in the key states

More specifically Dems were turned out to vote more than Rs in swing states. But did Rs help that themselves? Did they help turn out D voters?

Republicans for the past few years certainly lived in the delusion that O really didnt want to run again, or cared about winning, that the polls showing Romney was losing were all fiction, that Dems had low enthusiasm to vote :exhibit A : Rush. And I saw that stuff he was saying repeated here.

32 posted on 01/16/2013 5:12:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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