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U.S. Post Office cuts threaten source of black jobs
Reuters ^ | Jan 21, 2013 | Mary Wisniewski

Posted on 01/21/2013 8:29:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard

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To: rlmorel
That box of jars might have broken when your sender dropped it off at the post office.

I remember when we made NIH begin using break resistant glass and plastic flasks and flagons to ship around viruses and diseased tissue samples. They simply couldn't get it through their heads that glass breaks! They were astounded at the need to separate items with cushioning and cardboard.

They were people with multiple doctorates from the finest institutions of learning on the planet, so don't feel bad about it.

I am being helpful. Now, you can be helpful. Demand that safe packaging methods be used. Don't think anybody in the post office, or the common carrier who actually moved the shipment, wanted nasty red stuff all over the place. You want to clear a post office in 10 seconds flat, holler "it's drippling blood" ~ yup, USPS handles that stuff. The other guys avoid it like the plague!

151 posted on 01/23/2013 4:37:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

My hard-earned money will bail out your ridiculously absurd retirement. You belong in the DUmp.


152 posted on 01/23/2013 4:43:42 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: EnquiringMind
Sorry, your money wouldn't bail a turnip out of the back of a pickup truck.

On the other hand my retirement package is secured with several hundred billion dollars in funds dedicated to doing exactly that. It has so much money the US government borrows it regularly rather than raise taxes on your income.

153 posted on 01/23/2013 4:46:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EnquiringMind
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

That's on the postings box ~ do you think you can forbear from violating the rules for just a day or so.

154 posted on 01/23/2013 4:48:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So, report me. You belong in the DUmp, union guy.


155 posted on 01/23/2013 4:51:58 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: rlmorel

You should have brought it back unoppened to the Post Office


156 posted on 01/23/2013 5:14:20 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: muawiyah

My family despises FDR, and everything the dictator represented and his legacy including WWII and his manipulations (this being from close personal knowledge within his admin). The point being made about his position on public employees unions is a matter of history-— to be repeated to every lib AFSCME SEIU or fed employee union BS’er there is, since the activists believe they are the second coming of FDR statists. It does not surprise us that he changed his mind for the usual political reasons, liar that he was, and with his admin rife with communists throughout and labor organizers masquerading as social workers. Pure socialism. If there ever was a demonstration of how busybody govt cannot run a business it is the P.O.- how to ruin what was an essential part of our govt’s real purpose. And it doesn’t have to be this way.

Civil Service, unionized jobs for life, which are rarely “short term” (but if they are, they still have to be paid a pension rather than a termination one time payout) coupled with a deathgrip from the unions in Congress, make it impossible to downsize the number of these positions and reduce the biggest cost elements in the losses. Management that is at a minimum autocratic in reaction to the union fanatics. The internet has not helped the revenue side (try as hard as they did to introduce “e-mail” the PO could not stop the avalanche)

The large up front pension contributions mandated by Congress to fund these pensions at any level is at the behest of unions and unlike the requirements placed on private business pension funding, which has more latitude.

Quite familiar with FERS— the fact it is available for public review doesn’t make it any less onerous— it just makes the PO another big bloated federal department. It would not be a bad thing if the service were privatized and not to obamaomau cronies (make it a stock held company).

Being in the private sector, got little use for govt. bureaucrats— and cannot be convinced they would ever be conservatives. Social ones maybe. Current reference: look what they are doing to the military.


157 posted on 01/23/2013 6:30:41 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: muawiyah

BTW had two uncles who were postmasters— medium sized towns. You are right about the carrier efficiency being changed with automation, and stopping the relay boxes (which were a security issue too). They carry their entire load with them on the route.

Later the “time and motion” studies came in, the routes got shorter and the staffing issues and on and on— the unions were not of any help. And neither was the internet. Many many people miss the old post office. And many even now conduct their business through it still— for example in town here is a guy who sends out health/vitamin products daily to over 40 or 50 customers a home based small business, bulk mail user. So this still continues. Most people also miss or do not know how important 3rd class mail is as revenue vs. decreasing first class, nor do they know about partnering with FedEx. (not so much UPS which is teamsters throughout).


158 posted on 01/23/2013 6:53:26 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
you definitely sound like you are of two minds about all of it. privatization of the mails should be remarkably easy to do but the last folks you'll ever hear call for it are the various express and package service folks ~ 'mostly because my plan, the only viable one, would do a leveraged buy out of both FedEx and UPS (because they've been financially weakened by the Great Obama Recession)

Then, the two airlines would be disposed of ~ while UPS management would be brought in to provide the higher level corporate infrastructure.

Due to the complexity of the field service local management would be retained, 28,000 small offices disposed of, and rural service regularized and expanded.

There are several other grandfathered services I"d have dumped, and guarantee at least one of them would be something you like and would hate to lose, but that's the way the potatoes roll out of the cart when you dump it along side the ditch.

Now, your intense jealousy of the federal retirement system, USPS pays up front for the 1% annuity ~ and all the other agencies are supposed to do that too, but they don't. The revenue feeding into USPS Comes from Reaganesque USER FEES, not from taxes, so those retirements come out of the postage people pay.

There are other payments made directly by the employees, and then there's the Thrift Savings Program.

The source of 100% of the money put in there by postal workers or on their behalf is postage, not taxes.

You want to kvetch about military or nonpostal government employee retirements go talk to somebody else ~

Now, about citing FDR's lies ~ they're still lies and don't get improved with the retelling. However, he did issue an executive order that allowed federal employees to contact their Congressmen.

Your other thoughts on unions are too disjointed to respond to at this time ~ wait until we get 4 feet of snow on the ground and we can go into all that one point at a time ~ for hours and hours and hours.

I"m quite possibly the only Freeper on board these days whose ever passed around union representation cards ~ and that was solely because the guys we were organizing against were criminals!

The old saying that management gets the union it deserves is true ~

159 posted on 01/23/2013 6:54:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: John S Mosby
Podesta is doing that to the military. Remember the Andrea Doria? It was sinking. The all italian crew got to the life boats before the women and children.

Podesta missed the old stereotypes ~ just in case you wanted a motive for his nonsense.

Technically, the government appointees like Podesta are not bureaucrats ~ after all a bureaucrat ought to know something about his own job. None of the Obots has any idea what they're doing.

160 posted on 01/23/2013 6:59:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: John S Mosby
NOTE: OPM follows this sort of thing closely ~ the average age a federal employee is hired is 35.

That means he's only got 21 years to earn any retirement at all worth having, and no more than 30 years work left anyway, and that's not likely to be in the USPS because those are physically demanding jobs.

That means all those government employees were previously in the private sector for an average of 17 years!

161 posted on 01/23/2013 7:01:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EnquiringMind
I probably ought to sue you for damaging my reputation. I"ve never belonged to a union.

Bet that's not your case though ~ I can see you and your buddies standing in line to pay that union dues and buy a number from the factory wiseguy.

162 posted on 01/23/2013 7:06:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; EnquiringMind

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

That’s on the postings box ~ do you think you can forbear from violating the rules for just a day or so.


No personal attacks?????

Almost every post your have ever responded to becomes a personal attack or some demonstration of your own amazing knowledge of how wonderful you are and how dumb everyone else is.


163 posted on 01/24/2013 5:49:48 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

Read your own ‘about’ page someday ~


164 posted on 01/24/2013 6:13:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DH
Forgot to note ~ you sound just like a Democrat ~ 'you didn't do that' ~ remember Obama's little meme ~ that's what you're saying.

Of course I know those things, and if you don't, challenge me ~ resorting to an ad hominum attack just because you own an airline (which probably carries mail) is just sooooooo 'bama!

165 posted on 01/24/2013 6:23:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks.

I wished everyone would read my page. As a matter of fact the first thing they will see is:


The only amendment required to return control of our government back to the people.

Amendment XXVIII (28th.)

The government of the people, and by the people, shall not write or allow any law, directive, or regulation that shall cause, or require , any citizen or entity to purchase or utilize the products, methods, or services of any entity or individual.

D.C.H 1998


That’s freedom!


166 posted on 01/24/2013 8:07:37 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

Frankly I’d thought it ought to be ‘you kids, get off my lawn’


167 posted on 01/24/2013 9:37:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’m that kind of guy too.


168 posted on 01/24/2013 12:41:51 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Lancey Howard

GOP: How about some educatinal vouchers for your kids, pro-marriage welfare policies, self-defense permits and free trade zones?
Rats: uhhhhhhhhh?


169 posted on 02/02/2013 3:23:19 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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