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The Boy Scouts' 'Braveheart' moment
WND opinion ^ | 02/01/2013 | David Kupelian

Posted on 02/01/2013 7:34:08 AM PST by lost in the snow

The Boy Scouts of America is about to be torn apart.

In one respect, it doesn’t matter what BSA’s board members decide when they meet next week – to change their long-standing policy excluding avowed homosexuals, or not to change their policy. Either way, the Boy Scouts of America will not emerge unscathed. It will be bloodied. It will be hurt. The only question is: When the dust settles, which side will the 100-year-old organization be on? Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/the-boy-scouts-braveheart-moment/#ROuvYRYudoUJSlV2.99

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I think most here will disagree - but anyhow.
I have not let my sons joined the BSA because it does not matter what the oath says the leaders and individual scouts are what matters not the corp. Any time you have a large group in secluded areas, camping or meeting rooms, immoral activities do occur. There is a history of sexual abuse occuring in the BSA. Many persons have been abused during BSA functions. When parents are not at the meetings they are abdicating their responsibilities and risk harm to their kids.


51 posted on 02/01/2013 9:59:12 AM PST by jimfr
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To: lost in the snow

I’ve called and sent letter to National Council, Our area director and Council CEO. Our troop Committee has not discussd this but most of us are Evangelical Christians and home educators. I doubt the conversation will go well for remaining as a scout unit should they take this on. I’ve got two boys at senior ranks, one knocking on the door of Eagle and the other not too far behind.

At the least, I am on record stating that if we do remain, our troop will have ZERO participation in summer camp or other council activities without written assurance that there will be no open homosexuals in camp staff or other troop in attendance.

Here’s a comment I made at Patriot Post in response to Mark Alexander’s letter to his Eagle Scout son.

I am the father of four, two who are Boy Scouts, Life and Star rank. I am also a Scoutmaster. My adult daughters both have told me they want anyone whom they marry to have been Scouts because they are just better. I am sick and disgusted with the behavior of the National Council and agree that to Fall down with honor is better than to cave in in disgrace. In my comment to National and local Scouting executives I told them that as a volunteer, they need us far more than we need them. To destroy the century long heritage of Boy Scouts over capitulation to a loud, obnoxious and small minority is something they should be ashamed of. I am proud to wear the uniform of a Boy Scout Leader. I am proud of my time mentoring these young men and teaching them proper skills so that someday, other young ladies like my daughters may find in them men who are “better.”


52 posted on 02/01/2013 10:01:19 AM PST by cyclotic ( Obama's golden halo is really just a rusted hubcap)
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To: Maelstrom
Homosexuals fantasize about the Boy Scouts.

This move, even as a consideration, was stupid.

Remember the elton John concert where (s)he had guys dressed as Boy scouts on stage grabbing their crotches? Hell, yes this is a fantasy come true for gays:

I don't see the BSA surviving as what it is by even considering this move. Everybody knows how this works. It'll be like the Episcopal and Presbyterian (USA) denominations that voted down gay clergy year after year. Every year, the margin of votes that attempted to stem the gay tide got smaller and smaller until the sodomites won. All real BSA scouts/leaders would be well advised to get out now.

53 posted on 02/01/2013 10:02:18 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: jimfr

A week ago, I would have encouraged you to reconsider. As leaders, we have a solemn charge to protect our scouts and the vast, vast majority of us take it seriously. Youth Protection is a leading protocol that all leaders must take and all parents are encouraged. On every campout, if we have a new parent along, I pull them aside and remind them of the YP protocols. I’ve seen countless leaders walk into a bathroom, see a scout or two in the room and turn around and walk right back out.

Those of us real scout leaders 99.9999999% of us will protect your kids at all cost.

Next week, I may have to give you different advice.


54 posted on 02/01/2013 10:10:41 AM PST by cyclotic ( Obama's golden halo is really just a rusted hubcap)
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To: cyclotic

Agreed , as a SM the function of youth protection is paramount. One aspect of this possible change will be those who quit because they do not want the molestation of one of there troop, done by a homosexual SM/ASM or fellow scout on their conscious.
I for one would feel like I totally failed that scout.


55 posted on 02/01/2013 10:58:14 AM PST by lost in the snow
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To: Phillyred; lost in the snow; Scoutmaster; ArGee

Dear Sirs,

I am deeply distressed, to the point of being physically ill, at the news that the BSA is considering opening membership to adults and young adults who engage in male-on-male sex acts. We all know, from the experience of schools, church, and youth organizations, that allowing males who practice this behavior exposes others to grave danger of molestation. It also guarantees that the lawsuits and financial pain to the organization will only increase, not decrease, in spite of all possible precautions.

Our family includes two adult leaders with over 20 years combined experience. We have six children currently active in Scouting (Boy Scouts, Venturing, Cub Scouts). We looked forward to our other three children’s participation when they reached the appropriate age.

However, I do not see how we can support an organization which, at the highest level, makes a mockery of the first element of the law: A Scout is TRUSTWORTHY. We cannot trust people who will knowingly expose the youth to danger, out of (at best) an ill-judged misinterpretation of “fairness.”

It will be very painful if we have to leave Scouting over this. It has been a terrific experience for all of us, and we make a major contribution in our unit and district. We may have to disappoint friends who have counted on us in leadership for many years, and we would certainly have to disappoint our sons and daughters. This morning, two of my sons were talking about Day Camp for the approaching summer ... and I didn’t know whether to scream, cry, or throw up, thinking of what might happen. Not wanting to do any of those in front of the boys, I simply prayed that the Lord will move the hearts of the Board of Directors to be truly TRUSTWORTHY, placing the good of the boys above every other consideration.

Yours very truly,

Tax-chick


56 posted on 02/01/2013 11:14:09 AM PST by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: Hostage
From WikiPedia:

The BSA holds a Congressional charter under Title 36 of the United States Code,which means that it is one of the comparatively rare "Title 36" corporations in the United States. The 1916 statute of incorporation established this institution amongst a small number of other patriotic and national organizations which are similarly chartered,such as the Girl Scouts of the USA, the American Legion, the Red Cross, Major League Baseball, and the National Academy of Sciences. The federal incorporation was originally construed primarily as an honor, however it does grant the chartered organization some special privileges and rights, including freedom from antitrust and monopoly regulation, and complete control over the organization's symbols and insignia. As example, outside of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, no other youth organizations may use the term "scouts" or "scouting" in their name. The special recognition neither implies nor accords Congress any special control over the BSA, which remains free to function independently.

57 posted on 02/01/2013 11:16:33 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Tax-chick

Your letter was wonderfully written and expressed.

And to back up what you are saying, look at this other organization and their problem with homosexual molesters:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2984221/posts


58 posted on 02/01/2013 11:40:35 AM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: albie

Meaning of Bod? That’s easy. It’s a descriptor of physical form. You know, commonly used like this: “Chuck’s wife has a hot bod!” Sometimes this is combined with “Check out those mudflaps”.

I think Bod also has to do with how fast your modem is when connecting to AOL.


59 posted on 02/01/2013 11:42:29 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: Hostage

Thanks! I edited out some stronger wording, because a Scout is courteous. However, privately, it’s very hard to avoid a reviling judgment regarding the motives of people who would even consider this, having full knowledge of the experience of the Scouts and the Catholic Church.

We cannot keep every homosexual adult or teenager out of Scouting, but we must make every possible effort. They are self-defined by male-on-male sex, and there is simply no place for any sexual activity in a youth organization.

On that last point, if we go on in Scouting, it will be interesting to see how mixed-sex units (Venture Crews) work out. There’s potential for considerable stress there, but on the other hand, some other countries have mixed-sex units that apparently operate smoothly.


60 posted on 02/01/2013 11:52:41 AM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Hostage; All
Who owns the brand, logos, name?

If you mean "Boy Scouts of America" and the specific logo, then it's the Boy Scouts of America in Irving, Texas.

However, Scouting is a worldwide movement that predates the BSA. The BSA is not the only Scouting organization in the U.S. More about that anon.

In most European and many South American countries, there are multiple Scouting organizations, often split by religion or political differences (European countries may have separate Catholic, Protestant, Socialist, Labor Union, and other groups; Germany has more than 100). They are represented at the World Organization of the Scout Movement by one umbrella organization, or simply exist on their own. When I say they are separate groups, they are truly separate groups - not like we have in the U.S.

There is also the World Federation of Independent Scouts.

In the U.S., virtually all Scouts belong to the BSA, which is a member of WOSM. However, we have some Scouts who are part of the Baden-Powell Service Association (which is already co-ed and 'inclusive') and some who are back-to-what-we-did-in-1908 Baden-Powell Scouts' Association (which is part of WFIS - and I don't know where they stand on homosexual leaders).

Anyone can start a Scouting group - just grab Lord Baden-Powell's 1908 Scouting for Boys and do it. Last time I took a formal count (2007), Scouting existed in every country in the world except five.

61 posted on 02/01/2013 11:57:03 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Tax-chick
on the other hand, some other countries have mixed-sex units that apparently operate smoothly.

Outside of the U.S., Scouting is co-ed almost everywhere except Muslim nations.

62 posted on 02/01/2013 11:58:40 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Outside of the U.S., Scouting is co-ed almost everywhere except Muslim nations.

I thought it was something like that. Don't some countries have boys and girls doing the same program, but in separate units? I wish we had that here, for the younger children or for teenagers who want to be in a single-sex unit.

63 posted on 02/01/2013 12:01:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Make it six:

Cuba, North Korea, People's Republic of China, Laos, Myanmar (Burma), and Andorra.

64 posted on 02/01/2013 12:02:38 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I wonder what’s up with Andorra.


65 posted on 02/01/2013 12:03:41 PM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Tax-chick
Don't some countries have boys and girls doing the same program, but in separate units?

Yes, but I can't name one off the top of my head. Some of those become co-ed as they grow older.

66 posted on 02/01/2013 12:12:03 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Tax-chick

Andorra? A principality with a population of less than 90,000. Maybe the Bishop of Urgell and the President of France (co-monarchs of Andorra) don’t believe in Scouting.


67 posted on 02/01/2013 12:18:59 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Scoutmaster

OK... at this point I am beyond mad.

I never heard of the Baden-Powell Service Association. I just googled it. It is basically a BSA like program, similar to the Baden Powell ideals, but allows ANYONE to join, including homosexuals. People who have been reading about the current BSA situation have said, why don’t the homosexuals start there own group- well the already have and have been in operation since 2006.

This current push is for nothing more than to destroy the BSA.


68 posted on 02/01/2013 12:59:42 PM PST by lost in the snow
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To: rcrngroup
15 How do these liberal CEO's get on the Board, when everyone knows that radical political correctness & pro-homo advocacy runs rampant through their veins?

The BSA National office is completely dependent upon corporate charity to maintain ...
1. its programs at the 4 national high adventure bases in MN, NM, FL, and WV.
2. their salaries and benefits
3. keep producing the printed manuals/books which the units use.

Isn't the current CEO the head of the British-based Ernst & Winney (or something spelled like that)?

No. 2 different people at the top of BSA ...
1. Wayne Brock, the chief scout executive (the top BSA professional, who took over on 9/1/2012) and
2. Wayne Perry is the current national (volunteer) president chairman of the BSA national (volunteer) board of directors. He is the owner of the Seattle Mariners. He sold his telecomm business to AT&T a few years ago.
3. James Turley, the CEO of E&W is just a member-at-large on the BSA national board of directors.

How does a Brit libturd (aka. think Piers Morgan) get to sit on the Board of Boy Scout of America and even more ridiculous, is the Chairman of the Board of the BSA?

I have not read anything to indicate that Piers Morgan is a BSA national (volunteer) executive board member.

These non-profit organizations somehow seem to love to pick high-profile RAT bastard liberals & socialists to sit on their Board of Directors, and then sit there with a perplexed look on their faces when the liberal board members start to push their pro-homo / pro-lesbian / pro-Islam / anti-American / anti-Christianity ideologies onto the organizations.

There has been a HUGE sea change in corporate America. The gay mafia, led by the Human Rights Campaign, has successfully "penetrated" the board rooms all across our once fair land.

69 posted on 02/01/2013 1:20:53 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Tax-chick
19 ... but how can we participate in and support an organization that so blatantly abandons its principles ...

1. Don't despair. We can fight back.

2. Work through you local council executive board. They are volunteers. The council pros are compromised because their allegiance is to BSA national.

3. Get all of your volunteer Scouter buddies together and press you case with your local council (volunteer) president. He is the chairman of the council executive board of directors. Demand the resignations of Brock, Stephenson, and Turley.

4. Make it plain that you will stop your FoS (Friends of Scouting) donations and participating in the Trails End Popcorn sales. These fundraisers impact the local councils most - not national. But national will hear about it.

5. Know who your enemy is in your local district - the churches which charter scout units AND support homosexual inclusion. Those churches are (1) TEC, (2) ELCA, (3) PCUSA, (4) UCC, (5) Unitarian/Universalist, (6) Moravian, and (7) DoC-The Christian Church. The UMC is a special case - they are in the midst of an internal struggle on the issue of homosexuality. Just look out for those UMC churches which espouse "social justice" and have a female pastor.

6. Transfer your scouts out of the units in these churches to other units.

70 posted on 02/01/2013 1:33:15 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: lost in the snow

Not just ‘since 2006’. The Scouting For All movement has been around since about 1999. That’s fourteen years that a group could have been creating a competing ‘inclusive’ (deviant sexuality and athiest) group rather than trying to take over the BSA.


71 posted on 02/01/2013 1:36:28 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: Tax-chick
31 Yes, I’ve seen the pictures from the Elton John show. If they don’t repent, it’s going to be a bad, bad eternity for them.

11/28/1999 – The British homosexual rights group, Stonewall, celebrated its 10th anniversary extravaganza at the Albert Hall in London. Pop singer Elton John infuriated British scouting leaders when he appeared on stage with 6 strip-teasing teenagers attired in Cub Scout uniforms. The boys grabbed their crotches and bared themselves down to their skimpy shorts to the tune “It’s a Sin” by the Pet Shop Boys.

72 posted on 02/01/2013 1:36:36 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: CodeToad
38 A major problem is that the 25-40 year old crowd has had massive public school indoctrination to believe homosexuality is normal and they as parents see nothing wrong with boy humpers in the Boy Scouts.

1/10/1963 – U.S. Representative Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read into the Congressional Record the list of 45 communist goals (Appendix, pp. A34-A35) from Cleon Skousen’s 1958 book, The Naked Communist. Goal #26 - Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

73 posted on 02/01/2013 1:40:29 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Oldexpat
43 Maybe it is time for a new BSA. Church supported and sponsored. Forget Corp america..they have sold their souls to the Devil. The BSA could survive with just Churches as sponsors...they might loose a lot of the professional managers, but the organization would survive.

Many, many long-time Scouting volunteers agree with this POV. Of course, there will be a transition period that will be rough. But it can be done. The American Heritage Girls broke from the Girl Scouts USA a few years ago. We can too, if it comes to that.

But first, let's try to torpedo the BSA National Executive Board and the chief scout executive.

74 posted on 02/01/2013 1:45:17 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Hostage
44 Who owns the brand, logos, name? If a vote can be made to sell off these to a new org, then the new org can be started under BSA with the same branding.

Or organizational elements can secede and coalesce around new but similar brands like ‘The United BSA’ or such.

The 1926 Congressional Charter granted to BSA preserved the exclusive right of BSA to use the term "scouting." This has been a very active thread of conversation for years on scouting forums. I can't say much beyond that. To me, the real problem would be access to all of the printed books and manuals.

75 posted on 02/01/2013 1:49:43 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Hostage
48 What is the purpose of a ‘Congressional Charter’?
What benefits derive from such a Charter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_charter

A Congressional charter is a law passed by the United States Congress that states the mission, authority and activities of a group. Congress issued federal charters from 1791 until 1992 under Title 36 of the United States Code.

The relationship between Congress and the organization is largely a symbolic honorific giving the organization the aura of being "officially" sanctioned by the U.S. government. However, Congress does not oversee or supervise organizations with the charter (other than receiving a yearly financial statement). Amid dissatisfaction with the system, the subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee decided not to consider applications for further charters in 1992, though several were still granted thereafter.

… These mostly honorific charters tend "to provide an 'official' imprimatur to their activities, and to that extent it may provide them prestige and indirect financial benefit." Groups that fall into this group are usually veterans’ groups, fraternal groups or youth groups like the USO, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the Boy Scouts of America (charter approved on June 15, 1916) Congress has chartered about 100 fraternal or patriotic groups.

If memory serves me correctly, it provides BSA with the exclusive rights to use the term "scouting".

76 posted on 02/01/2013 1:57:16 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Hostage
48 What is the purpose of a ‘Congressional Charter’?
What benefits derive from such a Charter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_charter

A Congressional charter is a law passed by the United States Congress that states the mission, authority and activities of a group. Congress issued federal charters from 1791 until 1992 under Title 36 of the United States Code.

The relationship between Congress and the organization is largely a symbolic honorific giving the organization the aura of being "officially" sanctioned by the U.S. government. However, Congress does not oversee or supervise organizations with the charter (other than receiving a yearly financial statement). Amid dissatisfaction with the system, the subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee decided not to consider applications for further charters in 1992, though several were still granted thereafter.

… These mostly honorific charters tend "to provide an 'official' imprimatur to their activities, and to that extent it may provide them prestige and indirect financial benefit." Groups that fall into this group are usually veterans’ groups, fraternal groups or youth groups like the USO, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the Boy Scouts of America (charter approved on June 15, 1916) Congress has chartered about 100 fraternal or patriotic groups.

If memory serves me correctly, it provides BSA with the exclusive rights to use the term "scouting".

77 posted on 02/01/2013 2:00:30 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton
Thanks for the good note & clarification!

I was obviously not clear in my rhetorical question as to how a British libturd (aka think Piers Morgan) could sit on the board of BSA. It was meant to indicate how could a British liberal, like James Turley, the CEO of E&W, be on the BOD of BSA. I did not mean to indicate that Piers Morgan was on the BOD of BSA. Poorly phrased comment on my parte. But I may be mistaken here as well, if Turley is not a British citizen, but American. Sorry for the confusion...

And last of all, your statement that .....

There has been a HUGE sea change in corporate America. The gay mafia, led by the Human Rights Campaign, has successfully "penetrated" the board rooms all across our once fair land".

.... is absolutely 100% correct. I work for a very large U.S. & international company who is currently gushing over being in the top 3 of "diversity" companies in the U.S. Makes me wanna puke! Every board member & corporate officer are dyed in the wool, pro-gay, pro-Islamic, pro-anything minority / hate-Christianity / hate America bigots. What a tragedy!

78 posted on 02/01/2013 2:03:30 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: MacNaughton
The 1926 Congressional Charter granted to BSA preserved the exclusive right of BSA to use the term "scouting."

I did not realize that. Thanks.

It would be interesting to see that tested, given that 'Scouting' existed in many countries before the U.S. and that Scout Troops #1 from Barre, VT, Bala Cynwyd, PA, and Pawhuska, OK, pre-date the founding of the BSA.

79 posted on 02/01/2013 2:05:05 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I've fixed my problem with procrastination; just wait and see.)
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To: jimfr
51 I think most here will disagree - but anyhow. I have not let my sons joined the BSA because it does not matter what the oath says the leaders and individual scouts are what matters not the corp. Any time you have a large group in secluded areas, camping or meeting rooms, immoral activities do occur. There is a history of sexual abuse occuring in the BSA. Many persons have been abused during BSA functions. When parents are not at the meetings they are abdicating their responsibilities and risk harm to their kids.

Yes, there is a history of homosexual molestation within BSA. But BSA has worked hard to implement safeguards and training over the last 20 years to reduce the risk. You are right about parents abdicating responsibilites. Scouting units always need new parents, especially men/fathers, to help with the unit program.

80 posted on 02/01/2013 2:05:31 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Yep, straight down the Communist checklist.


81 posted on 02/01/2013 2:07:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: lost in the snow
Now this is an example of how it should be done ... a message from the council scout executive of the Golden Spread Council BSA, 401 Tascosa Road, Amarillo, TX.

http://goldenspread.org/ImportantMessageFromAndyPrice.pdf

Statement
On January 30, 2013, the Executive Committee of the Golden Spread Council, Boy Scouts of America, serving 26 counties in the Texas and Oklahoma panhandles, met to discuss the proposed resolution scheduled to be considered by the National Board to remove the membership restriction regarding sexual orientation and allow gay and lesbian members.

By unanimous vote, the Golden Spread Board directed a letter be sent to the National Council denouncing this resolution as poorly thought out and against the values that Scouting has sought to instill in youth and adults for more than 100 years. A formal resolution was also passed opposing any change.

The stance of the Golden Spread Council Executive Board is that current membership standards are necessary for the safe operation of Scouting activities, camps and unit operations, and are in the best interest of serving today’s youth.

The Board of the Golden Spread Council is against a change in membership standards.

It is understood that a vote on this issue may happen at the February 6th, Executive Board Meeting. All who wish to share their concerns on the topic are encouraged to contact Wayne Brock, Chief Scout Executive (wayne.brock@scouting.org) or call the National Office (972-580-2330). There is an additional email address set up to accept concerns: nationalsupportcenter@scouting.org. Additionally, a list of National Executive Board members can be found at wikipedia.com. These volunteers will be the ones who vote on the resolution.

Local volunteer leaders who need support to discuss this topic with their Scouts and Scouts’ parents should visit goldenspread.org for additional materials. Information will be posted no later than February 1, 2013 on the homepage.

82 posted on 02/01/2013 4:35:56 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Our Troop/Pack/Crew are chartered by a Catholic Church, although not all our members are parishioners, and we are most likely to partner with another Catholic Church when we we want to do bigger events. (Our Troop is <20 members and Pack around 35.) Some of our parishioners are involved in Troops at Methodist Churches, which are on practically every corner here, but they are redneck NRA Methodists, not “so open-minded our brains fell out” Methodists.

It’s not the safety of my own boys that concerns me. My 16-year-old is more than a match for any predator (6’2”, 250 lbs., 1560 PSAT score, debater), and a parent is always at events with the Cub Scouts. For Boy Scout summer camp, the troop goes as a group with their own leaders and chaperones and sets up their own camp.

My family hasn’t participated in popcorn sales for several years, because with so many children we just can’t get organized enough! If it comes to it, depending on what our Council says, I’d tell the Council we’re not making a FoS donation, but instead will contribute cash directly to our own units.

I was ready to despair, but sending the letter made me feel better. I’d hate to be at Mass on Scout Sunday crying all over my Tiger Cub - it would make my nose run and embarass him!


83 posted on 02/01/2013 5:34:02 PM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: lost in the snow
For those who want to know more about the BSA National Executive Board ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Executive_Board_of_the_Boy_Scouts_of_America
The National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America governs the Boy Scouts of America organization. One source reports that there were 72 members of the board in 2001.[1]

The board is led by the national president, a volunteer elected by the National Council (that means the professionals). Board members included regular elected members, regional presidents, and up to 5 appointed youth members. The Chief Scout Executive is the board secretary and non-voting member. The National Executive Board has a number of standing committees that correspond to the professional staff organization of the National Council.

The statute authorizing the federal charter[2] (36 USC 309) (Congressional Charter, issued on 6/15/1926) to the BSA provides that "An executive board composed of citizens of the United States is the governing body of the corporation. The number, qualifications, and term of office of members of the board are as provided in the bylaws. A vacancy on the board shall be filled by a majority vote of the remaining members of the board."[2] The Executive Board is also required to hold annual meetings and to submit annual reports to the US Congress. (Traditionally this is hand-delivered to the Honorary President at the White House by a BSA delegation. This traditionally happens sometime in FEB, close to BSA's founding anniversary - 2/08/2010. POTUS #44 BHO's State of the Union Address is later than normal this year - 2/12/2013 - coincidence?)

BSA’s 2011 Annual Report – 46 pages
http://www.scouting.org/filestore/media/324-168.pdf

Bylaws provide that membership will include: [3]

1. Up to 64 regular members, elected annually at annual National Council meetings.
2. Regional presidents; currently there are four BSA regions: —Western, Central, Southern and Northeast.
3. 2 special members: The chairman of the Advisory Council and the chairman of the Board of Regents of the National Eagle Scout Association are members.
4. Up to 5 youth members, appointed by the BSA President

Per the by-laws, the executive committee is:

1. the President , currently Wayne M. Perry (owner, Seattle Mariners)
2. the immediate past-President, currently Rex Tillerson (CEO, ExxonMobil)
3. the executive vice-president and the vice-presidents. In 2011, BSA vice presidents included Terrence P. Dunn, Randall L. Stephenson (CEO, AT&T), Lyle R. Knight, Nathan O. Rosenberg, Jack D. Furst, O. Temple Sloan Jr., Earl G. Graves, Drayton McLane Jr., Bruce D. Parker, Matthew K. Rose, Henry A. Rosenberg Jr.
4. the regional presidents, Stephen B. King (Central), Arthur F. Oppenheimer (Western), Robert J. Smith (North-East), David M. Weekley (Southern)
5. the international commissioner, Jim Turley (CEO, Ernst & Whitney)
6. the national commissioner, Hector Perez
7. the treasurer, Aubrey B. Harwell Jr
8. the assistant treasurers, R. Thomas Buffenbarger
9. the chairman of the Advisory Council, R. Michael Daniel
10. the Chief Scout Executive, Wayne Brock

The board is required to hold annual meetings. The 2012 National Annual Meeting occurred May 30–June 1 at the Gaylord Palms Resort & Convention Center in Kissimmee, Florida. The 2013 National Annual meeting is scheduled for May 22-24 at the Gaylord Texan Hotel, Grapevine, Texas.[8]

84 posted on 02/01/2013 5:34:53 PM PST by MacNaughton
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83 ... I was ready to despair, but sending the letter made me feel better. I’d hate to be at Mass on Scout Sunday crying all over my Tiger Cub - it would make my nose run and embarass him!

Right on! From what I have been reading, the RCC has become very aggressive in implementing additional screening of prospective adult volunteers who want to serve in its scouting units.

God speed and good Scouting!

85 posted on 02/01/2013 5:42:11 PM PST by MacNaughton
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I think the training for all volunteers is extremely important. It literally never occurred to me to worry about sexual predators with my boys until we saw a youth protection video when our oldest son was a Tiger Cub. This was just before the homosexual-molestation issue in the Church hit the news. I’m sure I wasn’t the only parent who wasn’t thinking that way. Maybe I was just very sheltered, although I was alert enough to notice when another pilot in my father’s squadron was putting the moves on me when I was about 16. (He was drunk, too.)

I was a Girl Scout leader for several years, and we never had any issues with any kind of sexual involvement, because everyone in the troop leadership was mothers of the Scouts. We all knew each other, and each of us had two or three daughters all in the unit. It’s similar with our BSA units: everyone knows everyone, we have each other’s kids in Sunday School, a family will have 3, 4, 5 kids all in Scouts. The Venture Crew is pretty new, but most of the members are homeschooled kids, some have been in Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, or Cub Scouts together, a bunch are in the science competitions together. All the teenagers are alert - not just boys about men, but girls about men, and all the boys/girls required to be on a handshake-only basis, not that it’s much of a problem when almost everyone’s mom or dad is there, too!


86 posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:38 PM PST by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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[Warning - Arrest report with very graphic details]
http://www.scribd.com/doc/110542554/Boys-Scouts-of-America-Floyd-David-Slusher-File

FAIL.


87 posted on 02/01/2013 8:20:47 PM PST by TArcher
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I see a couple of comments here about overseas scout groups. I was in Rovers many years ago here in Australia, and both my sons have been in scouts/venturers. The units have been mixed for many years, with very few problems. Female leaders have to be present at activities with female scouts and vice versa for boys. Interestingly, a lot of the scout patrol leaders tend to be girls - they are just more sensible at that age.

As for homosexual leaders and scouts, I knew one leader but never heard of any problems with him.


88 posted on 02/02/2013 12:38:23 PM PST by Figure11 (There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in it or not.)
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