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Mock Disaster Training Exercise in Scioto County (Ohio, Bitter Clinger Villain Scapegoats)
WSAZ News Channel 3 ^ | January 17, 2013 | Bill Murray

Posted on 01/19/2013 6:44:27 AM PST by Travis McGee

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To: HiTech RedNeck
With 99% of the news media reporting the exact same lie you don't need to be a heavy weight.

The only thing that prevented it from happening in 2010 with the fertilizer car bomb in NYC was the bomb was a dud.

Had that bomb gone off you probably wouldn't be reading this right now.

The left has never lied to themselves.

They knew they could obtain limited power without violence but they couldn't obtain absolute power without violence much less keep that power without violence.

If the left doesn't seize absolute power right now they're toast. They simply can't keep up the lies for 2 more years much less 4 more years.

Blaming Bush might have worked for 4 years but it won't work anymore.

51 posted on 01/19/2013 9:01:59 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Travis McGee
This is simply disgusting. How quickly do the “attacks” follow the scapegoating? This has DHS planning written all over it.
52 posted on 01/19/2013 9:07:30 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: DuncanWaring; Chode; Travis McGee; Kartographer

There have been warnings and speculations about how cities & neighborhoods will deteriorate when the SHTF. Our small rural community recently had a grand opening for the new Goodwill store. A nurse we know went there during her lunch break and said it was pandamonium. Everything short of actual fist fights. For the opening of a GOODWILL store.


53 posted on 01/19/2013 9:09:18 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Travis McGee

Note that the National Guard was a willing participant. They cannot be counted on to refuse firing on their neighbors once we have been sufficiently vilified.

CW2 has started already. Do we fight back or do we slip on the chains of slavery?


54 posted on 01/19/2013 9:14:32 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Travis McGee

Do any of the talk show people ever discuss this villification via “domestic terrorist” labeling, war games and so on? Does anyone touch it? If they don’t, they’re worthless piles of steaming excrement and active enablers of the revolutionary cabal in charge of the government.


55 posted on 01/19/2013 9:17:44 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Travis McGee

The County of my birth. I believe this is the first time I’ve ever seen it in the news.


56 posted on 01/19/2013 9:20:06 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Travis McGee

“Ask the Jews who survived the Holocaust what this preliminary scapegoating portends.”

Good parallel; very fitting.


57 posted on 01/19/2013 9:31:05 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cold Heart
that is NOT a good omen... and a small community no less
58 posted on 01/19/2013 9:43:50 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: staytrue
Perhaps you miss the big picture. It is the scenario and premise that is bogus and telling of the hidden agenda.

They just used a hellhole to play in to not upset people.

59 posted on 01/19/2013 10:17:09 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Travis McGee

I realize that there has to be a “villain” in these training scenarios, and I am concerned that the trend is toward “right wingers”, gun owners, liberty-conscious people, et al. However, what alternatives could they use that would be useful in a training context that would not result in a major backlash among victim advocacy groups? I mean, us white guys are the last remaining group that can’t be considered “victims”. In the binary Marxist world, we are the oppressors, right?

A DHS sponsored training exercise could hardly start with the scenario — “EBT cards fail to function and inner city blacks riot” ... or “OWS protestors march on and burn military recruitment offices and banks”, or “Muslim terrorists take over a school on a suicide mission a la Beslam.” The reactions from the media and victim advocacy groups would be deafening and 24/7 until everyone in the chain of command apologized personally for their insensitivity and underwent 200 hours of sensitivity training.

But if they use otherwise law-abiding whites or gun-owners as the “villain”, they won’t get heat from the press, and we have no advocacy groups to howl at the injustice of it. We retreat to our keyboards and whine to each other, and no one is threatened, no one feels bad for being so insensitive, etc. It’s just so much easier than any of the 10,000 other scenarios that would bring heat on the participants and planners.

I am not saying we shouldn’t be pissed about it, nor that it does not represent a dangerous trend. It’s just so much “easier” than any other alternative.


60 posted on 01/19/2013 12:04:33 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Portsmouth is a “hole”, run down city, meth problems throughout the county (Scioto). Actually lived there for a few years while attending SSU.
The Piketon Atomic Plant (Uranium enrichment) is up the road about 20 miles or so so I can see playing out a terrorist attack with that in mind (NBC survival) but don’t see their justification in labeling it as they did outside of it being “the nature of law enforcement” in the area and education levels.
Again, I come from the area (another hole in the wall 25 miles up river) and I personally just pass this off as “idiots” where most have no idea that there is a big world out there.


61 posted on 01/19/2013 1:00:43 PM PST by METARZAN
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To: METARZAN

And yet liberals are supposedly these globally aware know it alls.


62 posted on 01/19/2013 1:10:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Travis McGee
Evil white racist "Tea Party Terrorists" are being set up as the national scapegoats. Make no mistake, this is deadly serious.

NBC now reports: only handguns used at Sandy Hook school shooting [4 handguns used; not 2.]

63 posted on 01/19/2013 1:31:21 PM PST by archy
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To: Travis McGee
Evil white racist "Tea Party Terrorists" are being set up as the national scapegoats. Make no mistake, this is deadly serious.

Ask the Jews who survived the Holocaust what this preliminary scapegoating portends.

As a matter of fact, Jews are among the targets. The former counterterrorism center at West Point has been taken over by the pro-Shariaists, and is now targeting "right wing" Americans instead.

64 posted on 01/19/2013 1:45:17 PM PST by archy
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To: little jeremiah; archy

I am trying to get all over it. I’ve been on some local radio shows, trying to get audio demos together to get on national shows. Also been writing stuff like “Dear Mr. Security Agent,” etc. I’m trying as hard as I can. The problem is, the process is usually well under way before the scapegoats realize the mortal danger.

Think of Jews in Berlin in 1928 to 1934. Few could believe the danger from the rampant anti-Jewish propaganda of the times.

I’m doing all that I can, I am making photomemes, posting it on Twitter and FB, shoot, I don’t know what else to do!


65 posted on 01/19/2013 3:54:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: doorgunner69

It can also be an internet SNA (social network analysis) probe, to watch the transmission of the news about this deliberate provocation.

IOW, for making enemies lists for future arrests.


66 posted on 01/19/2013 3:55:44 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: spodefly

Nope. I don’t accept that. If “don’t step on toes” is the rational, they have 100+ years of the standard excercise protocal, naming the villains the “Orangeland Liberation Front” or such.

Naming white men, tea party, 2nd Amd supporters etc as teh enemy in West Point papers, War College journals, etc is TOTALLY NEW, and dangerous.


67 posted on 01/19/2013 3:58:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: archy

A hard rain is going to fall.

“You wanna live forever?”

A coward dies a thousand deaths.


68 posted on 01/19/2013 3:59:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh, there is someone who has been trying to tell everyone about these events for years but the idiots here will not say his name.

THANKS FOR POSTING THE TRUTH

69 posted on 01/19/2013 4:03:47 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Travis McGee

You are doing all that a motivated and determined man can do.

Many of us in our small way try to help by posting your articles here and there.

I wonder if any of the standard talk show people (Levin, Rush, anyone?) are even mentioning this. I started listening to Rush in the late 80’s when he was local in Sacramento. He was much different then; I haven’t listened to him in years. Boring and never anything really hard hitting, when I stopped listening years ago.

I wish there were some (one!) real firey Constitutionalist radio talk show person.

Hmm - how’s your speaking voice?

(Seriously!)


70 posted on 01/19/2013 4:21:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Travis McGee
“You wanna live forever?”

Sergeant Major Daly's precise quotation is Daly is said to have been "Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?" to the men in his company prior to charging the Germans during the Battle of Belleau Wood in World War I; Daly claimed he said, "For Christ's sake men—come on! Do you want to live forever?"

By way of motivational mottoes, I prefer my old outfit's, both official and unofficial: Where my horse has trod, grass will never again grow.


71 posted on 01/19/2013 4:21:56 PM PST by archy
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To: Travis McGee
“You wanna live forever?”

Sergeant Major Daly's precise quotation is Daly is said to have been "Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?" to the men in his company prior to charging the Germans during the Battle of Belleau Wood in World War I; Daly claimed he said, "For Christ's sake men—come on! Do you want to live forever?"

By way of motivational mottoes, I prefer my old outfit's, both official and unofficial: Where my horse has trod, grass will never again grow.


72 posted on 01/19/2013 5:04:39 PM PST by archy
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To: archy

That was always a lot of fun for tankers.


73 posted on 01/19/2013 9:03:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: archy

For the archives:

http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/more-battlespace-prep-from-west-point/


74 posted on 01/20/2013 5:11:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; All

The make-believe scenario is timely. Two school employees who are disgruntled over the government’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, plot to use chemical, biological and radiological agents against members of the local community.


Not sure I appreciate the insinuation that two disgruntled school employees, who happen to be upset about the governments plans to infringe upon their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms is sufficient cause to take their agression out on fellow employees and students at the place where they work...

The whole premise is flawed, why not utilize history as a template for drills such as this and stop trying to steer the informationally challenged people in this country to assume that ANYONE who owns guns is a potentiual mass murderer!!!

This is the kind of thing that encourages those of lesser intelligence and mental capacity to seek their 15 minutes of fame in this manner...

Obviously we’ll never convince the media at large to give gunowners a fair shake in any of this, but it is worth noting that once again, the media will never be a friend of law-abiding citizens, ever...Its not newsworthy enough, or need to be balanced, to them...


75 posted on 01/20/2013 6:41:48 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Ahhhhhh, yes, the other side of the pendulum swing..hehehe


76 posted on 01/20/2013 6:46:57 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: spodefly; All

The reason is that we are the ones that are most likely to resist and do so with a credible and identifiable means...

We are a much more credible threat to the establishment than the following...

EBT’ers and OWS’ers are just useful idiots to muddy the waters when the actual crackdown (on people like us) begins...


77 posted on 01/20/2013 7:05:02 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Chode

I did a follow up & went to the store a day later. I have a pretty good handle on our community through contact with law enforcement, medical community, and education community and farmers. Every community has its bad actors & dopers, & grumpy old alcoholics. We all pass by them daily not noticing them, for the most part, because they are under a veneer of civility brought on by the community in general.

The “Grand Opening” brought a lot of them out and concentrated them at one spot and they performed as expected.

In a SHTF situation, they will show up again:)


78 posted on 01/20/2013 2:03:51 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart
well, at least now you know who they all are... take care
79 posted on 01/20/2013 4:00:44 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee

Of course these training propaganda indoctrination plots never include the liberals that are the actual nutcase gunmen.


80 posted on 01/20/2013 4:12:57 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad; archy

I’m wondering if the primary goal of this drill was to do SNA on the distribution of the story iteself, for battlespace prep. The boys and girls down in the fusion centers probably know the answer. But since they all took the same oath to defend the Constitution that we did, I’m sure we have nothing to worry about. Right?


81 posted on 01/21/2013 5:31:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I am not even sure any outside the military take an oath anymore.


82 posted on 01/21/2013 7:56:52 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Here is the email I just received from the author, totally buying the “random and accidental” theory of blaming RKBA advocates.

Matt, hello,

This is an ongoing exercise the OHIO National Guard does on monthly basis, with upcoming drills in the Cincinnati and Dayton areas up next.

No one inferred it’s a crime to disagree with the government. The case presented to them on that day in the “mock disaster” was that two people were creating chemical weapons to try to create a mass casualty event.

The scenario on that day was a disgruntled science teacher who had the brains, and a school custodian, who had the means, to disperse the agent as quickly as possible.

Guns played no role in that exercise at all.

The scenarios change with every exercise, so the soldiers and local law enforcement have no idea what’s happening at the time. It’s an element of surprise in training. If they’re training every month, on the exact same scenario it doesn’t do anyone any good; the exercise just becomes rote.

Next month it could be international terrorists who captured outside a local airport.

It could be at a power plant, where, there are alarms going off and suspicious activity: That activity, in the exercise could turn out to be a false alarm, even in the drill.

Each time it’s different.

The exercise did not take place in a school. It took place in an abandoned city building next to the old Spartan Stadium. The scenario was the catch those responsible before they infiltrated the school.

The National Guard was involved in a chain of command exercise with local law enforcement.

The police arrived on scene, and called the local fire department,. When the fire department realized it was too large to handle or beyond their expertise, the county EMS director and resources were called in,

when that wasn’t enough, the EMS director contacted the state National Guard.

The purpose, with the hundreds there involved, was to show real life protocol in case of some sort of disaster


83 posted on 01/21/2013 10:24:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

As we have said, they’ll never attack a patriotic American, they’ll all them Domestic Terrorists first.


84 posted on 01/21/2013 10:46:51 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Travis McGee
That was always a lot of fun for tankers.

Still is!

85 posted on 01/21/2013 4:53:17 PM PST by archy
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To: Travis McGee

He must be getting a little flak for this because he sent me the exact same message. I didn’t mention anything about guns, or the Tea Party, etc., I just asked for the origination of the scenario, who set it up.


86 posted on 01/23/2013 1:04:08 PM PST by Thorliveshere ( Aupono ac da tafor)
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