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Utah Sheriffs take stance on gun control
Fox 13 Utah ^ | 20 Jan 2013

Posted on 01/20/2013 7:42:31 PM PST by glock rocks

The Utah Sheriffs' Association has written a strongly worded letter to President Obama on the issue of gun control. Even though the president's executive orders and suggested legislation don't mention confiscating firearms, the sheriffs seem to anticipate such a move. Part of the letter reads, "No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights—in particular Amendment II—has given them." The Sheriffs in 28 of 29 Utah counties have signed the letter, with Jim Winder of Salt Lake County being the only Sheriff not to join in.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda21; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; sheriff; statesrights; utah
Time to take a look at Winder come reelection. Big mistake, no excuse.
1 posted on 01/20/2013 7:42:41 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: glock rocks

While I thank this honorable Sheriff for his support, he needs to realize that the Constitution “gives” us nothing.


2 posted on 01/20/2013 7:47:18 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: glock rocks

In summary, F*** you Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

3 posted on 01/20/2013 7:48:56 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one; glock rocks

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/list-of-sheriffs-standing-up-against-obamas-gun-control-updated/31948/

If you read the comments, more sheriffs have been added.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 7:50:15 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Lurker

No cigar, Lurker.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 7:50:44 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: RC one

Making note: ask Yamhill county Oregon’s Sheriff will follow suit.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 7:53:53 PM PST by my job (Proverbs 18:2 PLEASE, tell us what you REALLY think.)
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sfl


7 posted on 01/20/2013 7:58:16 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: glock rocks

My sheriff’s letter:

Sheriff Gilbertson’s Letter

January 15, 2013

Vice President Joe Biden
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W.
Washington, DC 20501

Dear Mr. Vice President,

As the elected Sheriff of this County, I am saddled with the duty, as well as responsibility, to uphold the Constitution and protect those people who placed their trust in me to do what is right.

I believe in our Constitution and all it stands for. We, you and I, are sworn to protect and defend our Constitution as required through the “Oath of Office”. This same Constitutional form of government provided us with the most privileged, and envied, country in world history.

Someone once said our country would collapse from within, without a shot being fired. No nation in the world can do more damage to the United States than we can inflict upon ourselves. We are keenly aware of just that by the accelerated pace in which our central (federal) government is usurping the Constitution. This lends itself to a much broader discussion, but for brevity sake I remain focused upon the Second, and Tenth Amendment issues.

It is so typical of the “big brother” mentality to punish the masses, for the heinous crimes committed by a few despicable individuals.

The Constitution, and Bill of Rights, guarantees liberties to the people. These documents, as you know, cannot be whisked to the side by regulation or executive order. According to these documents, the Executive and Judicial branches were to have NO lawmaking powers. The question then becomes how is it “executive” orders can be enforced as if they were laws?

As such, any rule, regulation, or executive order repugnant to the constitutional rights of the citizens of this County will be ignored by this Office, nor will this office, or the citizens, allow enforcement of unconstitutional activities by federal officers.

We refuse to participate, or allow our law-abiding citizens to be criminalized through constitutionally repugnant actions by misguided intentions or politicians.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 7:58:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RC one

WOW! The left has known for a hundred years that the key to destroying America is to get hold of the Supreme Court. Now they might start realizing that the real key to destroying America is to get control of the Sheriff’s. Well, give them two hundred years and they will.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 7:59:42 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: little jeremiah

Here’s the current list from the link, maybe more in the comments as noted above.

1. Jackson County, Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman

2. Linn County, Oregon Sheriff Tim Mueller

3. Madison County, Idaho Sheriff Roy Klingler

4. Crook County, Oregon Sheriff Jim Hensley

5. Douglas County, Oregon Sheriff John Hanlin

6. Curry County, Oregon Sheriff John Bishop

7. Livingston County, Missouri Sheriff Steve Cox

8. Smith County, Texas Sheriff Larry Smith

9. Josephine County, Sheriff Gil Gilbertson

10. Madison Count, Alabama Sheriff Blake Dorning

11. Larimer County, Colorado Sheriff Justin Smith

12. Charleston County, South Carolina Sheriff Al Cannon

13. Morgan County, Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin

14. Houston County, Alabama Sheriff Andy Hughes

15. Gilmer County, Georgia Sheriff Stacy Nicholson

16. Pine County, Minnesota Sheriff Robin Cole

17. Grant County, Oregon, Sheriff Glenn Palmer

18. Coos County, Oregon Sheriff Craig Zanni

19. Johnson County, Missouri Sheriff Charles Heiss

20. Martin County, Florida Sheriff Bill Snyder

21. Siskiyou County, Califorhia Sheriff Jon Lopey

22. Humboldt County, Nevada Sheriff Ed Kilgpore

23. Stanislaus County, California Sheriff Adam Christianson

24. Grant County, Oregon Sheriff Glenn Palmer

25. Lawrence County, Missouri Sheriff Bard DeLay

26. Shasta County, California Sheriff Tom Bosenko

27. El Dorado County, California Sheriff John D’Agostini

28. Tehama County, California Sheriff David Hencraft

29. Lassen County, California Sheriff Dean Growden

30. Del Norte County, California Sheriff Dean Wilson

31. Modoc County, California Sheriff Mike Poindexter

32. Mendocino County, California Sheriff Thomas Allman

33. Plumas County, California Sheriff Greg Hagwood

34. Humboldt County, California Sheriff Mike Downey

35. Smith County, Texas Sheriff Larry Smith

36. Madison County Alabama Sheriff Blake Dorning

37. Charleston County South Carolina Sheriff Al Cannon

38. Morgan County Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin

39. Houston County Alabama Sheriff Andy Hughes

40. Gilmer County Georgia Sheriff Stacy Nicholson

41 Canyon County Idaho Sheriff Kieran Donahue

42. Fresno County, California Sheriff Margaret Mims

43. Washington County, Oregon Sheriff Pat Garrett

44. Multnomah County, Washington Sheriff Dan Staton

45. Yavapai County, Arizona Sheriff Scott Mascher

46. Boone County, Kentucky Sheriff Micahel A. Helmig,

47. Clermont County, Ohio Sheriff A.J. Rodenberg

48. Morgan County, Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin

49. Maricopa County, Ariznona Sheriff Joe Arpaio

50. El Paso County, Colorado Sheriff Terry Maketa

51. Weld County, Colorado Sheriff John Cooke

52. Oconee County, Georgia Sheriff Scott Berry

53. Gilmer County, Sheriff Stacy Nicholson

54. Johnson County, Missouri Sheriff Frank Denning

55. Mesa County Colorado Sheriff Stan Hilke

56. Collin County Texas Sheriff Terry Box

57. Spartanburg County, South Carolina Sheriff Chuck Wright

58. Mesa County, Colorado Sheriff Stan Hilkey
New Mexico, 30 of the state’s 33 county Sheriff’s will not enforce Federal Laws that violate the Constitution.


10 posted on 01/20/2013 8:01:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; glock rocks

Sheriffs BUMP!


11 posted on 01/20/2013 8:08:38 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: little jeremiah; Pete-R-Bilt; Joe Boucher; onyx

Resistance is not futile!


12 posted on 01/20/2013 8:08:42 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: glock rocks

Added - “Open self-storage chain in Utah” to the to-do list.


13 posted on 01/20/2013 8:09:11 PM PST by exit82b
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To: Squantos; Eaker; Travis McGee

Ping.


14 posted on 01/20/2013 8:11:29 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: glock rocks

People sowing defeatism make me very angry. WHen I had more time to be on FR I’d hassle ‘em whenever I saw them, if I could.

That’s why I like my tagline.


15 posted on 01/20/2013 8:14:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: exit82b; Pete-R-Bilt; Utah Binger
Added - “Open self-storage chain in Utah” to the to-do list.

Added: remain in Utah, but shitcan 'Winder's reelection' on my to-do list.

16 posted on 01/20/2013 8:24:43 PM PST by glock rocks (Pro Deo et Constitutione - Libertas aut Mors)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Here is originating link with letters and list having now grown to 60+

http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/letters-from-county-sheriffs

Looks like it may have some legs.


17 posted on 01/20/2013 8:28:35 PM PST by Lowell1775
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To: glock rocks; Lurker
Cook's school of the Constitution, based on a fair reading:

The Constitution establishes a Federal Government and limits it's powers. That's the main thing it does.

Some folks complained and wanted a Bill of Rights.

It was debated because why say the government can't do what the Constitution doesn't give it the power to do.

The Constitution doesn't grant any rights. It acknowledges that there are some pre-existing, God-given rights.

It also says that just because some are listed, doesn't limit the rights to those listed.

The Constitution creates the FedGov, and describes it's limits.

That's all it does.

/johnny

18 posted on 01/20/2013 8:47:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lowell1775

Hit the phones people! We can maybe do this on the local level!!

Then go buy more ammo.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 8:59:15 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Lowell1775

A lot of people wrote to Hitler in the early days, to no avail.


20 posted on 01/20/2013 9:00:42 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: glock rocks

Yeah but Joe and his step’n fetch it Precedent don’t listen to anyone but major city and county officials where they have a democratic socialists bunch of sheep that depend on the federalism sugar tit .....

They don’t even read minor cities and counties mail from conservatives.....

The County Sheriff is our best hope at nullification of these executive Orders and other unconstitutional BS.

My opinion....

Stay safe GR !


21 posted on 01/20/2013 9:04:04 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Brad's Gramma

There is a US Supreme court case which says STATES MAY CONFER MORE RIGHTS ON ITS CITIZENS THAN THE US DOES. Maybe state legislation is the wayy to go


22 posted on 01/20/2013 9:28:52 PM PST by amihow
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To: little jeremiah

No Virginiana? =(


23 posted on 01/20/2013 10:17:46 PM PST by caldera599
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To: little jeremiah
11. Larimer County, Colorado Sheriff Justin Smith

Woo hoo!!! That's my man. And he was the second strongest candidate for Sheriff on the 2nd Amendment. But the difference in their positions on that was minimal and Justin had a lot more practical experience.

24 posted on 01/20/2013 10:40:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: caldera599

If you go to the link at the top and read comments, people are adding names. Sheriffs are still signing on.


25 posted on 01/20/2013 10:41:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caldera599

This link:

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/list-of-sheriffs-standing-up-against-obamas-gun-control-updated/31948/


26 posted on 01/20/2013 10:42:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TigersEye

I’m happy that so many Sheriffs from OR and CA are on board. Both OR and CA are actually each two states - the cities, and rural. CA is also divided coast/inland.

My loathing and hatred for leftists is increasing so much I have to sit back in my seat, sort of like in an accelerating airplane before it lifts off....


27 posted on 01/20/2013 10:44:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I was sure glad to see my Sheriff on the list. Now I don’t have to call him and ask him where he stands. I voted for the other guy because of the 2nd Amendment stand he took. But with the gigantic forest fire we had last summer it turned out to be a good thing the guy with the most experience, in that Sheriff’s office, was in charge. Every first responder was tested to the max. Great people! I am very humbled at how professional and dedicated they all are.


28 posted on 01/20/2013 10:52:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: little jeremiah

> My loathing and hatred for leftists is increasing so much I have to sit back in my seat, sort of like in an accelerating airplane before it lifts off....

I’m hoping that at some point in the future a segment of the liberal population finally wake up and realize that their thoughts are not their own and that are being used to accomplish some very evil objectives that will result in a complete tyranny unlike that ever seen before with technology as the weapon and yoke. I think it might suddenly dawn on them that they’ve been used and realize that it will affect them too but it might be too late. These young ones are too naive and trusting of their own government and can be convinced that the guy at the helm is okay just because he smiles and bumps elbows with celebrities.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 10:57:52 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: little jeremiah
I live in South Orange County, supposedly the last coastal Republican enclave in California.

We have a Sheriff that came to power after the scandal that cost Mike Corona his position and his freedom.

The new Sheriff, who came from the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, starting rescinding CCW’s that were issued by Mike Corona. She will only issue a CCW if you are in an occupation that has a high degree of personal security risk, which we all know is one of the things the Framers wrote into the Second Amendment./s

She was Elected and Reelected, while sticking to her anti Second Amendment position, so it looks like Orange County, once the home of the Nixon Western White House, is in the process of falling into the Pit of Liberal Hell.

30 posted on 01/20/2013 11:03:24 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: jsanders2001
Mt FRiend, although I admire your optimism that the Liberal amongst us will have some sort of Epiphany regarding the overreaching power of the Federal Government, I am reminded of a favorite sayings of a former Employee of mine who happened to be a Retired Navy Chief.

Spit in one hand and Wish in the other and see which one fills up first.

31 posted on 01/20/2013 11:11:55 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: jsanders2001

God bless the Sheriffs that are signing on and doing this. We need thousands not just hundreds of letters from the Sheriffs around the country to make a difference. They and most people of any intellect at all realize that the Amendments were added to deal with unjust abuses of the British kings in Engand and that the concepts that they evolved were from over 600 period time frame and well thought out. They work together like a tongue in grove joint. Take away one it weakens the other; those trying to change the 1st and 2nd amendments know what they are doing. Now it seems as though they want to challenge the 5th Amendment if you refuse to incriminate yourself. We have to remove these types of thinkers from our government or they are going to hand these keys to the WH right over to the enemy they haven’t already.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 11:15:59 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: aimhigh

> A lot of people wrote to Hitler in the early days, to no avail.

He also had several assassination attempts and was removed from power very forcefully...: )


33 posted on 01/20/2013 11:20:01 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: little jeremiah

This link has details, such as “response to a citizen”, etc:

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2013/01/19/sheriffs-stand-strong-for-constitution/

Many many thanks, my sheriff is on the list :) **

Says “response to citizen” ;I’d love to get a copy of thathis letter so I can frame it!

** any Freepers in Collin county Texas?


34 posted on 01/21/2013 1:06:07 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Arrgh, “thathis” should be “that”

darn auto insert....


35 posted on 01/21/2013 1:08:02 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: little jeremiah

I notice that Collin County, Texas is on the list. Time to make some calls and find out why Denton County isn’t as well.


36 posted on 01/21/2013 7:10:17 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma
Shouldn't have hit 'post' so soon. To follow up on my previous post, here's what's on the Denton County website:

Gun Control Statement:

As the Sheriff of Denton County, I am sworn to uphold the Constitution of the State of Texas and of the United States.  With the recent events, gun control has become a much more significant and perhaps controversial topic of conversation throughout the U.S.

Gun safety begins with individuals and each person should take measures to insure that the weapons they own are used responsibly.   I plan to continue to uphold the laws as they are in place at this time and will not speculate on what may or may not happen in the future.

Sheriff William B. Travis

 

Not enough IMO.

37 posted on 01/21/2013 7:20:00 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The Constitution creates the FedGov, and describes it's limits. That's all it does.

Lawyers and politicians have subsequently spent the last 200+ years trying to convince us that the Constitution means something that it does not say, and/or says something it does not mean.

38 posted on 01/21/2013 7:22:32 AM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: glock rocks

The Second Amendment did not give us the right to bear arms but prohibited the federal government from infringing the innate right to bear arms for defending one’s self.


39 posted on 01/21/2013 7:31:13 AM PST by monocle
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To: RC one

You can see the Utah Sheriffs letter in PDF format here:

http://utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_files/2nd%20Amendment%20Letter_1.pdf


40 posted on 01/22/2013 2:55:22 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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