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Posted on 02/02/2013 4:59:15 AM PST by Diogenesis
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Which is why I advocate complete and utter destruction of the liberal Republican party, and dumping it in the wastebin of history, like the Whigs.
I don’t agree with most of her points, but that doesn’t make her a troll. One of our biggest problems here on FR is that instead of discussing things, we shoot people down with insults. Frankly, I’m much more suspicious of the posters who are spewing insults than I am of people who are raising points with which most of us may not agree.
The Dems would like nothing better than for us to break down into a fragmented band of warring individuals, each one convinced he is the only true conservative and ready to obliterate everyone who disagrees with him on a single point. We’ve got to work out a strategy. Nobody can get everything they want, but we aren’t getting anything right now.
It's true that the choice in 2012 was squishy RINO Brown and the leftist Warren. But that's only because the R party in Mass chose the squishy RINO. They need to choose a more conservative candidate even if he/she is libertarian because our biggest problem is the growth of government.
You do not seem to understand that having worked in government. You are in fact part of the problem regardless of your party affiliation. We have the highest taxes (at all levels, local state federal) in the history of the country. We have the highest public and private debt in the history of the country. The federal government invades local issues with liberal and leftist policies. We have to slash government. Scott Brown did not do that, in fact he did the opposite, I linked to his pork votes above.
I agree with that. The problem with people like CGGM is they are always trying to squeeze a bit of juice out of the dried up lemon. There is no doubt that conservatives will fail to get 51 seats as we transition to a new party. There simply won't be enough candidates in enough states and enough votes. The two existing parties will do their best to keep their duopoly (monopoly really). But destroying the squishy party is the only way to obtain a principled party. There are too many CGGMs in the party to do it any other way. It is a long term strategy and in the short term we will have to be a minority party.
It would be wonderful if Scott Brown or Elizabeth Warren could be replaced by a true conservative. Do you think that is possible? Trust me, no one wants smaller government more than I. I admit I cannot create a perfect government, but I can promise you that if it’s done my way, we won’t go backward. I will NEVER surrender to a Democrat—NEVER!!
I am in 100% agreement with you. Thank you.
I have no respect for this mindset. Obama is pure evil and Romney would have been far preferable. Rommney vowed to repeal Obamacare but that didn't matter.
I see Freepers mired in their idea of perfection and if they can't have 100% of what they want, they prefer nothing--they will end up with nothing.
And I've been here 3 years longer than you. What difference does that make?
FR is not a GOP forum. It's a conservative forum. When you support the liberal GOP, expect some kickback from conservatives.
I don't believe you because of the things you have posted.
Perhaps you would be happier on a GOP forum with other liberals and moderates.
yep, a Vichy GOPe liberal is still a liberal
You have precisely identified the problem with your strategy which is that there is no step two in it. You may not realize that the two parties are Stupid and Evil. You assume naively that "getting rid" of the Evil party will solve our problems or even just one problem like Obamacare. All historical evidence points against that. With Stupid party control of Congress and the Presidency we grew government and that government is now being used against us. The Stupid party gave us the EPA which is shutting down our coal plants so that we will now freeze in the dark. The Stupid party gave us socialized senior drugs which is leading to drying up of new and useful drugs (the feds will basically only pay for cheap generic drugs). The Stupid party either supported or gave us countless other enlargements of Federal power along with unlimited illegal immigration.
Your strategy of unconditional support of the Stupid party has failed for decades. It is time for a new strategy, not the same old failed strategy.
I call BS on you and the other posters. Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe both voted against the most left wing legislation our time. Obamacare. Scott Brown had he been there in time could have stopped it.
Susan Collins and Olympia snow also voted against Nancy Pelosi’s stimulus. In this new era of bloodsport it’s always better to have the majority even if you have to put up with a few moderates.
You are not just wrong on specifics, but wrong on principle.
If you count Preston Brooks doing a beatdown with a cane on Charles Sumner on the Senate floor to be part of 'this new era'.
That was bloodsport. Took Sumner 3 years to recover and return to the Senate.
You don't know many facts or much history, apparently.
OK I was wrong on the stimulus but not Obmacare.
Still do you really think a Ted Cruz could win in Massachusetts or Illinois? Would you rather have two Dick Durbans or Liawathas? Or Mark Kirk and Scott Brown?
You’re advocating that the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Having the majority is good.
I’d also argue that Akin and Murdoch did more damage to the Republican brand and the pro life movement then a 100 Romney’s.
The rallying cry of Free Republic has become,"NO MORE RINOS". Well my rallying cry is, "NO MORE DEMOCRATS!!!"Now, you tell me which one is the more noble.
If we wait until we get a perfect Republican party, Democrats will be so firmly entrenched we'll never get them out.
Besides, the GOP is a spoiled brand because of liberals and moderates like you.
Electing liberal republicans is as shameful as electing liberal democrats. Electing liberals of any party is not noble.
Col. Rosa Klebb.
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