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Comes A Stillness
Townhall.com ^ | January 17, 2013 | Paul Greenberg

Posted on 01/17/2013 2:16:28 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: donmeaker

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2011/04/scrubbing-the-confederacy-robert-e-lee-edition

Read some more.


151 posted on 01/21/2013 8:18:19 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: jmacusa

“Funny thing is Lincoln didn’t have Lee hung, isn’t it?”

Kind of hard to do with a bullet in your brain.


152 posted on 01/21/2013 8:39:43 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: donmeaker

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/finding-your-roots/stories/robert-e-lee-and-his-slave-children-my-3rd-great-grandfather-is-mack-lee-born-in-texas/


153 posted on 01/21/2013 8:48:12 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

When you find some evidence backing up your “she could have gotten some money” guesswork then get back to us donny. Until you do it’s just more of the speculation, half-truths and history twisting that you like to wallow in.

It’s well established that the Lees had no money and had to live with relatives after his father’s death. There is no evidence otherwise and you are simply making things up to further your agenda.

Are you as tiresome in your daily life as you are online? I bet your acquaintances find ways to leave the room when you walk in.


154 posted on 01/21/2013 9:20:48 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: donmeaker

“I have never been accused of beating slaves, nor of treason, nor of assault on another.”

And since when is accusation equated with fact? Is that a habit you picked up over at DU?

I mean a few of us certainly accuse you of being dishonest and a fool. Does accusation equal fact then, too? Or are accusations ‘fact’ only when you like them?


155 posted on 01/21/2013 9:28:39 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: donmeaker

Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly...

“Nolan, who is a lawyer and not an historian (a fact which should be borne in mind as you read this book), attempts to put the romantic, mythological Lee “on trial” and expose him for the flawed and decidedly unheroic person that Nolan believes him to be.”

” Like a good lawyer, Nolan denies trying to “convict” Lee in the beginning of the book, and even states that he admires him in some ways, but the rest of the book reveals Nolan to be committed to “convicting” his target of several specific charges.”

“Nolan presents a good deal of “evidence” (much of it in Lee’s own words), but like a good prosecutor he leaves out “evidence” which contradicts his theories.”

“Dr. James McPherson, the famed Civil War historian and author of “Battle Cry of Freedom”, can hardly be called a “neo-Confederate” historian (if anything he’s pro-Union), but even he has some problems with Nolan’s book.

A few years ago he wrote a criticism of “Lee Considered” in which he “judged” Nolan’s “trial” of Lee, and while he found Lee to be “guilty” of being more pro-slavery than the Lee myth allows, he also found Lee to be “innocent” of prolonging the War and that Nolan failed to “prove” many of his other charges”


156 posted on 01/21/2013 9:43:57 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: Rebelbase

Could have made it a standing order.Stanton would have loved to do it.


157 posted on 01/21/2013 10:31:03 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Pelham

http://books.google.com/books?id=jrWWYszWO2YC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false


158 posted on 01/21/2013 10:47:19 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Pelham

So is it your contention that Lee did not make war against the United States? How deluded are you?

Lee himself applied for pardon, acknowledging it.

Didn’t you know that?


159 posted on 01/21/2013 11:15:05 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Pelham

The persons who accuse me of being dishonest are themselves dishonest.

The persons who accuse me of being a fool are themselves foolish.

By contrast, the persons who recognize flaws in Lee and in the motivations and practices of Slave Power are using facts, and morally are on the side of the angels.


160 posted on 01/22/2013 1:44:19 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; rockrr
Here is an example of what Rush was talking about:

White, “Christian” and Treasonous: Who Will They Kill?

161 posted on 01/23/2013 7:43:04 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket; Lazamataz

I see our friend Lazamataz has already been there ;-)


162 posted on 01/23/2013 7:59:10 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: donmeaker

Poor donny. All the bad people pick on him, when all he is doing is bringing The Greater Truth to all the benighted ingrates. sniff


163 posted on 01/27/2013 11:30:37 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: donmeaker

Try looking up “duress” donny.

It will be good for you to learn a new word.


164 posted on 01/27/2013 11:32:57 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: donmeaker

“and morally are on the side of the angels.”

Good grief. If you keep on in this vein you are going to give idiocy a bad name.


165 posted on 01/27/2013 11:35:25 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: Pelham

Duress is what happened when southern soldiers were conscripted under color of authority to force them into treason in support of slavery.

Duress is when Lee put snipers behind his men to shoot them dead if they retreated.

Duress is when Beauregard fired on Major Anderson at Sumter to force a US officer performing his duty to surrender and evacuate his post.

Duress is when Lee put up whipping posts for the slaves at Arlington, and paid a man to whip a teenage girl, shouting ‘Lay it on!”


166 posted on 01/28/2013 8:53:13 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Pelham

I see you self identify as ‘dishonest’.


167 posted on 01/28/2013 8:54:34 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Rebelbase

Lee was covered under the surrender agreement at Appromatox. Unless he violated the terms of parole, he could not be tried. Grant made that point, to the extent necessary.

Lee did apply for a pardon, which admitted guilt.


168 posted on 01/28/2013 12:52:20 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: rustbucket

That is because South Carolina deserved what they got and more.

Poor South Carolina. Too small to be a country, to large to be an asylum.


169 posted on 01/28/2013 1:02:18 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: rustbucket

That is because South Carolina deserved what they got and more.

Poor South Carolina. Too small to be a country, too large to be an asylum.


170 posted on 01/28/2013 1:02:52 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

What does that have to do with Lincoln getting his brains blown out?


171 posted on 01/28/2013 3:23:29 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: Rebelbase

The suppression of the insurrection was legal. The War of the Great Rebellion was conducted with courts in session, and the Supreme Court made several rulings against the Lincoln administration.

By contrast the Davis regime of the pretended confederacy never got around to appointing their counterpart to the US Supreme Court. Davis was thus free to act illegally, and did. After the war was over, a southern partisan illegally murdered the elected US president, an act the victorious US did not do to the traitor, Jeff Davis.

Of course there is that rude song about the sour apple tree for the southern partisans to complain about.


172 posted on 01/28/2013 5:26:27 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

What does that have to do with Lincoln getting his brains blown out?


173 posted on 01/28/2013 5:42:55 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: Rebelbase

The assassination of Lincoln was just another illegal act by the slave power and its supporters.

By contrast, the US government was, quite properly, restricted by law throughout.


174 posted on 01/28/2013 6:53:59 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

“I see you self identify as ‘dishonest’.”

Not at all. However I find you to be both dishonest and a fool. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I’m sure it contributes to your happiness.


175 posted on 01/29/2013 5:54:19 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: Pelham

To crooked eyes, truth has an awry face.


176 posted on 01/29/2013 7:09:24 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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