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To: livius
If you don’t support anybody because you’re too pure and can’t find a candidate who meets your criteria...then go back to being a Keyboard Kommando, who accomplishes nothing except venting his spleen.

All very well said and kudos for your courage in saying it. As I've always said, if you want someone to govern or legislate precisely as you would, then you need to run yourself. Short of that, we need to stop crucifying our own people for the occassional straying from what we agree with while ignoring the 97% of the rest of the time we're with them and they're with us. The fact is no one is better on fiscal issues and the need to reform the country's entitlement and tax system than Ryan. But unfortunately the country is too stupid to get his vision and voted for the destructive "what's in it for me" parasite vision of the Obamanation.

The purity brigade doesn't understand that sometimes you have to go into strategic retreat to achieve a greater good. Like it or not, Obama had us over a barrel on the fiscal cliff. And with Obama in near total control of the media the blame never would have gone to anyone other than Republicans for going over it. So what then? We hand Congress back to Obama and Pelosi in 2014 so Obama's last 2 years can be a spasm of left wing legislating to up-end what's left of free market capitalism in this country that will never be undone? At least this way we still have a shot at holding the House and getting the Senate so we can mitigate some of the damage Obama is doing and could do if he were in total control. And in the end, we need this debate about tax hikes and lack of spending control to go from the realm of rhetoric and theory and into the realm of practice. Now Obama's got both. Let the nation WITNESS the results---and Obama will have no excuses left.

What do you bet these same carpers are among the 3 million conservatives who sat home drooling on themselves about how they can't vote for a "Mormon and a RINO" rather than voting on election day and now whine that guys like Ryan can't get them everything they want out of an fanatically ideologically-driven president they basically helped re-elect by ignorantly staying home on election day?

63 posted on 01/21/2013 3:18:10 PM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: MissesBush

Exactly. I think Mormonism is a cult akin to Scientology and Romney was certainly a first-class RINO. But I voted for him and even worked for him.

If conservatives had been more united, we could probably have exerted enough pressure to get a better candidate. But since we had so many people who thought Newt Gingrich had been married too many times, others who thought one or another of the candidates wasn’t exactly living the perfect personal life (since ideas didn’t seem to matter for the truly fanatical, only purity of life), we ended up with a Mormon RINO who had been running with his own money since about 2006.

Like Dole, he finally got his turn, and like Dole, he couldn’t turn out the votes.

But what I don’t understand is that why, as you say, with the cliffs before us, conservatives couldn’t understand the strategy. Romney was a horrible candidate, it was conservative weakness and his personal fortune that let him get to that point...but once that has happened, you have to move on.

We’d be a lot better off today if it were Romney being sworn in...instead of a Muslim Marxist America-hating racist.


74 posted on 01/21/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by livius
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