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'Numerous' other bodies at Algeria plant (Drudge: All Hostages Dead)
AP ^ | 1/20/2013 | AP

Posted on 01/20/2013 6:53:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625

Algerian bomb squads scouring a gas plant where Islamist militants took dozens of foreign workers hostage found "numerous" new bodies on Sunday as they searched for explosive traps left behind by the attackers, a security official said, a day after a bloody raid ended the four-day siege of the remote desert refinery.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, said the bodies were badly disfigured and difficult to identify.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: algeria; algeriahostagecrisis; alqaeda; blameanothervideo; bp; globaljihad; hostages; islamonazism; libya; mali; naturalgas; obamaforeignpolicy; obamalegacy; waronterror; whywefight
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To: PapaBear3625

The media headlines have been shy of saying that the TERRORISTS MURDERED THE HOSTAGES. Some have kept it vague enough to leave open the possibility that they were killed by the rescue team’s attack.

And recall that John F’in Kerry said that we would HAVE TO ACCEPT a “nuisance” level of terrorism in the world. Odd that the DemocRATS don’t have that same policy towards gun violence when the body counts are far fewer and far less orchestrated from above.


51 posted on 01/20/2013 9:40:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: TNCMAXQ
If Bush were president the media would make this an actual crisis!

If Bush were president there would be a response from the military.

52 posted on 01/20/2013 9:41:33 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: GOPJ

Finally! Yes! You win! All cultures are Not equal, WEST IS BEST! I came to that conclusion quickly after 9-11 and have been saying so ever since. It is an out and out LIE that “all cultures are equally good just different” or that “all religions sprang from Abraham and are sisters”; one of the sisters wants to kill the other two!


53 posted on 01/20/2013 9:50:11 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PapaBear3625

May God rest their souls.

Tatt


54 posted on 01/20/2013 9:50:51 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Toespi

Time for the blind sheik to be disappeared


55 posted on 01/20/2013 9:51:52 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: cripplecreek; All; Arrowhead1952
Call me crazy but my gut tells me that the two events
are far more closely related than we will ever know.
your not crazy; just realistic...0'ButtRanger wants America(ns) to withdrawal from the world economic stage...
He (& his ilk) had given a "Green Light" to the slaughter of Americans overseas..& for that @ home
society, life, liberty and business be danmed! (mean nothing)..
it all must be destroyed to "advance the Marxist revolution"!

You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto interesting at this point.
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.
We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.
10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education"....
thxs, Arrowhead1953

56 posted on 01/20/2013 10:02:33 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Mission accomplished. The O’homo regime put an end to the hostage crises. The hostages are like Benghazi bumps in the road. They are dead and out of the way.
57 posted on 01/20/2013 10:15:32 AM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: PapaBear3625

well... that could have went better


58 posted on 01/20/2013 10:51:57 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I certainly get tired of hearing the old “If this was a Republican, the media would....” but there is no other cathartic relief. What else can we say? How thoroughly corrupt is the media! They are our number 1 enemy. Should we cheer the next time one of them is abused or beheaded by the Muslims?


59 posted on 01/20/2013 10:54:56 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Find out how they got Brietbart and do it to blind sheik.


60 posted on 01/20/2013 10:59:48 AM PST by jch10 (Hey GOP! Only Conservatives get my vote.)
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To: PapaBear3625
This plant is near the Libyan border.

This can be laid at the feet of the Powers/Rice/Clinton doctrine. They went into Libya for "humanitarian" reasons, but probably really to compete with Bush's victory in Iraq.

Now they've got our Ambassador killed and Al Queda spreading into Mali (which was peaceful) and Algeria.

They are trying to keep the US from taking a front-line role but the US is inevitably have to pick up the pace and fight yet ANOTHER war. Nice work girls.

61 posted on 01/20/2013 11:37:07 AM PST by what's up
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To: mylife

The minarets got established during the Zapatero government, which like any radical leftist government, loved Islam. There’s starting to be a pushback, though, and even extremely leftist and heavily Muslim infiltrated places like Catalonia are denying permits and having neighborhood anti-mosque demonstrations.

But I think it may be too late, and in addition, neither France nor Spain is going to get any support from us in fighting the Muslims.


62 posted on 01/20/2013 11:41:33 AM PST by livius
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To: what's up

“They are trying to keep the US from taking a front-line role but the US is inevitably have to pick up the pace and fight yet ANOTHER war. Nice work girls.”


Maybe but I prefer we save the USA by getting out of the Middle East, and start putting the USA economy, reducing our debt and rebuilding what is quickly becoming our third world nation.

I don’t have the solutions but one thing we DO NOT NEED is another multi trillion dollar war. Let those in the ME take care of their own problems. We have more than enough of our own problems. I’m weary of hearing the push to another war. I have the sxxts of the Middle East. We don’t even need their oil.

The only thing for sure about the Middle East is we don’t know anything for sure. They are all scheming and putting forth disinformation.


63 posted on 01/20/2013 11:47:58 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: PapaBear3625
I read an account yesterday that interviewed an Algerian hostage who said the terrorists hunted down some Americans and Brits and killed them right away.

Did any Americans survive?

64 posted on 01/20/2013 12:19:33 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15

The details are quite sketchy. I can tell you this; if this had happened under GW’s watch, the MSM would have been screaming out the death toll of Americans from the moment it was known and wouldn’t stop until the next election.


65 posted on 01/20/2013 12:22:24 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks PapaBear3625. Probably Zero will blame this on Republicans and use it as another pretext to try to suspend the Second Amendment.


66 posted on 01/20/2013 12:30:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: cripplecreek

Except that some of the Benghazi survivors have made contact with the families of those who died. They are spies. They have careers. They have families. They have unfinished business. And some of them were significantly injured.


67 posted on 01/20/2013 12:31:02 PM PST by petitfour
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To: glorgau

Yeah both the terrorists and the “rescuers” considered the hostages “Kaffir”...


68 posted on 01/20/2013 1:24:59 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: petitfour

And why aren’t they testifying?


69 posted on 01/20/2013 1:54:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DCBryan1

Blind sheik. Both are attempts for Obama to negotiate the release of the blind sheik....and failed attempts at that. Look for another AFRICOM terrorist attack soon demanding the release of the sheik.


Yep, Obowelmy has got his tit in a wringer and can’t reach the off switch with all of his “foreign policy” shenanigans.


70 posted on 01/20/2013 1:56:25 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (.Love me or hate me, you will respect me. ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS)
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To: cripplecreek

Do you want spies testifying before Congress?


71 posted on 01/20/2013 2:05:15 PM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour
Do you want spies testifying before Congress?

Yes. Its not all that complicated.
72 posted on 01/20/2013 2:10:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PapaBear3625

My fuller understanding tells me that Obama will stand with the Muslims. Whenever the wind blows. Or something like that.


73 posted on 01/20/2013 3:08:59 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: mylife

The whole Islamic world must be so afraid now that Secretary of State Clinton is recovered from her terrible injuries. She is so smart and so respected around the world that it is unthinkable that terrorist would be emboldened, especially now that President Obama has been reaffirmed for another 4 years. Terrorists must be quaking in fear. That must have been a myth that the American hostages were released by the Iranians as soon as Reagan was inaugurated after defeating Carter years ago. Thanks to Obama Americans are safe again.


74 posted on 01/20/2013 4:21:17 PM PST by campg
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To: yldstrk
We have bad people in our culture too... men who would do the same if they could get away with it. And that's the cultural difference. We condemn torture. Our culture - at least in the past - has had respect for the individual. The better parts of our culture are worth fighting for ...and yeah - we're better.

As far as the distribution of good and bad people in the world - it's probably closer than we'd like to think. But who's pushed forward to lead - and who winds up in prison are the differences we can thank our culture for... So far we've never had a pol pot, a Stalin or a Hitler. God willing we never will... We're culturally superior to most of the world and care about 'the good'... (with some exceptions - slavery was immoral - but we were one of the first cultures in the world to outlaw it. - how we treated the American Indians was shameful... but we tried to make up for it...Nixon was nuts... etc.)

I'm hedging here - but there are some interesting things about some Muslim cultures... not enough to offset the way they always choose thugs to run their countries...not enough to offset the anti semitism or the violence but some worth-while stuff... maybe some other time.

75 posted on 01/20/2013 5:11:22 PM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: PapaBear3625

They never intended for any of the hostages to leave alive.


76 posted on 01/20/2013 5:48:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I thought Al Queda was toast, according to 0.


77 posted on 01/20/2013 5:48:44 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Hostage rescue team uh? They were all infidels, no biggie /s Prayers for the families, now Obama doesn’t have to issue any statements but,” Those Algerian’s uh ahh man, job well done, none of them all looked like mah son Trey-von anyway.”


78 posted on 01/20/2013 9:31:36 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: cripplecreek

To #15 and others. These attacks throughout western Africa are definitely linked by both common goals and interlinked organizations. While the Algerian Al Qaeda/militants/Islamic terrorists have been carrying on a bloody war against the Algerian government, it is a fundamentalist, Taliban-like organization which MEANS that it automatically was seeking ties to like-minded jihadist groups in Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor.

The same for those jihahists and Al Qaeda-linked groups i n Tunisia, Libya, Egypt/Sinai Peninsula, Syria, Morocco (the next major target), Mauritania (a secondary target), and other African countries with majority Moslem populations (including Chad, Niger, Nigeria, etc).

Mali was the number one target because it resembled Afghanistan and Somalia, a weak central government that had only a minute presence in the outerlands, was often corrupt or unskilled at nation ruling, and had a weak army.

The same applies to Yemen (where a bunch of Al Qaeda bombmakers apparently blew themselves up today by accident, aka the original Weather Underground Bombers in the Greenwich Village townhouse in March 1970).

Al Qaeda’s main leadership may have been decimated, but its’ 2nd Lieutenants and Majors have spread out, like a cancer, to infect other countries (per the above) and to unite similarly inclined Moslem extremist groups into an “Al Qaeda Affinity Network”.

The link of “affinity groups” is an old concept from the 1970’s re the PLO/PFLP, Japanese Red Army, IRA,MIR - Argentina, Tupermeros - Uruguay, eventially the Sandinistas, and the Basque ETA of Spain, among others.

This is what is happening again in the Middle East, similar groups with similar religious ideologies unite to attack a common enemy be it the Saudis, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, or Mali.

If the French succeed in defeating the Islamists in Mali, the key question to ask is what kind of information on the organization of the terrorist groups are they getting from captured jihadists?

The few survivors, and those from Algeria (if there were any), and captives taken in Libya, can provide extremely valuable information about the national and international contacts of their leaders and weapons trainers.

That is what we need to look for in the news media (I don’t mean CNN, MSNBC, etc. Fox, maybe, CBS, NBC and ABC, forget about. Look to the BBC channels for better and indepth coverage of Africa. Assuming that there is a French news channel that we can get in the US which might be trustworthy, but then again, they are from the French Left who are never trustworthy).

Also follow the Israeli press - Arutz, Jerusalem Post, Aaron Klein’s columns and Steve Emerson’s “Terrorism Investigative Project” on the internet.

By reading a lot of different sources across the spectrum, you will be able to get a much better picture of what is really going on than you will from our spineless State Department and Hillary Clinton, the two jokes of our foreign policies.

Listen to Hillary’s congressional testimony this week and see what she leaves out, how she dodges certain questions, and how many times she blames a lack of “clear” intelligence one what allowed the killings in Benghazi to take place.

We are now facing several international, but interlinked “jihadist”, Al Qaeda, and possibly Moslem Brotherhood, terrorist movements who move from one country to another like several simultaneous plagues of locust.

The refusal of the Clinton Administration to recognize this in the 1990’s is what has led to this, as well as 9/11 and other attacks on American soil.

The signs were all there, and a few people, esp. in the media, did yeoman’s work in putting the pieces together for their readers, but the Administration totally abdicated their role in having top-notch intelligence operations overseas, and we paid for it in blood.


79 posted on 01/20/2013 10:54:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: livius
For an Islamist terrorist the word “gruesome” does not mean anything. These savages, (and even lower than the lowest form of fecal life)want to die and if they can take (as they called them) “Crusaders” (Christians) with them then fine. I think the time has come to stop differentiating between “moderate” and “radical” Islam. Look how they treat each other. Look how Shiites and Sunnis slaughter each other inside or outside their own mosques. Look at all of North Africa and the rest of the Middle East. Killing and mayhem is cool as they exclaim “Allah Hu Akbar” whether they are getting killed or doing the killing and torturing.

The poor little Palestinian diddums are enjoying a free and open life despite all the limitations in, of all places, Israel where they can protest and vote (tomorrow) so stop bellyaching about “Free Gaza” and “Free Palestine”, compared to their brothers in 22 other Muslim countries, LIFE IS GREAT!

These people and their religion are psychopaths plain and simple and the time has come to stop defining them as either “militants” or angry young men, enough is enough. WESTERNERS, start confronting the problem, head on.

80 posted on 01/20/2013 11:25:44 PM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: PapaBear3625

Obama treats these hostages the same way he treats the US nation. :)


81 posted on 01/20/2013 11:42:02 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Expect oil prices to go straight to the moon. No foreigners are gonna wanna work at Mid-East oil production facilities now and Arabs don't wanna get their hands dirty.

This is gonna hurt BAD.

82 posted on 01/21/2013 12:38:50 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: PapaBear3625

This administation will classify it as workplace violence.


83 posted on 01/21/2013 2:53:12 AM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Good analysis of the situation.


84 posted on 01/21/2013 4:15:23 AM PST by livius
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To: chemicalman
This administation will classify it as workplace violence.

Well then a possible solution would be to designate these overseas production facilities as gun free zones.
85 posted on 01/21/2013 5:42:50 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: livius
Yes, apparently when they realized they weren’t going to get out, they began to kill the hostages one by one, and it was then that the army launched its full attack. The terrorists had wrapped explosive belts on some of the hostages and cord around the necks of others, so I guess they could blow their heads off to make it more gruesome. Mohammed is smiling in Hell.

Islamists stretch my ability to forgive beyond it's breaking point.

There are some people I am not going to shed one tear over for seeing them thrown in the pit.

86 posted on 01/21/2013 6:03:12 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: cripplecreek

I have to agree with you since that was my initial thought. No witnesses left behind.


87 posted on 01/21/2013 7:21:37 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: b4its2late
I thought Al Queda was toast, according to 0.

Dems lie.

88 posted on 01/21/2013 8:42:43 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: cripplecreek

But if you don’t talk about it, nobody will care, so it’s win/win. Why complicate matters?/sarc


89 posted on 01/21/2013 4:33:45 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Like Benghazi, another “CLINTON FAIL!”

Still gonna be our next prez cuz the RINO GOP-e luv her.

90 posted on 01/22/2013 7:54:53 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza would be like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: livius

They never meant to take hostages. It was always an attack to murder as many as possible and if possible, escape.


91 posted on 01/22/2013 11:37:35 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Are you saying there was Oboober double bubble trouble?


92 posted on 01/22/2013 12:00:01 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: YankeeReb
"Why did we go into Libya in the first place?"

EuroOil. Next question...

93 posted on 01/22/2013 3:07:55 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
"Expect oil prices to go straight to the moon. No foreigners are gonna wanna work at Mid-East oil production facilities now and Arabs don't wanna get their hands dirty. This is gonna hurt BAD."

Not until Demand Destruction goes away...gas dropped 12 cents overnight...

94 posted on 01/22/2013 3:11:12 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: tnlibertarian
Always. Bubbles up to be double, triple, quadruple and multiple upon multiple. The confusion was not limited to simply one bubble. It would be too easy. (smile)
95 posted on 01/24/2013 3:36:29 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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