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Rubio, Senate ‘Gang of Eight’ unveil bipartisan immigration deal (Amnesty, H-1B Visas DOUBLED!)
Miami Herald ^ | 1/28/13 | MARC CAPUTO

Posted on 01/28/2013 6:17:14 AM PST by jimbo123

A group of eight Democratic and Republicans senators, including Florida’s Marco Rubio, will officially release a wide-ranging immigration plan Monday that could give a pathway to citizenship, tighten border security and increase guest-worker permits.

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Most controversially, the proposal would give a pathway to residency — and even citizenship — to many of the estimated 11 million immigrants unlawfully in the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnesty2013; bohica; democratvoters; mccain; thanxrinos
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I'm sure the guest worker visa increase was a gift to Sen Menendez so he can import his underage prostitutes from the Dominican Republic instead of his having to fly down there on his donors' corporate jets.
1 posted on 01/28/2013 6:17:19 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Rubio, Senate ‘Gang of Eight’ unveil bipartisan immigration deal

This just highlights that we definitely have a "gang" problem in this country.

Honestly, the ruling elite of both parties will just do what they want, public opinion be damned.
2 posted on 01/28/2013 6:20:39 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: jimbo123

Conservatives love affair with Marco Rubio is about to encounter some rough sailing. As it should.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 6:21:21 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

Whatever is done must NOT include a path to citizenship that includes the right to vote. There must be some penalty for illegal immigration in the first place and this also punishes any politician or party that viewed illegal immigrants as a future voting block.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 6:21:59 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: jimbo123
GANG OF EIGHT.
5 posted on 01/28/2013 6:22:34 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123

Ok, let’s hear from the pandering dummies around here who want to nominate this first term RINO for President just because he’s Hispanic. How do you like him now?


6 posted on 01/28/2013 6:22:42 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: theBuckwheat

The whole reason this bill exists is that both sides ‘think’ they will be getting these votes, so there’s no way it would include a ban on voting. One side is right; our side is wrong.


7 posted on 01/28/2013 6:24:06 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: jimbo123

The only thing wrong with our present immigration laws is the fact they are not enforced.


8 posted on 01/28/2013 6:26:45 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: skeeter

I would like to see what Rubio has to say before I pass judgment. Taking the Miami Herald’s word as gospel is not a good idea. That paper will almost always skew coverage to delight liberals and enrage conservatives.


9 posted on 01/28/2013 6:26:59 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: jimbo123

Doormat RINO/Socialist File.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 6:27:46 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: jimbo123

What part of ‘illegal’ do these Senators and Representatives not understand?

They are putting out the same old canards: enforce border security, yada yada yada.

How did that work out in the previous amnesty bills? Answer: It didn’t, because they never bothered TO enforce the border security.


11 posted on 01/28/2013 6:28:16 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: jimbo123

Rewarding illegal behavior - never a good idea!

If this passes, it marks the end of the “productive phase” of the US and the beginning of the “welfare phase”. Sadly, that’s no exaggeration.


12 posted on 01/28/2013 6:31:50 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: theBuckwheat

I think that we should demand that any path to citizenship require self sufficiency meaning that one can not be receiving public assistance of any kind nor can their dependents as a condition for a citizenship appplication. Also for illegals there should be a penalty of 10 years before they can apply for citizenship. The bar should be set high so we do not continue to produce an alien voting block that is essentially slave labor and a ward of the state.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 6:32:24 AM PST by Maelstorm (You may not believe in the devil but he most certainly believes in you.)
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To: skeeter
“Conservatives love affair with Marco Rubio is about to encounter some rough sailing. As it should.”

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If and when Rubio comes around looking for my vote for President, he can kiss my fat behind. He's another liberal who has betrayed this nation.

We so desperately need a truly conservative third party.

14 posted on 01/28/2013 6:33:46 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: jimbo123

This ought to help with the unemployment here.


15 posted on 01/28/2013 6:35:25 AM PST by Hattie
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To: canuck_conservative

They are all touting one poll which claimed Americans favored a “legal path”. Yet in all prior polls Americans favor deportation. The poll result is pure bull crap.

Making illegal immigrants into citizens is immoral and is national suicide.

And OBAMA is going to enforce the border?????

The illegals themselves, as citizens, will enforce the border?????

Why should any American respect any law after this?


16 posted on 01/28/2013 6:37:30 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: jimbo123

“Bipartisan” implies two DIFFERENT parties.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 6:38:40 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: jimbo123
and increase guest-worker permits.

...and you too can file for a tax return totaling $25,000 for your 16 nephews and nieces under your new worker permit, don't forget now, VOTE DEMOCRATIC, no one's going to know, and IF THEY DO, we have special "rights" we'll extend to our prospect citizens, DON'T WORRY,GET RICH off the American tax payer

18 posted on 01/28/2013 6:38:54 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Boogieman
Ok, let’s hear from the pandering dummies around here who want to nominate this first term RINO for President just because he’s Hispanic. How do you like him now?

Rubio is NO more eligible to be Prez than the a$$hat currently illegally sleeping in the People's White House.

What about Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio Eligibility? https://libertylegalfoundation.org/what-about-mitt-and-marco/

Senator Marco Rubio Not ‘Natural Born Citizen’
http://bobmccarty.com/2012/04/24/senator-marco-rubio-not-natural-born-citizen/

Both of these references inform us that to meet the requirement to be a NBC you have to be born of parents that are US citizens. One of these articles even claims you do not have to be born on US soil like John McCain, BUT both parents have to be US citizens. Rubio, Jindahl, and Hussein do not fit the requirement, no matter what the swooning media tell you.
19 posted on 01/28/2013 6:39:17 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123
..a pathway to citizenship, tighten border security and increase guest-worker permits.

Which of these three will never happen?

20 posted on 01/28/2013 6:42:48 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Boogieman
Ok, let’s hear from the pandering dummies around here who want to nominate this first term RINO for President just because he’s Hispanic. How do you like him now?

Rubio is NO more eligible to be Prez than the a$$hat currently illegally sleeping in the People's White House.

What about Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio Eligibility? https://libertylegalfoundation.org/what-about-mitt-and-marco/

Senator Marco Rubio Not ‘Natural Born Citizen’
http://bobmccarty.com/2012/04/24/senator-marco-rubio-not-natural-born-citizen/

Both of these references inform us that to meet the requirement to be a NBC you have to be born of parents that are US citizens. One of these articles even claims you do not have to be born on US soil like John McCain.
21 posted on 01/28/2013 6:45:11 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123

They will have a fight in the House.

It is NOT over, not even close.


22 posted on 01/28/2013 6:46:58 AM PST by BobL
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To: Boogieman

Hispanics, if we ignore them, will become 95% Democrat voters, just like blacks. Democrats will destroy the Republic. This is simple demographic truth.

We need to address their needs or the Democrats will do so—and then the Democrats will use that electoral advantage to crush individual liberty.

This immigration bill may or may not be useful to that end, but the fact is that people will vote for people who “look like them”...and it sure as hell would help the conservative cause if we actively promoted men like Rubio and Cruz.

They may disappoint us once in a while, but their thinking will be much better than that of a Hitlery....

Overall, I am generally AGAINST promoting Senators to the Executive branch....we would do better to look at our bench of governors.


23 posted on 01/28/2013 6:49:08 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: theBuckwheat
This is amnesty. Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty.

The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

And yes these people will be allowed to vote once they complete their "earned path to citizenship." This country is finished. Amnesty just hastens the process. The Dems will be the permanent majority party if they are not already nationally.

24 posted on 01/28/2013 6:51:13 AM PST by kabar
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To: Cheerio

“One of these articles even claims you do not have to be born on US soil like John McCain. “

You don’t.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 6:53:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jimbo123
FWIW, from NumbersUSA...

A Senate 'Gang of Eight' that includes Republicans Marco Rubio, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Jeff Flake and Democrats Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, and Michael Bennet have reportedly come to an agreement on a comprehensive immigration reform package that would include an amnesty for the nation's 11 million illegal aliens. An agreement between Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) and Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) is also being finalized in the House. CALL YOUR THREE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AT (202) 224-3121 AND TELL THEM "NO AMNESTY."

Tell your Three Members of Congress how ridiculous it is that Members of Congress are rushing on immigration reform just to stay ahead of Pres. Obama's announcement that's expected on Tuesday, Jan. 29. Also tell your Members that an amnesty is premature before E-Verify is mandated, an entry-exit system to track non-immigrant visa holders is complete, and chain migration and the visa lottery have been eliminated.

26 posted on 01/28/2013 6:53:52 AM PST by Jane Long
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“Amnesty, H-1B Visas DOUBLED!”

Many many of the Indians that come in this way stay here. If/when they get citizenship they will vote for Obama types and Democrats same as the Hindus (Indians) already here

This is a formula for national suicide


27 posted on 01/28/2013 6:54:28 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Jane Long

that POS Jeff Flake is out...he lost last November


28 posted on 01/28/2013 6:55:46 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“This immigration bill may or may not be useful to that end, but the fact is that people will vote for people who “look like them”...and it sure as hell would help the conservative cause if we actively promoted men like Rubio and Cruz.”

These wetbacks have NO regard for the laws of our country. They are NOT moral, legal or hold any conservative values. Just like blacks, they will continue to vote for immoral, illegal activities that democrats are known for. Rubio and his ilk are just helping them to get there faster.


29 posted on 01/28/2013 6:58:04 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: jimbo123

I hope the citizenship clause binds this up in the House. Simply put, the law should read that anyone presently here illegally or coming here illegally in the future will be ineligible for citizenship. They didn’t come here to be citizens. They came to work, game the system, put their kids in our schools, use our hospitals, steal our automobiles, join gangs, rape our women and children and kill people, pretty much the same thing Obama voters in the inner cities do, only adding the work. Change a path to citizenship to a path to legal residency as long as illegals can prove that they have worked and lived here for X amount of time without violating our other laws and abusing our welfare.


30 posted on 01/28/2013 6:58:54 AM PST by pallis
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To: ilgipper
The Reps will never get the votes. The Dems would never support amnesty unless they thought they would gain more votes.

If you have the stomach for it, listen to these remarks by Eliseo Medina, the SEIU International Executive Vice President. Truly chilling

31 posted on 01/28/2013 6:59:26 AM PST by kabar
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To: BobL
They will have a fight in the House.

Wrong. Boner already has 200 Democrat votes for Amnesty and 35 or so RINO votes too. He only needs 218 votes to pass amnesty. Amnesty is a done deal in the House according to Boner. He doesn't need more than 18 RINOs to pass it since he already has 200 Democrat votes on his side.
32 posted on 01/28/2013 6:59:43 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Rubio is a DREAM Act-er, too.

All those “Conservatives” who drool over him because he’s brown need their collective heads checked.....


33 posted on 01/28/2013 7:02:30 AM PST by Noamie
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To: jimbo123
PHEW!!!! THAT was CLOSE!!!!

For a second I thought there might be a conservative left in the Republican party!!! Luckily, they are all gone.

34 posted on 01/28/2013 7:06:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Hispanics, if we ignore them, will become 95% Democrat voters, just like blacks. Democrats will destroy the Republic. This is simple demographic truth. We need to address their needs...

What "needs" do they have that are more "needy" than American citizen?

35 posted on 01/28/2013 7:07:24 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Maelstorm
I think that we should demand that any path to citizenship require self sufficiency meaning that one can not be receiving public assistance of any kind nor can their dependents as a condition for a citizenship appplication.

You can demand all you want but there is no way that you will prevent all public assistance from going to them. They will receive food stamps and subsidies to enroll in Obamacare just for starters. Once their status is legalized, it will be extremely difficult legally to prevent them from being treated like all other people legally resident in this country.

Also for illegals there should be a penalty of 10 years before they can apply for citizenship. The bar should be set high so we do not continue to produce an alien voting block that is essentially slave labor and a ward of the state.

I doubt it will ever be ten years. And remember these are essentially the same kinds of people that comprise the 1.2 million LEGAL immigrants who enter annually. They have already changed this country's demographics forever. 87% of legal immigrants are minorities as defined by the USG.


36 posted on 01/28/2013 7:07:30 AM PST by kabar
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To: dennisw
Many many of the Indians that come in this way stay here. If/when they get citizenship they will vote for Obama types and Democrats same as the Hindus (Indians) already here

How will their kids vote? You may want to ask Governor Jindal and Governor Haley.

37 posted on 01/28/2013 7:08:12 AM PST by Kevin C
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To: jimbo123
Boner already has 200 Democrat votes for Amnesty and 35 or so RINO votes too. He only needs 218 votes to pass amnesty.

I fear you're right, based on the few votes they've had thus far. While the Dems may not have won a "majority"... it seems they have won "functional control" of the House. Meaning, they've got enough votes now to combine with squishy RINO's to enact a bunch of legislation that most of us are going to HATE.

The next two years are going to be ROUGH!

38 posted on 01/28/2013 7:11:22 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: BobL

Ryan has already signed on to the Rubio deal. The fix is in. Boehner didn’t appoint Steve King as chairman the House sub-committee on immigration. That was my first clue that there will be a coalition of some Reps and all the Dems to pass this amnesty. This country is finished.


39 posted on 01/28/2013 7:11:29 AM PST by kabar
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To: jimbo123

Where are the nice people were pimping Rubio as the next conservative savior, and what do they have to say about this, I wonder?


40 posted on 01/28/2013 7:15:27 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: skeeter

This however is no surprise. He made noises about this all along. I don’t see this as a betrayal but rather as doing what he’s hinted at all along.
This is why i never approved of him at all.


41 posted on 01/28/2013 7:15:45 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: jimbo123

Doubling H-1b visas in an economic recession/depression is treasonous.


42 posted on 01/28/2013 7:17:29 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kabar; All

The big question: WHO will be the 18 House RINOS to vote with the 200 House RATS to pass this Amnesty bill?

1. Boner
2. Ryan
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?
11. ?
12. ?
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18. ?


43 posted on 01/28/2013 7:18:49 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: wiggen

Its no surprise to me, either, and I’m hoping many conservatives will now stop crowing about Rubio as if he’s one of them. He’s not.


44 posted on 01/28/2013 7:18:58 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

Game, set, match against America.

45 posted on 01/28/2013 7:19:42 AM PST by Theoria
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To: Huskrrrr
“Bipartisan” implies two DIFFERENT parties.

Yep. 4 republican democrats and 4 democrats.
Good cop/bad cop. Both parties want the same thing - power for themselves, wealth for themselves, and a luxurious tax payer paid lifestyle for themselves. (The republicans just work a little slower hoping no one notices)

The new Washington motto: "A government of the government, by the government, and for the government."

46 posted on 01/28/2013 7:20:40 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, how do we “address their needs” without acting like Democrats, eh?


47 posted on 01/28/2013 7:24:28 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
We have a Gay Gang Problem that includes MeCain and his Mini-MeCain butt brother.

I don't hear anyone concerned about closing the damn gate as part of their deal.

48 posted on 01/28/2013 7:28:19 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: SoFloFreeper
Or as a friend once said, “I wouldn't bring that paper in my house to let my dog... on it.”
49 posted on 01/28/2013 7:29:11 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: kabar
This is amnesty.

The first act of an enlightened being is to call things by their correct names. It helps one to see reality.

(If the government is here to protect us, then why are so many people afraid of it?)

50 posted on 01/28/2013 7:29:55 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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