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16-Year-Old Screamed as He Was Hacked to Death With Swords in Central London
The Telegraph ^ | 28 Jan 2013 | Hayley Dixon

Posted on 01/29/2013 9:44:14 PM PST by nickcarraway

A mother was forced to stand at a police cordon and watch as her 16-year-old son bled to death after he was stabbed to death with "swords" in a busy central London street.

The boy, who has not been named, was heard screaming for his life as he was attacked in Lupus street, Pimlico, shortly before 7pm yesterday, eyewitnesses have claimed. He was rushed to hospital where he died from his wounds, becoming the first teenager to be killed in London this year.

Scotland Yard have launched a murder inquiry and said that they are keeping an “open mind” on the motive for the attack.

Witnesses told the Evening Standard that teenager’s mother ran up to the police cordon as paramedics tried to save him.

Steve Russell, 46, a project manager, He said: “She was screaming with grief and shouting her son’s name but they wouldn’t let her through.”

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To: nickcarraway
The victim is believed to be a resident of the Churchill Gardens Estate which is plagued with gang crime and street violence.

The problems in the area have become so bad that the estate has received a lottery grant to improve the area and is taking part in a pilot scheme to give local residents a greater say on improvements.

I suppose I should be astonished that purportedly sane human adults think youth violence is caused by the look and feel of their surroundings.

51 posted on 01/30/2013 6:26:13 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: doc1019

Relevant for us for two reasons: `immigration’ and the 2nd amendment.
These murderous butchers are possibly the feral spawn of legal immigrants Britain allowed in to pay for their ageing citizens’ welfare state. (See: `America Alone’, Steyn)
So, what’s the first thing these hardworking, ambitious newly minted Brits did? They went on welfare themselves while their children roam the streets like characters from `A Clockwork Orange.’
But the important thing is the Brits are diverse, tolerant and inclusive, albeit defenseless bleating sheep. National suicide may not be painless but it brings on many changes, as the song goes.

Brittania, slaves finally. After surviving the Vikings, Spanish Armada and the German Blitz, done in by the Labour party ... Nations die from within, not from without. Gibbon

This is what Barry wants for us. Not as long as we draw breath.


52 posted on 01/30/2013 7:03:04 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: nickcarraway
Was there a light show? Fireworks? Power failures?

In the END....There can be ONLY one!

53 posted on 01/30/2013 7:42:33 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: tumblindice

The ‘original’ immigrants (ie those from the 50’s to the 70’s) were/are quiet, hardworking, law abiding people of various groups who came to the UK to better themselves and took any job going.


54 posted on 01/30/2013 10:03:11 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: raybbr

He will be correct. The biggest gang problem in London is black (afro-caribbean ancestry) youth. Not Muslim.


55 posted on 01/30/2013 10:04:35 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Craftmore

No, “Mormon” doesn’t end with an “m”.

Guess again! Heh, heh, heh.


56 posted on 01/30/2013 10:05:04 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: dinodino

‘and now plan to ban pointed knives in UK kitchens.’

No, they dont. That story was a call from a tiny group of stupid doctors in 2005!. Their call was ignored by the public and by the then Labour govt. Yet this myth persists.

For some (imo shameful) reason, an internet ‘expert’ called Daniel J Mitchell decided to revive the story in December in an article of his, he deliberately made it sound as if it had already happened. IMO as a Brit, it was a shameful lie.


57 posted on 01/30/2013 10:07:55 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Fresh Wind

True, but this incident will have been by black (afro-caribbean ancestried) youth. They are sadly the biggest problem in London crime/youth crime now.


58 posted on 01/30/2013 10:09:38 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: GraceG

As a Brit, I will bet good money on it being black or black-white feral youth. Biggest London youth crime problem.


59 posted on 01/30/2013 10:10:31 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Ron H.

Black youth.
Afro-Caribbean descent.

They are the biggest gang problem in London and have been since the 90’s.


60 posted on 01/30/2013 10:11:40 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: GeronL

Nope, they will be black (caribbean descent) youth. Given the history of recent London gang crime, they are the biggest problem.


61 posted on 01/30/2013 10:13:05 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: AnalogReigns

‘And there are proposals to ban kitchen knives too...’

Nope. See my recent reply to another poster who made the same point.


62 posted on 01/30/2013 10:14:53 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: nickcarraway
This info is confusing. She was forced to stand at the cordoned off area while her son bled to death yet he was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead? Which is it?
63 posted on 01/30/2013 10:21:02 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: nickcarraway

Somebody’s gotta say it - The Amish are in London?


64 posted on 01/30/2013 11:12:00 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: nickcarraway; Travis McGee
mother was forced to stand at a police cordon and watch as her 16-year-old son bled to death after he was stabbed to death with "swords" in a busy central London street.

Good thing she didn't have a gun. Somebody might have gotten hurt or killed.

65 posted on 01/30/2013 11:44:48 AM PST by archy
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To: nickcarraway
....her 16-year-old son bled to death after he was stabbed to death with "swords" in a busy central London street....

I thought that Ronnie and Reggie Kray were dead?


66 posted on 01/30/2013 11:49:32 AM PST by archy
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To: nickcarraway

Yardies?


67 posted on 01/30/2013 11:52:44 AM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: dinodino

“They have had it for a while, and now plan to ban pointed knives in UK kitchens.”
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That is what we need in America, knife control! No knife should have a point that will penetrate anything harder than jelly with less than forty pounds of pressure applied. No knife should have an edge capable of cutting butter at less than 150 degrees Fahrenheit. People don’t need assault knives capable of penetrating cotton t-shirts.


68 posted on 01/30/2013 1:00:25 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: dinodino

And knives capable of slicing through cold marshmallows should be banned, confiscated and destroyed.


69 posted on 01/30/2013 1:02:37 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; HungarianGypsy; neb52; ...

Sword ping!


70 posted on 01/31/2013 10:35:35 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius
I guess England has a way to go to eradicate the "knife culture", just as they have done with the "gun culture". Yet they are close enough to victory that the "cosh culture" is already in the state's crosshairs.

Guns and sharp steel are tricky to manufacture compared to a cosh, which could be as simple as an athletic sock with a few rolls of shillings in it. But by calling it a "culture" I guess they hope to shame people into avoiding it.

The real shame is how they even dumbed-down the common pocket knife so that most ordinary American ones are now considered "assault knives" over there, and can no longer be imported. And pols over there are now lecturing professional chefs and ordinary housewives on "you don't need a kitchen knife that big to cook with, unless you get a permit."

71 posted on 01/31/2013 3:24:07 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: Pontiac

Yup. Problem is, you are making a factual point that relates to actually increasing the chance of saving someone’s life. If that doesn’t happen, though, and the victim dies, people are left with the emotional response.

IOW, you are (correctly) discussing reality, while emotion is far more important to far too many people. Sigh.


72 posted on 01/31/2013 5:35:21 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Ramius

God rest this poor boy with the angels.

Britain has become quite a wild place.


73 posted on 01/31/2013 6:17:53 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: 300winmag
The real shame is how they even dumbed-down the common pocket knife so that most ordinary American ones are now considered "assault knives" over there, and can no longer be imported. And pols over there are now lecturing professional chefs and ordinary housewives on "you don't need a kitchen knife that big to cook with, unless you get a permit."

No kidding. I thought some of the reports I'd heard were maybe stretching things a bit... But no... I looked up some UK government sites for their knife laws... And they're just nuts. Perhaps worst of all, -any- lock back knife is illegal. That's just stupid, and unsafe. A folding knife is legal as long as it is less than 3" and has no lock. So... About the only legal pocket knives are a few of the smaller Swiss Army models. Your basic Buck 110 folder is illegal as it is an "offensive weapon". Ludicrous.

Under these rules even a Leatherman Wave multi tool is an offensive weapon, only because the blades lock open-- without which most folders are decidedly less safe.

Australia has some goofy rules too. An Aussie colleague of mine nearly jumped out of his skin one day when I -snicked- my assisted opener CRKT one day...just to open a box or something. He couldn't wrap his head around the idea that such a thing was perfectly legal. Well... Legal in my home state anyway. I'm not sure about California, where we were at the time. :-)

74 posted on 02/01/2013 3:45:26 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius
Well... Legal in my home state anyway. I'm not sure about California, where we were at the time. :-)

As we've seen with the Second Amendment, laws, and even the Bill of Rights can be conveniently ignored at the whim of statist officials it they interfere with grander plans. At the start of her mis-administration, Jennifer Granholm decreed all assisted-opening knives to be switchblades. Her democRAT attorney general warned her that federal switchblade laws were quite explicit, and left her no wiggle room to call assisted openers "switchblades", because they followed all the federal standards rigorously. Even she backed down, although in today's world she'd probably get away with it, and get tons of praise for her "courage".

I've compared $400 switchblades to $100 assisted-openers, and IMHO the $100 AO beats the $400 switchblade at every step, especially durability and safety of lock-up. I've seen some high-end switchblades from reputable makers that can hold their own against AOs from the same maker, but at hundreds of dollars higher costs and legal hassles.

Japan and England have plenty of sword laws, too, I learned from watching the British original "Antiques Road Show". Great-grandpa's enlisted man's cavalry saber needs to be registered with the local constabulary when you find it, so it can be legally transferred. If it's not blunted, a special permit is needed from the Ministry of Really Sharp Things.

75 posted on 02/02/2013 1:41:23 AM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: nickcarraway
I'm terrible at pic posting but somebody should post a Duncan Macleod pic in full "quickening" mode.
76 posted on 02/02/2013 2:27:22 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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