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Congresswoman did not swear oath on a Bible
msn ^ | 01/10/13

Posted on 01/15/2013 1:19:47 PM PST by cdchik123

Kyrsten Sinema was sworn into Congress Monday, but with a twist: She didn’t swear on a Bible.

The newly elected representative for Arizona’s 9th district swore her oath of office on a copy of the Constitution instead. Sinema refuses to confirm she is an atheist, as many believe, saying merely that she is “not a member of a faith community” and that all Americans deserve both “freedom of religion and freedom from religion.”

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KEYWORDS: atheists; constitution; kyrstensinema; swearingin
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1 posted on 01/15/2013 1:19:53 PM PST by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123

Let’s see how fast she fails to uphold the Constitution.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 1:21:19 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: cdchik123

Ah, all the signs of no talent and no morals.

Must be of the D-word persuation.

And - of course - a bimbo.

(Bimbo: See “Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Chelsea, and just about any D-word female.)


3 posted on 01/15/2013 1:23:54 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: cdchik123

If Sinema is an Atheist, she is a member of a faith community.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 1:24:27 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: cdchik123

We have so many Representative who have sworn on the Bible and still violate their oaths what does it matter? If someone does not believe in or have the fear of God in them it does not matter if they swear on the Bible or a Penthouse magazine!


5 posted on 01/15/2013 1:25:01 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: bgill

Congress has a Constitution problem — many don’t understand document

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/14/defenders-of-constitution-dont-always-use-it-for-l/


6 posted on 01/15/2013 1:27:07 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: bgill
Let’s see how fast she fails to uphold the Constitution.

If swearing on the Bible means something, then explain Boehner, Pelosi, etc.

7 posted on 01/15/2013 1:27:26 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: cdchik123

8 posted on 01/15/2013 1:28:44 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: bgill

Congress has a Constitution problem — many don’t understand document

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/14/defenders-of-constitution-dont-always-use-it-for-l/


9 posted on 01/15/2013 1:29:12 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: cdchik123

Kyrsten

When one votes for someone with such a name, like Barack, this is what you get....a POS.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 1:30:20 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: cdchik123

LOL. That’s my new congresscritter.....I went from Jeff Flake to that. Redistricted.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 1:34:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: cdchik123
The newly elected representative for Arizona’s 9th district swore her oath of office on a copy of the Constitution instead.

John Quincy Adams took his Presidential Oath of Office with his hand on a law book.

12 posted on 01/15/2013 1:35:40 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: cdchik123

Why would you apply for a job and the FIRST OFFICIAL thing you do is not in standing of what the rules are?

Like Rush used to say....You wanted a McDonalds franchise and the first thing you did was want to do was make it vegetarian.
If your idea is so good and so many people want it that way, START your own business and do what pleases YOU, don’t use MY name to further your business when you want nothing to do with the way I operate.....

Well, something like that and if Rush didn’t say it, I just did, so I guess I would be guilty of the same thing...<:


13 posted on 01/15/2013 1:35:46 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Cyber Liberty

I hope Mayor Vernon Parker seeks a rematch. That thing should be selling vibrators at a Penthouse outlet store.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 1:36:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Izzy Dunne
If swearing on the Bible means something, then explain Boehner, Pelosi, etc.

Get back to you on that one come Judgment day.

15 posted on 01/15/2013 1:36:51 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: xrmusn
Why would you apply for a job and the FIRST OFFICIAL thing you do is not in standing of what the rules are?

What rule requires anyone to swear an oath of office on a Bible?

16 posted on 01/15/2013 1:38:01 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: cdchik123

Will a Buddhist, Muslim or Hindu congressperson be expected to swear an oath on a Bible?

What about if they have to testify in a court of law?

Just asking.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 1:41:05 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Da Coyote

Rumor here in AZ is that she has no male friends (wink, wink).


18 posted on 01/15/2013 1:43:44 PM PST by SMM48
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I think the district is hopeless. Contains all of Tempe and most of central Phoenix. I’m surprised Parker did as well as he did.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 1:44:58 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: cdchik123

I think it takes far more “faith” to believe that God doesn’t exist.


20 posted on 01/15/2013 1:45:39 PM PST by Gator113 (I voted for "love of country".... this mess if your fault.)
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To: All

courts do not use a bible any more. it is only “any statement to put the witness on notice of being subject to perjury”.

this is a nothing story.


21 posted on 01/15/2013 1:47:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Wikipedia says she’s a godless bisexual lawyer....Hardly unique in my book.


22 posted on 01/15/2013 1:48:04 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: bgill

Under the Constitution, either an oath or affirmation suffices.


23 posted on 01/15/2013 1:48:07 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: cdchik123

Now if she’ll just uphold the intent of the Constitution a copy of which she placed her hand upon for swearing in then things will be fine. JMO.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 1:48:42 PM PST by deport
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To: bgill

This was my thought as well.


25 posted on 01/15/2013 1:49:46 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: TexasCajun

Not missing too many meals, eh, Kyrsten? Don’t burst a seam on your way out the door, sweetie.


26 posted on 01/15/2013 2:00:45 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: cdchik123

It may not be perfect but if she has as much respect for the constitution as most folks do for the bible, it could be worse.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 2:03:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SMM48; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Elsie; Godzilla; Holly_P; MHGinTN; ...

Rumor here in AZ is that she has no male friends (wink, wink).

According to this, Kyrsten is openly bisexual.

She is also an ex-Mormon with an undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University. She has a master's degree in social work, a law degree (which she used to work for a while as a criminal defense attorney), and a PhD in Justice Studies. As a child, she lived for two years without running water or electricity in an abandoned gas station after her step-father lost his job.

In other words, she is totally screwed up.

28 posted on 01/15/2013 2:06:40 PM PST by Zakeet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage - Mencken)
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To: TexasCajun

Buck toothed communist wench!


29 posted on 01/15/2013 2:10:01 PM PST by albie
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To: cdchik123

You cannot have freedom from religion, as that would necessarily limit my first amendment rights.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 2:12:46 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: cdchik123
Ok, flame me if you wish, but there is an understanding about this that should be considered. If you don't believe the bible in the first place, what good would it do to swear against it?

On the other hand, I have a funny story about that very thing.

My Grandmother was called into court on various occasions as a state witness. she was a child welfare worker for several decades and saw some pretty awful stuff. But at any rate, she ended up in court as a witness on frequent cases.
Now, being a very strict Southern Baptist, my Grandmother never like the words they said to her... "do you swear to tell the truth etc..". It was actually funny because every singe time, she refused and when asked why she would simply state "I don't swear, especially with my hand on the Bible". She always got a pass and it never stopped her from testifying, just a funny story I thought I'd share. Some of the judges even got a chuckle out of it once in a while so I am told.

anyway, if you ever want to get off-topic again, just ping me

31 posted on 01/15/2013 2:14:40 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: cdchik123

Since there is NO religious test allowed, I think I would prefer her and the other 434 plus 100 plus 9 plus 1 to place their hands on and swear by the New York Times rather than the Bible or the Constitution, since they will not support and probably will attempt to subvert both.


32 posted on 01/15/2013 2:19:49 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I feel your pain, Cyber. I went from Schweikert to that greasy little pig Grijalva. Now my rep is Kirkpatrick, who HAS to be an improvement.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 2:20:11 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: cdchik123

She is entitled to her religious views.She MUST swear The Oath To”Preserve,Protect,and Defend The US Constitution”!!!


34 posted on 01/15/2013 2:25:44 PM PST by bandleader
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To: Mastador1

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, a self-proclaimed Hindu, swore on the Bhagavad Gita but supports abortion.


35 posted on 01/15/2013 2:31:20 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: SMM48

Here’s my surprised face.


36 posted on 01/15/2013 2:41:20 PM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: cdchik123
that all Americans deserve both “freedom of religion and freedom from religion.”

Welcome to the world of the Impossible. Another daddy's girl who hated growing up under rules and just wanted to be a bad girl, so now she hates all religion.

37 posted on 01/15/2013 2:43:50 PM PST by Clock King
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To: cdchik123

These people can’t tell the truth.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 2:54:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cdchik123

I dont have a problem with what she did.

But if you dont believe in God, what is the point of swearing an oath.

If there is no extra human enforcement mechanism?


39 posted on 01/15/2013 3:05:53 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: cdchik123
Kyrsten Sinema is an open bisexual atheist who once referred to herself as a ‘Prada Socialist’. She also proclaimed ‘stay-at-homes moms are leeches who only live off their husbands and boyfriends and cash the paychecks. There's no Feminism in that’. This embarrassment would not have won if not for the Libertarian, who siphoned off 10,000 votes from a great Conservative, Vernon Parker. She also benefited from the ‘Independent-Bipartisan Redistricting Committee’. Turns out the ‘Independent’ was really a Dem. So she met with the other two Dems behind closed doors, using a Consulting Group that contributed to Obama, and the new Districts are now 5 Dem and 4 Republican. This in a state with an R Governor, two R Senators, an R Attorney General, etc., etc. Gov Brewer filed a lawsuit to stop the Districts but a Leftist judge ruled against Brewer. Democrats are pigs without a conscience.
40 posted on 01/15/2013 3:08:55 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Zakeet

There are people in this world who start with horrible and very poor conditions, who become valuable and productive citizens.
There are also people in this world who start with horrible and very poor conditions who use that to continue to make the mistakes the adults in their lives made rather than better themselves.
Krystie seems to have picked the later - you are correct she is really messed up.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 3:09:33 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: cdchik123

Kyrsten Sinema Will Serve as ‘First Openly Bisexual Member’ of Congress


42 posted on 01/15/2013 3:31:29 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: bandleader
.She MUST swear

According to what rule?

43 posted on 01/15/2013 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: albie

..............Buck toothed communist ...............

All the better to munch the carpet!


44 posted on 01/15/2013 3:44:43 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: albie

..............Buck toothed communist ...............

All the better to munch the carpet!


45 posted on 01/15/2013 3:47:53 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: xrmusn

Is the “rule” that you must swear on a Bible? If so it’s a stupid rule, because an oath thereupon to those for whom it is just another book would be meaningless. The point of an oath is that there be consequences for the person taking it, if only to their own conscience.

Why do we still have oaths, anyway? Whether it’s a good thing or not they’re as anachronistic as calling lawyers “esquire.” We break contracts, even, willy-nilly. Oaths of office are downright feudal. Unless we begin again lopping off the heads of oathbreakers like in Game of Thrones, I suggest we drop the charade.

Then again, rituals can be meaningful even should no one understand their significance. Then again again, empty rituals which everyone knows to he empty mock ritualism. It’s not that the ceremonies still Kean something without fitting into the contemporary culture. We know what they’re suppose to mean and know also that they don’t mean that anymore.


46 posted on 01/15/2013 4:11:30 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Zakeet

Also known for her past connections with the Communist Party and openly called herself a “socialist”, among other things - and they elected her anyway. This stuff was pointed out in ads ran in the district.


47 posted on 01/15/2013 4:18:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Clock King

There’s nothing wrong with freedom from religion, depending upon how you mean it. If it’s no official state church, fine. No special status for religious institutions, okay. No religious imagery displayed officially by public authorities, probably not. No public funds going to religious institutions, definitely not. No nonpublic religiousness assaulting your ears and eyes, absolutely not.


48 posted on 01/15/2013 4:18:52 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: cdchik123

God will know her heart. I will know by her actions. More A-holes have sworn on a stack of Bibles, and then lied cheated and stole. I could not care less how she is sworn. I care how she acts.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 4:23:05 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: cdchik123

An OATH has always been a call on God to witness the truth. It isnt really an OATH if God is not involved.

If no God or No Bible is the standard today, them it is not an OATH!


50 posted on 01/15/2013 4:25:19 PM PST by neverbluffer
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