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To: Tublecane
The Declaration of Independence is the first part of the organic law of the United States. It's signing marked the beginning of this republic. This is simply a fact.

To say that the Declaration is not part of our laws is like claiming that the foundation is not part of a building, or that a body can be sustained without the presence of a soul.

"Fellow-citizens, the ark of your covenant is the Declaration of Independence. Your Mount Ebal, is the confederacy of separate state sovereignties, and your Mount Gerizim is the Constitution of the United States. In that scene of tremendous and awful solemnity, narrated in the Holy Scriptures, there is not a curse pronounced against the people, upon Mount Ebal, not a blessing promised them upon Mount Gerizim, which your posterity may not suffer or enjoy, from your and their adherence to, or departure from, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, practically interwoven in the Constitution of the United States. Lay up these principles, then, in your hearts, and in your souls - bind them for signs upon your hands, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes - teach them to your children, speaking of them when sitting in your houses, when walking by the way, when lying down and when rising up - write them upon the doorplates of your houses, and upon your gates - cling to them as to the issues of life - adhere to them as to the cords of your eternal salvation. So may your children's children at the next return of this day of jubilee, after a full century of experience under your national Constitution, celebrate it again in the full enjoyment of all the blessings recognized by you in the commemoration of this day, and of all the blessings promised to the children of Israel upon Mount Gerizim, as the reward of obedience to the law of God."

-- John Quincy Adams, the Jubilee of the U.S. Constitution: a Discourse


29 posted on 01/16/2013 9:41:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: EternalVigilance

What is “organic law”? Sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me. The Declaration absolutely did not begin the Republic. The Republic took form with the Constitution. Before that, it was states united under the Articles of Confederation. Before that, states united under the Continental Congress. Before that, colonies of the British empire.

There was no mystical bond running beneath the different arrangements rendering them one republic, eternal. Arguing otherwise cheapens the meaning of the Constitution, among other things. It also spits on the true place of the states, which us not as parts of an organic whole but entities unto themselves. They are the real thing, the underlying thing, not the Republic.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 11:33:49 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: EternalVigilance

By the way, presumably the various charters and such establishing the colonies under British rule aren’t part of your organic US law. Why? Apparently only everything after declaration of independence matters. After that it’s one nation, indivisible. But why? The Continental Congress didn’t last. What if it hadn’t been replaced by the Articles? Would we still have been a republic? What if there hadn’t been a coup backed up by popular referendum to establish the Constitution? Still a republic, even without the current form of government? What if the North had let the South go or the Confederates won the war? Still a republic, even if we are two? Or more?

This line of speculation soon careens into silliness. Had we won the War if 1812 you’d be saying Canadian states were always part of the mystical republic. Should Pietro Rico had become a state by now you’d have said the same. Had we never expanded past the Northwest Ordinance you’d be saying who or whatever to the West wasn’t ever really America.

For me how and why we are a republic and not a confederacy matters. The Constitution makes a difference. Whatever we would have been without the 87 coup, it is not what we are.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 11:48:14 PM PST by Tublecane
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