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Obama's 23 Executive Gun Control Actions (Here's the list for the high information voter)
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/16/2013 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/16/2013 10:46:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: woodenickel
If I search for AR15 parts on the internet or talk about guns here in freeper will I fail the back round check?

Oh yeah, you're dead meat. Not only you but your whole family gene pool are SOL. Once you get the mark of the O on you, that's all she wrote. You'll be lucky to get a slingshot permit!

51 posted on 01/16/2013 11:43:31 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: SeekAndFind
What do you do? What do you tell your doctor?!

Step 1: meet with your lawyer and set up a gun trust (either title 1 or title 2 NFA)

2: put all of your firearms on a schedule A or B within the trust.

3: When doc or any agent of the state ask if you own guns, legally and ethically you can say, "My wife and I do not personally own firearms". ( because the property is a separate trust asset)

52 posted on 01/16/2013 11:45:20 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Look for the UNION label.....then buy something else!)
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To: SeekAndFind

:-)

I live in Texas.

So this list REALLY means nothing to me.

You have my sympathies...


53 posted on 01/16/2013 11:45:20 AM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don’t see any assault weapons ban on the list.... WHEW!

Even as fond as he is of ruling by executive orders, he knows that he can't ban any class of guns without congress making it into law, so he's depending on congress to enact a ban that meets his approval. An “assault weapon” bill is sure to be introduced in congress ASAP and will probably pass in the Democrat controlled Senate, but I don't think it will make the grade in the GOP majority house. If it does a lot of GOP congresscritters will be out of a job after the 2014 election, and that would include mine if he votes for ANY new gun law. We are already denied too many (one is one too many) of our 2nd A rights by unconstitutional laws such as LBJ's 1968 Gun Control Act, enough is enough.

54 posted on 01/16/2013 11:47:55 AM PST by epow (The way of the cross leads home)
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To: CaptSkip

The left thinks everything that falls from Obama’s lips is a pearl. They won’t criticize a thing.


55 posted on 01/16/2013 11:48:47 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

“18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. “

What is a school resource officer??

Maybe they can make Federal Agents “resource officers”?


56 posted on 01/16/2013 11:49:27 AM PST by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: gmd777
Does anyone think it’s time for a million man gun march on DC?

Then it would be time for the Feds to practice their "corralling and kettling" techniques. They will push the crowd into a confined space and trap them there until the laws of nature take over and everyone needs to find a restroom and some food.

If you really plan to do this you will need some outside support, not part of the crowd. Everyone attending should be prepared to spend 24 hours without outside food/water, in case the Feds do this. Plan to bring plenty of food and water, extra batteries for smartphones, so that you can outlast them. Plan to urinate in street drains as necessary, etc.

Don't bring a gun or even a facsimile of a gun because you'll be targeted first and probably shot on sight.

Definition of Kettling...

57 posted on 01/16/2013 11:49:40 AM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Harry Reid payed him a visit and ‘splained politics 101 to him.


58 posted on 01/16/2013 11:50:19 AM PST by technically right
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To: P-Marlowe

I love the smell of milquetoast, smoke and mirrors in the morning.

BUT I won’t be so bold as to say that it smells like victory.

We are a long way from that.


59 posted on 01/16/2013 11:51:48 AM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: DCBryan1

“What do you do? What do you tell your doctor?!

It’s none of your f**k’n business.


60 posted on 01/16/2013 11:54:25 AM PST by technically right
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To: SeekAndFind

He bought time & we got some, too, in the bargain. Good enough for today.
Forewarned is forearmed, no pun intended.


61 posted on 01/16/2013 11:56:14 AM PST by KGeorge (hoplophobia: n. irrational, morbid fear of guns. A mental disorder coined by Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: SeekAndFind
Bwahahaha!

Is this Wednesday or the Friday Silliness Thread?

There's so much stupid shat in this, it's hard to tell.

FMCDH(BITS)

62 posted on 01/16/2013 11:58:30 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: SeekAndFind

So will Walmart start selling ammo again?


63 posted on 01/16/2013 12:03:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Baseballguy

“What is a school resource officer??”

Frequently an off duty cop or other person qualified to provide security.

Usually they are armed.


64 posted on 01/16/2013 12:04:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CygnusXI

Exactly. The devil is in the details. We don’t know what any of this actually means yet.


65 posted on 01/16/2013 12:08:05 PM PST by JGT
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To: SeekAndFind

Correct me if i am wrong, but none of these would have prevented the Newtown massacre.

These actions are a result in the belief that there is a pandemic of people with assault weapons shooting up people.

...which is not true.

Where is the $500 million dollars going to come from to pay for these suggestions?


66 posted on 01/16/2013 12:09:06 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: muffaletaman

I’d wondered if this would be a defusing move: let the opposition whip themselves into an embarrassing frenzy, then announce nothing controversial.

New EOs can be issued any time.
And AWB2 is well on its way to Congress.


67 posted on 01/16/2013 12:11:50 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: CaptSkip
What just happened? The Left blinked?

Crapped their undies, more likely. This is a big nothing, at least short term. I do worry about the mental health and privacy stuff - we STILL don't know everything in Obamacare - but that's going to take them plenty of time to take care of...CDC studies and all. Meanwhile, bigger issues will present themselves, like the country being broke. I don't think that the Dems or the Pubbies have forgotten 1994 or 2000 yet - when gun owners took Dems to the cleaners and promoted Algore to ex-Veep and High Priest of Gaia.

68 posted on 01/16/2013 12:12:38 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Number 5 concernms me.

If anyone lives in a disaster area, then the police can confiscate first in the ANTICIPATION that once confiscated it will be impossible to have it returned.

Essentially taking without compensation.

Guilty until proven innocent.


69 posted on 01/16/2013 12:14:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Scrambler Bob
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education. “

Lapierre already proposed something better than that, i.e., put armed officers in every school. Of course that wasn't acceptable to the gun Nazis because it wouldn't do any harm to our RKBA. Not only that, it would probably be successful which is the last thing the antis want. They're willing to sacrifice our children if that's what it takes to get a total gun ban.

70 posted on 01/16/2013 12:17:11 PM PST by epow (The way of the cross leads home)
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To: Travis McGee

Low information voter:

-free obamaphone!

-obama money to pay our rent!

-free houses!

-MSM: free booze!!!!!!


71 posted on 01/16/2013 12:17:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing on that list will keep guns out of the hands of our feral population.


72 posted on 01/16/2013 12:19:03 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I like #9: Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

Should work well in Fast & Furious

73 posted on 01/16/2013 12:20:11 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: lurk

If my doc ever asks, I will take a page from the military, “I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of firearms in my resides or possession.”


74 posted on 01/16/2013 12:20:46 PM PST by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

Huh? WTH does health exchanges under Obamacare have to do with guns?

76 posted on 01/16/2013 12:22:35 PM PST by matt04
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!

6) Why tell licensed dealers how to conduct background checks on peoples’ private gun sales, of which the dealer has no part? This assumes it will now be illegal to privately sell guns without a background check by a licensed dealer.

The whole intent is to know where each and every weapon is located. NOTHING MORE.
Once the gov't knows where they are, they can go get them.
Look for citizen-informants set up for entrapment stings.
The gov't stooge will put in an offer to buy a weapon. If the seller does not require the sale to be conducted through an FFL holder, the seller will be arrested.

BANK ON IT
In the next few years, you'll see some high profile stings. This is order to show the subjects "whose boss".
Of course with this, all weapons will go underground and you will now be treated like a drug dealer.
77 posted on 01/16/2013 12:24:26 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
2) “Oh, sure, there are *privacy protections* in HIPPA to protect citizens from government snooping at multiple levels.” Guess what? Your medical records are now public domain.

Some nurse practitioner thinks your "weird", no gun.

78 posted on 01/16/2013 12:26:36 PM PST by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: SeekAndFind; RKBA Democrat; First A Patriot; truthkeeper; jwalsh07; rob777; dragnet2; pgkdan; ...
Hope all the conservatives who stayed home (or voted for some third party loser) in November are pleased with themselves today.

I was never a Romney fan, but what happened today would ABSOLUTELY NOT happen under a Romney administration.

And the Marxist hasn't even been inaugurated into his second term yet. We're in for a helluva ride over the next four years...

79 posted on 01/16/2013 12:28:03 PM PST by nutmeg (FUBO!)
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To: driftdiver
So will Walmart start selling ammo again?

Got 300 rounds of 9mm and 150 380 today. They were out of 22 value packs in 2 stores. First time I've seen that.

80 posted on 01/16/2013 12:34:16 PM PST by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Quite frankly, most of this list is 1) lets study this or 2) lets look at that. For those who wanted the president to actually do something, all he did was put on a good show. There is very little of substance in this list. It looks like they took some presidential aide’s list of to do’s and published it.


81 posted on 01/16/2013 12:38:12 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Adder
I am sorry they have cynically chosen to make MY Dr. the point of THEIR spear...but I recognize him as an adversary, not a “friend”. ALL of them are.

YEP
LEO and Doctors are all going to be used as the point of the spear.
They are the Dear Reader's human shields.
Now, LEO and Doctors just became nothing more than a service provide to me. They are not my friends or acquaintances. I owe them nothing more than payment for services rendered
LEO has a very hard decision to make. Some will follow the Dear Reader in hopes of advancing their own careers (and putting beans on the table). Others will see the deadly gamble and betrayal that it really is.

This is a time of choosing; a time of great sifting
82 posted on 01/16/2013 12:40:05 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: nutmeg

Hey, George P. Bush wants a piece of the action soon. Haven’t you taken stock of that list of losers the Republican party has advanced? George H. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain and recently Romney. Every single one of them was and is a RHINO.


83 posted on 01/16/2013 12:40:49 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Secret Agent Man
While much is fluff, the trick here in some of them is finding new ways to disqualify people from owning firearms, via your doctor.

Yep! #4 is going to turn out to be quite the hidden gem via your doctor or otherwise:

Expect to see broad new categories of people prohibited to own firearms. Non-violent misdemeanors, DWI, reckelss driving, minor drug offenses. Hell, maybe even bad credit or bankruptcy! And like Lautenburg, it'll be applied retroactively and a felony offense for non-compliance.

84 posted on 01/16/2013 12:47:42 PM PST by Drew68
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely none of these proposed “regulations”, NONE of them, would have prevented Adam Lanza from doing what he did.

This is just a power grab, pure and simple.


85 posted on 01/16/2013 12:49:22 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: muffaletaman
I predict the gun-control wackos are not going to be pleased.

That's the very first thought I had. They're throwing a candy bar on the table when the anti-gun crazies want a full course meal.

It will be interesting to see how the MSM tries to spin these 23 "executive orders" to the public in the next 24 to 48 hours.

86 posted on 01/16/2013 12:58:25 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Westbrook

The NRA has #7 covered and no tax dollars are needed.


87 posted on 01/16/2013 12:58:40 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Ancesthntr
Yeah, I FULLY EXPECTED a total import ban today.

That'll teach me to put my money where my expectations are. Dang. Oh well, fun ahead! ;-)

88 posted on 01/16/2013 12:59:34 PM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1,2,3,4 Are all about increasing the information in a “Federal background check system”. Only information enumerated and approved by Congress should be allowed to be in that database.

5. We need better laws and penalties preventing unlawful seizure. There should be time limits on returning guns and the criteria for not returning one needs to be crystal clear. And there should be a quick and inexpensive appeal process to challenge any findings preventing gun return.

6. Providing background checks for private sellers may not be a bad idea. But it should require the consent of the buyer. And Congress should regulate the retention of any data collected in the process. Background checks should not be allowed to become a defacto method of gun registration.

7. Education on safety is okay but they should be prevented from promoting gun registration to states in any way.

8, 15 Safety reviews are fine. Regulations requiring private owners to have locks and safes is not.

9, 10, 14, generates useless reports.

11, 12, 13 were things they were probably going to do anyway.

16 Doctors shouldn’t be allowed to keep a record of whether people have guns in their homes. Doctors can provide gun safety information to homes of children, but they don’t need to ask to be able to do that.

17 is nonsense, I doubt there are many health care providers confusing health privacy with threats of violence.

18 Is a “school resource officer” an armed guard? If so, fine. Maybe they can double teaching a shooting class.

19 Got to stop those Bible clingers! Actually law enforcement should be working with houses of worship to keep them safe. But this one needs to be watched that it doesn’t become oppressive against houses of worship. Especially in light of Homeland’s security stance on Christians being terrorists.

20, 21, 22, 23 are all focusing on mental health. We do need to make it easier to commit a dangerous person, while at the same time, making it harder to use commitment as a means of violating a person’s rights. We made a mistake turning the mentally ill out on the street. This shooting could have been avoided if the mother wasn’t having to jump through hoops to get her son committed.


89 posted on 01/16/2013 12:59:52 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Gaffer
Yes, you are correct. It is that pesky intrusive information sharing that I am concerned with. All Obama legislation seems riddled with this. I share your enthusiasm regarding the replacement of any politicians willing to go along with the dismantling of the 2nd amendment.
90 posted on 01/16/2013 1:09:56 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr
It is that pesky intrusive information sharing that I am concerned with.

I can understand your concern, but you must also realize that they didn't need this tragedy/gun 'violence' thing to do what they intended to do anyway. They planned all along to amass all that information for one thing----control!

They could give a rat's patooty about doctors sharing information more efficiently. It's about billing, it's about singling out people, it's about 'classifying' people, and then using that information to control people, period.

91 posted on 01/16/2013 1:14:46 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Huskrrrr
For our congress critters who won't stand up for the Constitution.


92 posted on 01/16/2013 1:16:21 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I like #4, it will disarm Eric Holder and most of the federal government.

You're joking, right?

93 posted on 01/16/2013 1:17:29 PM PST by wastedyears (Obama and Democrats to Republicans: "LOL!")
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To: Secret Agent Man; Travis McGee; sickoflibs
the trick here in some of them is finding new ways to disqualify people from owning firearms, via your doctor.

ding...ding...ding...

as i read the list, its all about implementing bambamcare parts and ramping up the disqualified list...

the 'under the radar' stuff isnt going to be telegraphed with the vocal pushback weve seen the last few weeks...

94 posted on 01/16/2013 1:20:04 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Travis McGee; sickoflibs
the trick here in some of them is finding new ways to disqualify people from owning firearms, via your doctor.

ding...ding...ding...

as i read the list, its all about implementing bambamcare parts and ramping up the disqualified list...

the 'under the radar' stuff isnt going to be telegraphed with the vocal pushback weve seen the last few weeks...

95 posted on 01/16/2013 1:20:59 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: nutmeg

>>Hope all the conservatives who stayed home (or voted for some third party loser) in November are pleased with themselves today.
I was never a Romney fan, but what happened today would ABSOLUTELY NOT happen under a Romney administration.

And the Marxist hasn’t even been inaugurated into his second term yet. We’re in for a helluva ride over the next four years...<<

I have said for SOOO long — the perfect is the enemy of the good (or, in this case, the not so awful).

“I AIN’T GONNA VOTE FOR NO ROMNEY-CARE MAKIN’ RINO!” was the response I got (and the occasional ping to JR crying to Daddy that the bad man — me — was making them butt hurt). And then they present flawed math and flawed logic why throwing their vote away was NOT a vote for obozo. The emmaculation II results and the soon to be illegal but allowed nationwide gun-grab say otherwise.

Yes, I blame them. As should we all.

Had the stay-at-homes held their noses and voted for Romney, obozocare would be a few days from repeal and guns settled unmolested in holsters and gun racks in homes of patriots across the country.

Get ready for them to talk a good game but when it comes down to it they will capitulate rather than be the next Ruby Ridge.

I live in TX — I am pretty safe since I know our Government will fight 6 ways to Sunday to keep my 2nd Amendment Rights and the gummint is too scared to come after REAL push-back (if not, the Nation is through and we can AGAIN thank those people).


96 posted on 01/16/2013 1:26:14 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Is #18 going to put armed guards in schools?


97 posted on 01/16/2013 1:31:55 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: SeekAndFind

98 posted on 01/16/2013 1:32:28 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: nutmeg

“Hope all the conservatives who stayed home (or voted for some third party loser) in November are pleased with themselves today”

Nicely put - keep saying that. There are alot righteous people on FR who think that they are above it all.


99 posted on 01/16/2013 1:33:15 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: Baseballguy

Maybe the TSA can do this?
Look at all the “fun” they have at airports.


100 posted on 01/16/2013 1:35:07 PM PST by Ricebug
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