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To: SkyPilot

“To RFEngineer, the DoD has already been cut (in real dollars) by $450 Billion under Obama. Sequestration is $600 Billion on top of that, and even Panetta has said it will “devastate” the armed forces.”

That’s over 10 years, so they aren’t “real dollars” as you claim. It’s really 1/10th of what you claim, isn’t it? Let’s just have honesty here. You are doing the liberal thing - aggregating cuts over 10 years to imply that they are a single year number - which you know they are not.

Is $500Bn not enough? I don’t care what Panetta said. Is $500Bn enough for our national defense?

You can answer “yes or no” or you can not answer by answering in classic bureaucrat fashion, as you are right now.

$500Bn is a lot of money, by the way, don’t you think?


26 posted on 01/20/2013 11:46:56 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
That’s over 10 years, so they aren’t “real dollars” as you claim. It’s really 1/10th of what you claim, isn’t it? Let’s just have honesty here.

The DoD cut made that $450 Billion cut and has already paid dearly for it. Yes, the entire figure is a 10 year figure, and that is $45 Billion per year that the Dod coughed up. Name one other Federal agency that made that kind of real dollar cut? Taps foot.........

These were not "cuts in growth" - they ARE real dollar cuts. You want honesty? That is honesty. The military cut thousands of jobs, canceled many modernization programs, and cut force strength.

Google it if you don't believe me.

Army slashing 8,700 jobs as budget cuts begin

DoD to cut more than just weapons systems

Air Force cutting 13,500 civilian jobs

Sequestration is a ten year, $600 Billion evisceration on top of that $450 Billion.

You can spin this from here to next Sunday, but the baby does not get any less ugly.

I don’t care what Panetta said.

Panetta is a Democrat, working for the worst, most leftist President in American history. Even Panetta could not stomach what Obama and Congress were doing. If you can't accept this fact, that's your problem.

$500Bn is a lot of money, by the way, don’t you think?

Defense is about 18-20% of the Budget before the previous cuts. The DoD does not get that full amount, because the Defense budget is historically larded with pork that has nothing to do with Defense. This happens each and every year. Some AIDS research is in the DoD budget, on top of other garbage. Congress does this because they can get away with it. Factor in sequestration, and it goes down even more. Defense spending today is at historic lows in terms of GDP.

Under Bath House Barry, the DoD budget has shrunk even more than this chart projects. Soon, the DoD will approach about 2.8% GPD.

Is $500Bn not enough?

Lol! You keep repeating that. Try this on for size: during the January "Fiscal Cliff" deal the GOP gave away $200 Billion to the Democrats to extend (yet again!) unemployment benefits. That is ONE giveaway program out of all them that got full funding, sending checks to people to not work. For almost 2 year. And since 2008, we have spent almost 3/4 of a Trillion dollars paying people not work.

This debate is about our national soul. Our priorities, and our future.

Our military might is directly tied to our international standing and our economy. Fools never seem to be able to grasp this.

I think we are just about finished as a nation.

36 posted on 01/20/2013 12:24:29 PM PST by SkyPilot
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