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Watching TV on web is disrupting cable, broadcast worlds
Miami Herald ^ | January 26, 2013 | Glenn Garvin

Posted on 01/26/2013 3:52:18 PM PST by PJ-Comix

Veteran programmer Rob Barnett recently attended a breakfast meeting of television executives where the talk turned, as it almost always does these days, to “disruption,” the industry buzzword for the way new technology is upsetting the TV applecart. From somewhere down the table, he heard a question: “Has anybody here cut the cord?” — that is, dropped cable service in favor of just watching TV through the Internet? Barnett shrugged and raised his hand. “Mine was the only one,” he recalls. “But when it went up, I saw beads of sweat break out on the foreheads of some of the guys across the table.”

When Barnett and 5,000 or so others gather Monday for the National Association of Television Program Executives (NATPE) convention at the Fontainebleau Hotel on Miami Beach, there will be plenty of sweaty foreheads, some acquisitive smiles and — perhaps most numerous — blank looks of confusion. Not since cable turned the old three-channel TV universe on its head in the late 1970s has the industry been in such a state of disoriented befuddlement.

New technologies that give viewers more say in what they watch, where they watch and how much they pay for it are great for consumers. But they’re inducing a collective nervous breakdown among industry executives, who have to figure out new ways to make money in a business facing serious threats to its traditional sources of revenue — advertising and cable-TV subscriptions.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: boycotttimewarner; boycottviacom; cable; cabletv; defundtheleft; enemedia; illusionofchoice; monopoly; pravdamedia; satellitetv; television; veetle; webtv
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To: GeronL

Drudge and Breitbart are in a great position to do that.

I’d guess they could get scripts, the scripts reviewed, and rewritten by pros if they looked good -all for a pittance.
They’d have regular production costs, though maybe they can bypass the unions- maybe not. Then broadcast them on their sites.


101 posted on 01/26/2013 5:45:51 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: re_nortex

Thanks for the link. I hope you don’t mind, but I HAD TO replace the soundtrack with some Led Zeppelin.


102 posted on 01/26/2013 5:47:51 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: DouglasKC

They can’t control the content. You watch what you want and pay for what you want. I pay $41 a month for internet service. I was paying 41+91 and I didn’t have any pay channels. Now I still get Fox(however I have disconnected mentally from the news) and movie channels. I pay $7.99 for Netflix. That’s it. We have hooked up an antenae so we get all the local channels. Bam! Total outlay was $120. Oh and relatively NO COMMERCIALS!!! Downside is sports channels are not up to snuff yet.


103 posted on 01/26/2013 5:50:36 PM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
It was colorful, with nice scenery at least.

Indeed...I just couldn't take my eyes off the beautiful sunset vistas in the video and the horses galloping in the background. :-) <- As of I really needed that?

104 posted on 01/26/2013 5:54:56 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Dallas59

But what are you using for an internet conection?


105 posted on 01/26/2013 6:01:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: re_nortex

The singer was a little too unaffected by the beauty of his surroundings. He had all the engagement of Barack and Michelle Obama kissing.


106 posted on 01/26/2013 6:03:53 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: PJ-Comix

I honestly can’t remember the last time I turned my tv onto cable, satellite, or even digital over the air broadcast.

I’ve been all internet streaming for at least 2 years now.


107 posted on 01/26/2013 6:13:24 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: narses

I’ve got a Roku ... love it. Lots of channels available ... Netflix, JustIn TV, lots of news channels, Hulu, etc. Dropping Uverse this week. Gotta lose that and a couple of other things to make up for my smaller paychecks (thanks, Obama).


108 posted on 01/26/2013 6:15:43 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: GeronL
"Korea has stricter content standards, so they actually have to have a story"

Thank God for that.

109 posted on 01/26/2013 6:20:05 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: PJ-Comix

If I could get my local sports channels over the web I would cancel my TV package in a heart beat and save over a thousand dollars a year.


110 posted on 01/26/2013 6:23:23 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Advil000

That is similar to my set-up: Roku and WD TV.

The newest version of WD TV is wireless.

I also added the WD NAS 3TB hard drive, which is wireless, too. With it, I can broadcast movies/tv programs stored on it directly to the WD TV and my LCD TV.

WD TV handles most common video and audio formats.


111 posted on 01/26/2013 6:24:15 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: PJ-Comix; a fool in paradise

My first introduction to cable TV life experience (is that what they call it?) came rather late and involved getting free cable into my house, I don’t remember how it happened, something to do with the neighbours, though I’ve never done anything illegal (except ________ off my dog, as Robert Mitchum once said). This went on for a while, until the cable company caught it, probably by driving one of their sniffing trucks past my house, and sent me a letter with an offer I couldn’t refuse. But I never watched much TV, so I didn’t think I was stealing (”Yeah!”, I anticipate an answer from Harper Valley PTA, “taking a packet of chewing gum without paying is stealing too!”) In any case, TV sucks. Big time. Under the bus with it!


112 posted on 01/26/2013 6:32:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: narses; All
Three alternatives you can look into to cut cable (from least to most expensive):
1) XBMC [Cost: Free]
2) Roku [Cost: $50]
3) Boxee [Cost: $99]

1)XBMC
Download XBMC on basically any modern computer/Operating system , then download install the repository installer here, then enable the BlueCop repository, then go to Video Add-ons, and install the "Free Cable" addon.
Here's a tutorial.
Xbmc also has plugins for Youtube, Hulu (for free, you don't need to pay for Hulu Plus), Podcasts (Apple's itunes podcast library). The World news Live Plugin, which you can download here gives you Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC, CNBC, France24, Russia Today, Euronews all as a 24/7 live stream.

There's also a Fox News plugin that you can install, installation instructions are here.

2)Roku
Buy a Roku Box, use Netflix ($7.99/month) Hulu Plus $7, Amazon Prime $75/year to watch your TV programs on demand.

3)Boxee
Buy a Boxee box (which lets you watch over-the-air channels) use Netflix ($7.99/month) Hulu Plus $7 to watch your TV programs on demand.

113 posted on 01/26/2013 7:17:36 PM PST by conservativefreak
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To: PJ-Comix
Both COMCAST and Satellite TV have good deals at first but then after about 6 months they jack their prices way up.

That is true for Comcast and DirectTV, but I haven't experienced that with Dish Network.

That said, I have a Roku, am converting my DVD/Bluray collection to mp4, running a Plex server, and subscribe to Netflix.

I'm getting close to 'cutting the cord'.

114 posted on 01/26/2013 7:38:59 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Love my Roku with Netflix.

Gives me more enjoyment per dollar spent, than any other option.


115 posted on 01/26/2013 7:54:03 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: editor-surveyor

AT&T Elite.


116 posted on 01/26/2013 8:36:45 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: GeronL; All

Me, I have been watching a lot of British shows on Torrent.. Besides most of the programming here is based on British shows..


117 posted on 01/26/2013 8:36:54 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: PJ-Comix

It’s not just lower rates - I don’t want 500 channels - many that are leftist propaganda outlets... other culturally offensive. If cable wants to keep me they need to sell by the channel...


118 posted on 01/26/2013 8:45:16 PM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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To: PJ-Comix
Watching TV on web is disrupting cable, broadcast worlds


119 posted on 01/26/2013 8:49:29 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Advil000

The newest Roku plays HD very well, we get terrific sound and pics with it.


120 posted on 01/26/2013 8:51:05 PM PST by Maigret
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To: narses

Somethings don’t stream on Apple tv, Dramafever is one and since we watch it a lot we went with the Roku.


121 posted on 01/26/2013 8:55:19 PM PST by Maigret
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To: UCANSEE2

Thanks, will give Veetle a try.


122 posted on 01/26/2013 10:03:10 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Graybeard58

Be aware that you can probably only do that twice with Comcast. Then they’ll require you to sign a 2 year contract. Been there, done that. Ended up getting DirecTV after 2 consecutive months of price increases. When we went to turn in our Comcast equipment, there was a line out the door of people bringing their equipment back too.


123 posted on 01/26/2013 10:39:22 PM PST by grateful
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To: GeronL

You got that right. I am very close to cancelling all tv service. I spend more time looking for something than watching something.


124 posted on 01/27/2013 2:32:47 AM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: I want the USA back

It is an economic monopoly. There are no exclusive franchises in the United States. And...there was no government money spent building the cable plant across the country.

So if no one wanted to spend the money to overbuild the existing plant...then that iis not the cable companies fault.

So, if you are going to complain, please get the complaint correct. I spent the better part of my life building the cable TV plant in my part of the country.


125 posted on 01/27/2013 6:31:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: I want the USA back

“When the day comes that I can get my favorite channels through the internet or airwaves or however, I dump the cable company. “

As long as you are okay with that costing even more than you pay now, you’ll be happy.

If you have certain networks you really like to have, and certain shows that you really want to watch, then you will have to pay for them. And most likely it will cost more.

For example, most people watch about 10 different channels. If each one cost an average of $6-8 per month (plus high-speed internet access), that is not really saving you anything. If you look at it on a cost per show basis, say $1.00 per show, then it can be even more expensive if you watch a number of series like “24”. Can you imagine if ESPN was only pay-per-view? It’s already the most expensive network for cable operators to carry, and with PPV it would be even more so for most people.

People who cut the cable have a different outlook on TV. They are not tied to certain programs and certain networks that are must-haves, instead they go looking for content and see what they can find.

Bottom line: people who cut the cable generally watch less TV overall than they used to. That’s not a bad thing, either. It’s just that people think they can get only the stuff they want and save money. And it doesn’t really work that way — at least not yet.


126 posted on 01/27/2013 7:20:05 AM PST by webstersII
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To: PJ-Comix; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

TV networks PANIC at this news.

They expect audiences to LEAVE THE FRICKIN’ CHANNEL alone out of couch potato laziness and watch at least the program that follows their big “weekly hit”, if not the same network on all night long.

How can they “hook you” if you have become more pro-active in your viewing habits?


Meanwhile MUSIC listening audiences have become LESS sophisticated. They don’t tune into a real radio STATION they like (where a DJ or some sort of music programmer) is cuing one song to follow another in some sort of progression that thematically or aurally makes “sense”. Nope, “kids” today listen to Pandora or iPod shuffle living life on perpetual “random”.


127 posted on 01/27/2013 7:30:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: PJ-Comix
Not since cable turned the old three-channel TV universe on its head in the late 1970s has the industry been in such a state of disoriented befuddlement.

3 channels or 300, what difference does it make? Most of the cable channels you are paying for are owned by a very small number of companies (DISNEY, VIACOM, Time-Warner-Turner, etc.). It is the illusion of choice.

128 posted on 01/27/2013 7:43:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Jyotishi
Find a channel that shows classic films, commercial free.

Public domain films (and radio shows) from the past here:

http://archive.org/

129 posted on 01/27/2013 7:49:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: PJ-Comix

How many great TV shows in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s were lost because the suits were trying to play scheduling games?

Or how much dreck they’d put before and after hit shows?

And now they’re pushing their soul-destroying agenda ever further, until they’re now in the far-fringe of normality?

Their demise is none too soon.

(Soon as football season’s over, I’m dropping my cable)


130 posted on 01/27/2013 7:53:05 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: PJ-Comix

Roku’s start at $48 at Walmart and Target, and you can also get Blu-Ray players with smart features in them.


131 posted on 01/27/2013 8:22:01 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Thanks, headed to archive.org now.


132 posted on 01/27/2013 9:19:42 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: mrsmith

Yep. I have seen some amazing stuff on the web done by volunteers and amateurs. I have even seen someone remake Toy Story with real toys using the same soundtrack from the movie, it was interesting.


133 posted on 01/27/2013 1:05:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: conservativefreak; narses; PJ-Comix; All
My free cost results varied, this may help to install;

1. Get the Stable XBMC version at the top;
http://xbmc.org/download/

2. Get the Repository Zip File
http://passion-xbmc.org/addons/?Page=View&ID=plugin.program.repo.installer

3. Get the Bluecop Repository Zip file
http://code.google.com/p/bluecop-xbmc-repo/downloads/list

4. XBMC installs the zip files as zips, menu is across middle of XBMC program (go to the far right: System > Settings > Add-ons > “Install From ZIP”);

Add on both Zip files like instructions in middle of this page marked “Free Cable”
http://www.windows7hacker.com/index.php/2012/01/2-alternative-iceflims-xbmc-plugin-that-lets-you-to-stream-videos-and-movies/

a. To install, go to System > Settings > Add-ons > “Install From ZIP” select the repo zip. Once that’s done, make sure restart XBMC.

b. Navigate to System > Settings > Add-ons > “Get Add-ons” > “bluecop Add-on Repository” > Free Cable to install the plugin.

c. Once the plugin has installed go back to main menu > Video > Add-ons > Free Cable.

From here you can select a list of cable providers and stream shows from each of their networks.

(me again) Good luck and good night!

134 posted on 01/27/2013 7:07:20 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: conservativefreak; narses; PJ-Comix; All

Also, I move the ZIP file to the ‘C:’ drive for easy installation access.


135 posted on 01/27/2013 7:10:15 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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136 posted on 01/27/2013 7:28:05 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Son House

Really good.


137 posted on 01/27/2013 8:39:31 PM PST by narses
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To: Son House

Much obliged, bluesman, will try tomorrow on my desktop.


138 posted on 01/27/2013 8:40:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ciexyz

btt


139 posted on 01/28/2013 8:24:03 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: wiseone
what sites,links can you give for watching tv online?

I watch thru my Kindle Fire with an Amazon Prime membership that costs $83. a year incl. tax. I can watch on multiple devices so I also go to Amazon.com on my laptop (using a WiFi connection that goes with my phone)and click on the Amazon Prime link, and I stream film and TV shows on my laptop.

It's true that you have to pay 1.99 for the latest TV eps but you can get them the day after they air. Amazon Prime often offers for free many of the most popular series a year after they air, such as Downton Abbey seasons one and two and BBC's Sherlock seasons one and two. They also have many of my favorite older films for free, such as Gallipoli, the Blue Max, Daniel day-Lewis in Last of the Mohicans.

You Tube often has entire films posted - watch them when you find them because they may get taken down next time you check.

140 posted on 01/28/2013 9:00:02 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Graybeard58

WOO! HOO! I just got off the phone with Comcast. They knocked my cable bill back about $60 per month when I acted like I was terminating service. What they did is give me a Basic cable package BUT they threw in FREE HBO and Showtime which I have now so my cable services really won’t change for 6 months. Of course in 6 months, I will do the same thing again. So just making a simple phone call will save me about $700 per year.


141 posted on 01/28/2013 4:23:05 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

Congrats. I felt a little like a dumass for not doing it sooner but still, cutting my bill in half is great.


142 posted on 01/28/2013 7:39:49 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah, basically they said they were “downgrading” my Cable TV to “Basic” BUT they were throwing in HBO and Showtime for Free for 6 months which means my Cable TV programming is EXACTLY the same as before but for a lot less. Oh, and my Internet speed will be slower but supposedly not noticeable since I don’t do streaming video. If I notice a change, I’ll ask to change back (hopefully keeping my low price via more negotiation).


143 posted on 01/29/2013 4:50:05 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: Terry Mross

Comcast owns NBC and MSNBC. Comcast is a bonefide American Enemy,a card carrying member of the Democrat Party criminal enterprise.


144 posted on 01/29/2013 5:18:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Advil000

Does the WD TV live hub require a hard wired connection between a dedicated computer and the TV?

I ran an old dedicated computer with a 1 TB WD hard drive receiving a wireless internet connection. The computer died and I am now studying the problem. I bought an old ROKU said to be capable of streaming off a local wireless computer but I can’t make it work yet.


145 posted on 01/29/2013 5:27:49 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bert

That ain’t all they own. And look at how many companies ABC owns.


146 posted on 01/29/2013 8:17:00 AM PST by Terry Mross (How long do we have?)
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To: bert

No, it’s optional. The device itself does the playback. You can play back media from its own internal 1TB HD, or from a computer. Your choice.

But it’s not one of those annoying devices that uses your computer to process the video first, no.


147 posted on 01/29/2013 10:32:05 AM PST by Advil000
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To: UCANSEE2
I checked out Veetle.com but couldn't find movies or TV programs.

I'll still mess with it some more.

I did find Broadcast..........

here's the result

My Tucan and Angel Fish are now out there, twirling above my head, for all the world to see. The concept is interesting. Free Republic can be inundated with Freeper live videos. There can be no end to it.

148 posted on 01/30/2013 8:31:44 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Big Giant Head

Of interest. I’m intrigued by the Magic Jack idea for cutting phone, we are currently spending $40/month for our landline.


149 posted on 01/31/2013 5:17:29 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: PJ-Comix

You are misinformed. Do you think you are going to recieve decent internet TV over an ATT dsl line? Do you have u-verse where you are? Only Comcast gives 24mbps speeds at least where I am...these speeds more than enough for internet TV. But Comcast will get 50$/month for internet only.

Currently I am getting TV and internet from Comcast on a “deal”. The best time to get a deal from them is summer for obvious reasons. But I will prolly be going to DSL soon on a deal I got in the mail and cut out the cable TV


150 posted on 01/31/2013 5:37:13 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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