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State Police Identify Weapons Used In Sandy Hook Investigation; Investigation Continues
The Newtown Bee ^ | January 18, 2013 | Newtown Bee

Posted on 01/18/2013 2:12:13 PM PST by Uncle Chip

In press conferences that have been held since 12/14, the Connecticut State Police have identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

"To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene," Connecticut State Police Spokesman Lt J. Paul Vance said Friday, January 18, via a press release.

Seized inside the school were the following: a Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips; a Glock 10 mm handgun; and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun.

Seized from the suspect’s car in parking lot was a Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun.

The case remains under investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at newtownbee.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; dsj; lanza; newtown; sandyhook; sandyhooktruthers
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To: Vendome
I hqce stripped clips for my Springfield M1A but...

I have loaded magazines in an M14 with the stripper clips. Sometimes it was difficult. There is an adapter to load the magazines directly and not use the device on the gun but you have to outsmart it. There is a tap on the clips you need to bend back out of the way before you insert it into the adapter. I would have hated to reload magazines in combat. The M1 Garand at least came with bandoleers with the clips loaded. You had to watch your thumb when inserting them though.

51 posted on 01/18/2013 2:55:25 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
a 10mm glock? they exist (Glock G20) but that is an odd weapon.

It was standard issue for the FBI, but only briefly. The girls couldn't handle it so they switched to .40 cal.

52 posted on 01/18/2013 2:57:12 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: onyx
ruled by TYRANTS: CA, NJ, NY.

Yep expected.

What caught my eye is that they're full up with orders until 2015!

53 posted on 01/18/2013 2:57:38 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Noumenon

“Yes, they do exist, and it’s a mighty fine weapon. I’ve had mine for almost two decades now. It’s a fight stopper.”

sigh, 10mm.

I took down many feral pigs with one, back in the day when you could get ACTUAL 10mm ammo. The 10mm is was designed to be the equivalent of the .41 Mag, and when you could get real 10mm (170 grain Norma for example) - it was. Now all you can find is ammo that is loaded basically to .40 levels. If I wasn’t too lazy to hand load, I’d still be shooting mine (SW 1006).


54 posted on 01/18/2013 2:58:05 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: mountainlion

I’ve tried pushing the clips through the guide above the port.

They go in fine but then it takes a mightier man than me to get more than 3 rounds in.

I was looking to save weight but I must have the strength of a newborn baby.


55 posted on 01/18/2013 2:58:05 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: knarf
This is my rifle
this is my gun
this is for killin’
n’ this is for fun

Louder! I cann’t Hearrr you!!!!!!!!!!

56 posted on 01/18/2013 2:58:25 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Noumenon

“True enough. Not a ‘go to’ caliber for most folks.”

The 40 S&W is basically a shortened version of it. Most of the PD around here have the 40 S&W Glock. Nice round.


57 posted on 01/18/2013 3:00:52 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I also noted the date right away and wondered how many other states would be on their no ship list and if they would be permitted to fill the pre-paid shipments to those states...


58 posted on 01/18/2013 3:00:56 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Iscool

That’s not so. It’s a grey shotgun case. Take another look:

One person takes the shotgun out of the trunk and then another person reaches in the trunk and removes the grey shotgun case.


60 posted on 01/18/2013 3:02:09 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; jjotto; Responsibility2nd

After yesterday, I was pretty sure FR was right about no assault weapon used at Newtown, but now I don’t know again.


61 posted on 01/18/2013 3:02:39 PM PST by veracious
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
a 10mm glock? they exist (Glock G20) but that is an odd weapon.

Used to kill a Bernalillo County, NM Deputy Sheriff stopping a desperate man over a dim license plate light not too long ago.

I own a Glock Model 30. Easy to find ammo at a price, but try to find a holster.

Finally had one built by El Paso Saddlery.

62 posted on 01/18/2013 3:03:04 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Boogieman

Thanks for the ping. Although I seriously doubt if my e-mail had anything to do with it.

model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips; a Glock 10 mm handgun; and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun.

Looks like still no word on which of these actually caused the wounds that killed the kids. Not that it matters but I still want to know. Officially.

I have noticed that it is hard to say and it makes no sense to say “which of these guns killed the kids” I just don’t understand how you can blame this or any killing on a gun.


63 posted on 01/18/2013 3:03:39 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Vendome
I’ve tried pushing the clips through the guide above the port.

Wiggle the brass side to side to loosen it up in the clip wiggle them a bit when you push them in. It is still not easy. I got a scope over mine so I have to load the magazines by hand.

64 posted on 01/18/2013 3:06:19 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: headstamp 2

I think he had two 15 round clips taped together for rapid changeout, thus they may be referring to them as 30 round clips.


65 posted on 01/18/2013 3:08:14 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: onyx

On the bright side, maybe the fact that they accepted all of those orders shows they have confidence this “Assault” ban will go no where.


66 posted on 01/18/2013 3:10:29 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: TigersEye
I was just thinking that. Watched part of the conspiracy video going around, which contends the rifle was found in the car. I thought the way a cop was working the action was wrong for an AR15; this shotgun's design explains that movement. A recurring point of conspiracy theories is the presumption that tenuous information gathered in haste is perfect and complete, and that the theorist's understanding thereof is perfect and complete.
67 posted on 01/18/2013 3:11:01 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You got an answer right here. Deal with it.


68 posted on 01/18/2013 3:11:31 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

What is your connection to the Sandy Hook incident and/or its law enforcement?


69 posted on 01/18/2013 3:18:37 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Uncle Chip
You got an answer right here. Deal with it.

The answer is you have to rely on Alinsky tactics to get you non points across?

70 posted on 01/18/2013 3:19:38 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ctdonath2
Well put. Given NBCs reporting on the Trayvon/Zimmerman case I'm amazed
anyone would trust them to report what compass point to expect a sunrise.
71 posted on 01/18/2013 3:22:08 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: combat_boots

None


72 posted on 01/18/2013 3:23:10 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Iscool

I don’t know it’s pretty grainy. I saw a video yesterday i think where a cop was unloading shot shells from a shotgun in the trunk. He didn’t take any particular care, it looked like to me, as far a finger prints, evidence, whatever. Now I see this one and there are guys in Haz-mat suits looking like they are handling nuclear waste(and no i’m not saying they are actually handling nuclear waste i’m saying they are being careful. you know who you are) The cop in uniform looks like he gets something out and moves up screen to what would be the left of the car. Then the 2 hazmat guys pull 2 of something out of the trunk. The better look is to the second guy the one in back. That does not look like a shotgun. Actually I see a flash hider. But it is very grainy, dark and hard to see.


73 posted on 01/18/2013 3:24:11 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Anyone else noticed that the authorities have yet to tell us one simple fact: Did Nancy Lanza own a gun safe, and if she did, was it used, or was her son able to defeat it, or somehow glean the combination.
74 posted on 01/18/2013 3:26:20 PM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ctdonath2
information gathered in haste is perfect and complete, and that the theorist's understanding thereof is perfect and complete.

That's very true and I agree.

The confusion is multiplied though when the initial reports came from the Feds. One would think the Fed would not release unverified information.

It is curious though that these weapons in the trunk were discovered early that morning yet they were not removed or secured until later that night.

Vance said they were secured in his mid day press conference....while they were still in the trunk?

Why would they let weapons stay in a trunk of a car all day, is that normal procedure?

75 posted on 01/18/2013 3:26:39 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m sorry, I didn’t know that you were a Sandy Hook Truther. However if you can’t take a little rain and a little humor in your land of de Nile then that is your problem.


76 posted on 01/18/2013 3:29:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

What are your unanswered questions regarding Sandy Hook?


77 posted on 01/18/2013 3:30:34 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hi!

As far as I know, and I maybe wrong. No mainstream manfacturer, there may be some, but no “name” manufacturer, produces a 15 round clip. Besides that, no ar-15, That I know of, is clip fed. I’m sure someone can google something and tell me I am wrong.

WHEW!!!

Oh, no one produces 15 round magazines either. AFAIK


78 posted on 01/18/2013 3:32:10 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
'Why would they let weapons stay in a trunk of a car all day, is that normal procedure? '

I don't know if they knew that was 'his' car until the end of the day. The most obvious thing would be to secure the area, get first aid. Then begin the investigation. Every room had to be cleared. The process can take some time.

79 posted on 01/18/2013 3:32:23 PM PST by Theoria
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To: ken5050
Did Nancy Lanza own a gun safe, and if she did, was it used, or was her son able to defeat it, or somehow glean the combination.

Good question, I haven't heard or read a word about it.

Lot's of un answered questions on this case as far as I am concerned....and it doesn't help when you have to question the veracity of every new "fact" that gets released. I don't trust them as far as I can spit.

80 posted on 01/18/2013 3:32:23 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: saleman

You can pick up 15 rounders. Midway sells them. I suspect they are out there for some state hunting guidelines. Dunno, but it is not a standard carry.


81 posted on 01/18/2013 3:36:32 PM PST by Theoria
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To: saleman

There are some decent pics here about half way down the page.

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2012/12/proof-smoking-guns-sandy-hook-school.html


82 posted on 01/18/2013 3:37:01 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

It’s an amazing firearm and platform. And it’s experiencing a renaissance as glock started making the SF versions that could be held by normal sized hands and shooters have caught on to the fact that it’s between a .357mag and a .41mag in energy with 10-15 rounds with felt recoil comparable to the .40S&W because of the heavier slides. From what I’ve heard, glock is shipping a lot of the g29SF and g20SF platforms.


83 posted on 01/18/2013 3:38:06 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Theoria
That’t the thing though, discovering what was in the trunk happened first thing that morning. Even Vance talked about it in his mid day presser.

And they always immediately look for cars and search them for potential bombs.

84 posted on 01/18/2013 3:40:00 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ken5050
I'm guessing that she did have a gun vault because otherwise they would have jumped on it.

Put a gun to her head, I'm sure she'd tell him the combo.

We don't even know when she was shot, do we?? All we know is that she was shot in the face.

I think they're lying about a lot of things.

And I'm furious that Gabby came to Town and that the facts about Loughner's agenda were kept quiet.

And Damn it....Please explain to folks that the Bushmaster 223 is not a friggin' machine gun....it's a one pull = one shot, very ordinary long gun.

85 posted on 01/18/2013 3:40:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Las Vegas Ron
One would think the Fed would not release unverified information.

Are you referring to the same Feds who released all that unverified information on Fast and Furious and Benghazzi ???.

86 posted on 01/18/2013 3:43:45 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Actually, his tone and dogged persistence are telling. Take a look at the number of posts on the topic from this guy. It’s not quite normal.


87 posted on 01/18/2013 3:44:21 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“”According to a reliable local law enforcement source, Adam Lanza attempted to destroy all his computer equipment to prevent any tracing of his Internet usage and his electronic correspondence. It is thought that “some or most” of the computer data will be retrieved from the damaged equipment.”

One little problem. The ‘tracks’ of anyone’s INTERNET USAGE are not on your computer, they are on the ISP logs. Even his EMAILS are not stored on his computer, they are stored on some the servers of whatever email service you use.

PLUS... destroying a hard drive is a very difficult task. I wanted the magnets out of two hard drives, and it took a VICE, HAMMER, CHISEL, SCREWDRIVERS, and TWO DAYS to get them out.


88 posted on 01/18/2013 3:48:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Theoria
Yea. Figures. Our state is 10 rd for hunting. I've actually seen 5 rounders. 20 and 30 are more standard tho. Course you can modify 20 or 30 rounders to just hold 15 or however many you want. I actually like my straight 20’s the best. Don't get in the way like the 30’s can.

That dude in Aurora supposedly had 100 rd mag. Those are very expensive and notoriously unreliable.Not to mention heavy fully loaded. His weapon jammed and some have blamed it on the AR. Most stoppages are caused by the magazine. In my experience.

89 posted on 01/18/2013 3:50:08 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
a 10mm glock? they exist (Glock G20) but that is an odd weapon.

I own a G20 and a G29.

What I find interesting that Adam Lanza's MOTHER would have one. Not many women will buy and shoot a 10mm. Same with the shotgun.

Wonder if she got them from her ex?

90 posted on 01/18/2013 3:50:28 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: JaguarXKE
There were weapons used in the investigation?

It's right there in black and white.
91 posted on 01/18/2013 3:51:40 PM PST by 762X51
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yup, I agree.


92 posted on 01/18/2013 3:52:19 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: saleman

“I just don’t understand how you can blame this or any killing on a gun.”

You can’t blame it on the gun, and that’s why I think the whole attempt by some of these conspiracy theorists to deny the official line about the AR being the murder weapon is just plain silly. Whether it was the handguns, the AR, the shotgun, or a musket, our counterarguments against the liberals should be the same. Otherwise, if we don’t have the nerve to stop an “assault weapons” ban, just because someone used an AR-15 to kill some children, then they are going to be banned sooner or later. If it hadn’t happened this time, it would happen in a few years, and we would just get rolled over then instead of now.


93 posted on 01/18/2013 3:55:52 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Chip
Are you referring to the same Feds who released all that unverified information on Fast and Furious and Benghazzi ???.

Um, in the context of my post, yes, most would think the feds know the difference between a AR 15 and a shot gun.

As far as the BS on Benghazi, that came straight from the top, just a tad different then low level fibbies running around a shooting scene.

94 posted on 01/18/2013 3:56:07 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Uncle Chip

How old are you, 15?

Alinsky your hero or sumthin?


95 posted on 01/18/2013 3:57:57 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Uncle Chip

Memo to the fact checkers at the Bee: the rifle and pistols use MAGAZINES, not “clips”.


96 posted on 01/18/2013 3:59:02 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
I don't own one, but have fired one. True that they are a fight stopper. Just a weird caliber for Mom to have had in her arsenal.

Back in the 1990s, 10mm were all the rage. A buddy of mine had a S&W chambered in 10mm. They seem to have fallen by the wayside in recent years back to more common calibers.

97 posted on 01/18/2013 3:59:59 PM PST by Drew68
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To: mountainlion

This is my rifle
this is my gun
This one is for shooting
This one is for fun

Sound off 1,2,3,4


98 posted on 01/18/2013 4:03:19 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Noamie
When i read “clip” instead of “magazine” i knew I was gonna get some real deets

I'm used to it by now. Just like reading "loose" for "lose" on FR.

99 posted on 01/18/2013 4:09:43 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: combat_boots
What are your unanswered questions regarding Sandy Hook?

Most have been answered by the facts, testimonies, press conferences, tapes, etc.

But here are three that remain unanswered:

How can supposedly intelligent people fail to discern the facts from the same evidence available to me or anyone. ???

Do they think that this town of 28,000 much less the families of the 26 dead are going to let the police slip anything under the rug???

Why is it so hard to accept the fact that 26 people died by means of an Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle???

100 posted on 01/18/2013 4:14:47 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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