Posted on 01/17/2013 2:16:28 AM PST by Kaslin
We have a saying down here. “Do the South a favor put a yankee on a bus”.
Luckily, I know the South well, and I know that its people are far better than the example several of their self-appointed representatives are setting on this thread.
reference please.
And, of course, this has been the common practice of armies for centuries.
Moreover, what is with all this talk of "aggression"? Did the Union fire on Fort Sumter?
The Army of the Tennessee was ordered TO plunder. Conversely the Army of NoVa was order NOT TO plunder. Of course some in the AofNoVa violated the orders and when caught were PUNISHED.
Bless your little pea picking heart.
Case of Davis, 7 F. Case 63 (C.C.D. Va. 1867)
C. Ellen Connally did a lengthy piece on the case in the 2009 University of Akron Law Review.
This was the appeal that Davis brought to the Federal Circuit Court in Virginia - the history of the case is extremely complex, and he fought it in court for close to four years.
You are doing your cause no favors.
The Army of Northern Virginia was ordered not to requisition anything without the empty formality of offering worthless Confederate government IOUs first.
So, clearing aside the technical language, both armies were ordered to take whatever they felt like taking. And they did. With both hands.
Davis motioned the court three years post war.
But let's say the clerk was wrong and Wikipedia is right: how does that change the fact that Davis, rather than welcoming the indictment, appealed it?
Davis' desire to go to trial magically appeared only after it was certain that he would not be put on trial.
I guess like any human he wanted to be put on trial or freed, the cowardly Yankees couldn’t make up the widdle minds. They were skirt of Massa Davis.
I suspect Lee's in for a lot of "debunking" -- a general who goes against the country he once swore allegiance to and makes the conflict much bloodier than it would otherwise have been -- especially after so many decades of reverence.
At least we should consider that there are two sides to the controversy. I'm not saying the Civil War is still going on, but we're not quite at the point where the English -- who can look back on Cavaliers and Roundheads and bless them both equally and without distinction -- are with their Civil War.
It’ll be rural vs city - yes some places will be less so such as Texas where Austin I’m sure will be quickly taken out, but here in Ohio it’ll be the five city enclaves vs 1/2 the suburbs and everyone else. Illinois will be Chicago and e St. Louis and Springfield vs farm country. Indiana may be mainly north vs south ... Even New York has its folks who wills seek out redress from the burden of NYC and Albany.
I see cordons around the cities and channels between the cities.
Perhaps when FreeRepublic gets back on its feet again I can see what foolishness the Lost Cause Losers have posted this time ;-)
The Coven has descended....
The Coven has descended....just as soon as you posted.
Yes it is a myth. Sherman sure did destroy a lot of stuff... railroads, cotton gins, factories, anything that might have military value. And his foragers sure made off with a lot of food and livestock (and I'm sure silver tea sets and other things of value.) That's what armies living off the land do and what Lee did in his northern campaigns. Sherman also did burn the homes of known rebel leaders or places where he encountered organized resistance, and he did hang a few bushwhackers his men caught.
But Shelby Foote looked for years for evidence of the Southern lore he was raised with of vast raping and killing of women and children that the Lost Cause Sherman myth insists upon, and he could find no evidence for any of it.
Sherman was very effective in breaking both the ability and the will of the Confederates, but he was not the mass murdering Gengis Kahn that the Lost Causers Myth crowd invoke.
Sherman probably saved tens of thousands of lives both North and South by bring that war of attrition to a conclusion a year or so before it would have ended otherwise.
Thanks for posting the article.
My great-grandfather’s oldest brother was in Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia, with the 13th Mississippi. I believe wardaddy’s wife is related to his commanding officer at Gettysburg.
Like you would know? Feh.
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