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With Brown out, GOP mulls Romney energy
Boston Herald ^ | February 2, 2013 | Joe Battenfeld, Hillary Chabot

Posted on 02/02/2013 4:59:15 AM PST by Diogenesis

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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Wrong question, Tagg.

HOW DO WE GET RID of LYING RINOs, and their fascist
backstabbing supporters?

HOW DO WE better vet candidates for conservative positions?


51 posted on 02/02/2013 6:06:12 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis

This is totally irrelevant to the question of how do we get to fifty one Republican senators if we will even admit that we want to take control from the RATs? THINK!!!!!! How do we do it?


52 posted on 02/02/2013 6:08:56 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Diogenesis
I’m asking you for your opinion as to how do we get to fifty one acceptable Republican senators?

I'm more interested in how we get fifty one Conservative senators.

53 posted on 02/02/2013 6:09:01 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Diogenesis
I’m asking you for your opinion as to how do we get to fifty one acceptable Republican senators?

I'm more interested in how we get fifty one Conservative senators.

54 posted on 02/02/2013 6:09:15 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Diogenesis
There is a thick vein of conservatism that needs to be scratched. It happened before; it WILL happen again

wrong my friend. since Reagan a vast army of people "in the public economy" has been created, that includes unemployment, income payments, disability, student loans, government unions. that number is now around 50% of the population, that's more than enough when you throw in green and pro abortion to make the government a permanent fixture until it actually breaks down. that will only happen when the dollar blows up.

55 posted on 02/02/2013 6:09:15 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Diogenesis

What does this have to do with trying to get rid of a Democrat majority in the US Senate?


56 posted on 02/02/2013 6:10:18 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Norm Lenhart
Ping.

/johnny

57 posted on 02/02/2013 6:10:57 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: j_tull

Good. At least you admit you don’t care about getting rid of Democrats—that’s more than the rest of these Freepers will do. These people curse the darkness without the slightest idea of how to get out of the darkness.


58 posted on 02/02/2013 6:12:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Diogenesis
HOW DO WE better vet candidates for conservative positions?

"WE" don't need to "vet". Most of the people who "vet" are generally just pushing their own candidate and tearing down others. The proper way to discuss each candidate is to point out their conservative positions particularly their core principles and past actions. If those are false or made up, someone else will quickly point that out. And that is all that is necessary.

59 posted on 02/02/2013 6:12:53 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer

Do you have a strategy to get to fifty one Republicans in the US Senate?


60 posted on 02/02/2013 6:13:26 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We MUST use RINOS--WE MUST. It's either that or stand back and surrender to RATS. That is the reality.

YOU are part of the problem and the reason we got stuck with Romeny this election cycle. You have been manipulated by the MSM or are a deceiving liberal troll under a seemingly innocuous name like cuddly old great grandmother to have FReepers drop their defenses.

61 posted on 02/02/2013 6:13:37 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
What is your strategy for taking control of the Senate?

What was the strategy for the French resistance in WW II? To align with the Vichy French to fight the Germans? It's the same thing with the Vichy Republicans.

62 posted on 02/02/2013 6:14:38 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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Massachusetts US Senator Special Election

Primary Election: April 30, 2013

Special Election: June 25, 2013


63 posted on 02/02/2013 6:15:09 AM PST by deport
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
You substitute name calling for logic, Tagg.

And it is not going to work this time. Period.

NO MORE RINOs. If a faux conservative lied
they should be recalled, removed, and replaced.

NO MORE RINOs.


64 posted on 02/02/2013 6:15:21 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: livius

Thank you for rational answer but I think you’re saying that it isn’t all that important that we get rid of Democrats in the US Senate.


65 posted on 02/02/2013 6:16:09 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: palmer

I exactly agree with that. I think we’re saying the same thing except I’m taking it one step farther in addressing the fact we MUST get rid of Democrat control in the US Senate and how do we do that?


66 posted on 02/02/2013 6:17:44 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

How about we start by full correction of the LIES of
RINO apologists, RINO protectors, RINO supporters,
and the backstabbing RINOs?


67 posted on 02/02/2013 6:19:39 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Blue Highway

I just want to know why these so called “Moderates” spend all their time trying to moderate the GOP while the democrats happily goose step into full on fascism completely unhindered.

If they truly wanted to moderate, they would seek to moderate the party that actually needs it instead of constantly pinching the feeding tube of the GOP.

Seems to me that they’re deliberately helping the demofascists.


68 posted on 02/02/2013 6:20:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Diogenesis
You are worthless, you don't have the slightest idea of the necessity to get rid of Democrats and even if you understood that, you have no plan as to how to do it. You are incapable of long-term thinking--just like Democrats.

Let's suppose we could get Sarah Palin elected president but we have both a veto proof Democrat US Senate and a veto proof US House, what good is a President Palin?

Maybe you don't understand how legislation is made. I do, I worked inside the system for sixteen years. We MUST have majorities if we want to do anything.

69 posted on 02/02/2013 6:22:03 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The way to get rid of democrats in any position, is to run a CONSERVATIVE against them not a RINO like yourself. I have a suggestion of changing your name to RINOgreatgrandson.


70 posted on 02/02/2013 6:22:48 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wrong, those are the words of someone who knows how the system works and also words of a realist. If I can have my choice of solid conservatives rather than RINOS, I’ll take them but if my choice is between a RINO or a Democrat, I’ll take the RINO.


71 posted on 02/02/2013 6:24:17 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cripplecreek

exactly, and going under an assumed name like conservativegreatgrandma they think they are slick hiding behind a name such as that. They aren’t fooling anyone here.


72 posted on 02/02/2013 6:24:55 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

In some cases that may be true but suppose you must make the choice in a US Senate race between a RAT and a RINO, which one will you choose?


73 posted on 02/02/2013 6:26:23 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Diogenesis
How about we start by full correction of the LIES of RINO apologists, RINO protectors, RINO supporters, and the backstabbing RINOs?

Somehow there are those who ardently believe that all that's required is to have an "R" at the end of one's name, and that is the sole standard. The fact that ideologically the candidate is a near clone of a Democrat (or can easily be moved to the dark side) is never even considered.

Statists, liberals, wishy-washy types, craven politicians who will say anything to get elected - these are all joyously welcomed, as long as they have that precious "R" after their name. The fact that they'll scamper like the rats they are to the other side when the bombs start falling is irrelevant, apparently.

74 posted on 02/02/2013 6:27:20 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: palmer

Well, did you see that I was called a liberal suck up?


75 posted on 02/02/2013 6:27:34 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You have been baiting FReepers in this thread asking what THEY would do. I want to hear YOUR solution. If it is just a path to run more RINOs then I already know what your agenda is and you are truly NO conservative and you should change your FReeper user name immediately.


76 posted on 02/02/2013 6:28:13 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Anyone who does not bow to Romney and Rove
according you is “worthless” and “stupid”.

That clearly demonstrates that YOU
are not the sharpest knife in the drawer or a plant.


77 posted on 02/02/2013 6:29:29 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Your so called 'strategy' has failed MISERABLY for decades. I chose not to repeat mistakes of the past.

No more liberal(R) candidates. Period. If the GOP wants to win, let them run conservatives, or go the way of the Whigs.

/johnny

78 posted on 02/02/2013 6:29:56 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sirius Lee

That’s the ideal but it is never going to happen. This is not heaven and beside, just from ready posts here on FR, I see Freepers moving from loving someone one day to hating them the next.


79 posted on 02/02/2013 6:30:17 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Conservativegreatgrandma:
Well, did you see that I was called a liberal suck up?

We have seen that you are rabid and about as far
from 'conservative' as is Obama-the-Undocumented Marxist.

80 posted on 02/02/2013 6:31:43 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
did you see that I was called a liberal suck up?

That's because you, in your own words, try to gain support for liberal republican candidates.

/johnny

81 posted on 02/02/2013 6:32:01 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Diogenesis

So the romneys are going to be like the kenndys, and the clintons, can’t keep them out of the news!


82 posted on 02/02/2013 6:32:16 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Blue Highway

I did not support Romney in the caucus but after he became the Republican candidate, I wholeheartedly supported both Romney and Ryan as anyone is better than Obama.


83 posted on 02/02/2013 6:32:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Keep posting, Tagg.
To remind all here that Team Romney NEVER stops
their vicious attacks on true conservatives
as they peddle their worthless nonsense.


84 posted on 02/02/2013 6:34:38 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Blue Highway
So you're accusing me of being a RINO because I acknowledge the necessity of electing RINOS, in certain cases to get to the magical number of fifty one to take control of the US Senate?

I assure you, I am not even close to a RINO but if I have to use a RINO to get rid of a Democrat, I'll do it.

85 posted on 02/02/2013 6:36:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You’re wasting your time trying to teach folks how to play poker when they’re best at go fish.


86 posted on 02/02/2013 6:36:33 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: knife6375

I guess in stead of rino, we just need to start calling them what they are demoRAT-lite!!!!!


87 posted on 02/02/2013 6:36:55 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
It has been said to you a multitude of times.....

Give the people a clear choice. We need to run conservative candidates that live conservatism, not candidates that pretend to be conservative right before they're up for election.

What you have been touting on FR is a proven losing strategy. If conservatism isn't what sells, why do our more moderate candidates always pretend to be more conservative right before their elections? Why not let it "all hang out" and campaign as a liberal? Because it's a losing strategy, as we have witnessed.

Wake up!

88 posted on 02/02/2013 6:39:29 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: Blue Highway

I am only trying to point out how important it is to get to fifty one Republican senators in the US Senate? So you think it is more conservative to ignore a defensive strategy to keep Democrats out of control? I don’t. I think it is more conservative to do everything possible to keep Democrats out of the control.


89 posted on 02/02/2013 6:39:49 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JRandomFreeper

So you prefer Democrat control?


90 posted on 02/02/2013 6:40:58 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
That’s the ideal but it is never going to happen.

Okay, you convinced me. It's futile. Gonna stay home for now on, because what's the point after all. Never is never.

91 posted on 02/02/2013 6:40:58 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Diogenesis
To remind all here that Team Romney NEVER stops their vicious attacks on true conservatives as they peddle their worthless nonsense.

Good point, Diogenesis. Now that Romney's been roundly trounced by Obama, he can warm up his sleaze machine again and go back to attacking conservatives. I'd forgotten that he set it down after he got rid of his Republican competitors.

92 posted on 02/02/2013 6:41:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
If someone calls you names, the proper response is not to call them names. Clarify your position. Argue it using different words. Your insistence that people answer your "51 Senators" question does not help your case. It means you are unwilling to look at alternatives (e.g. a strong conservative minority caucus).

If you truly believe that 51 votes fixes everything, why did that not work in the Clinton and GW Bush eras?

93 posted on 02/02/2013 6:41:13 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
pseudo-Conservative"greatgrandma":
"Stop picking on RINOs and Democrat plants."


94 posted on 02/02/2013 6:42:48 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

>I agree with that but it ignores the questions of how do we get to fifty one senators because it seems to me that unless we get there, government is going to continue to grow and grow and grow because our side doesn’t have the will to try to stop Democrats.

This is going to take strategy and I see a lack of a sane strategy on FR. <

If you will recall when Bush had a majority in both houses, Harry Reid et al screamed bloody murder about “fairness”, and “bipartisanship”. Invariably we would see more moderate “Republicans” caving in and siding with the democrat minority.

So, if you use strategy to elect any old moderate, in order to gain 51 votes, you are doomed to failure.

History is a great teacher.


95 posted on 02/02/2013 6:43:05 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I will never prefer a liberal Republican to a conservative Republican but I will ALWAYS prefer a liberal Republican to a liberal Democrat and that is all I am trying to say.


96 posted on 02/02/2013 6:43:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Diogenesis

TEAM ROMNEY.

Team Romney are PROVEN backstabbers.
= =- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
TEAM ROMNEY and the GOPE just proved they are very effective against CONSERVATIVES or OTHER R’s.

The 3 women (BY NO MEANS PERFECT) that Rove & Co torpedoed - as much by inaction as anything - When I say the women were not perfect and probably not really MY first choice but they went up against IMNSHO vulnerable D’s...
The D’s may or may not be ‘stealing’ elections but the R establishment is doing NOTHING to override them.

This last election in MA and the ‘new’ appt by the Gov are examples of R’s being weak.

Saw the map of Ronald Reagans victory and I believe one of the problems ‘we’ Conservatives/R’s have is - however minute, just a thought - we let ‘them’ co-opt us and somehow WE became RED (sinister? more so than Blue) and they just ‘took over’ BLUE. Like I said minutiae BUT just proved we won’t stand up for ourselves. When ‘they’ have you on the run, once you try and stand up for yourself no one takes you serious.
Reid gets reelected - despite having his head up BO’s arse,
(remember BO was telling folks that Vegas was a waste of their money), that faux Marine (wannabee more than he actually was) Blumenthal in CT, the faux Indian - if nothing else accepted money for College on less than honorable conditions, a decent woman in DE not getting backing, the D’s, under BO threaten to cripple the coal industry in PA and Murtha walked to another huge win etc etc etc.

Lord knows what ‘they’ are going to foist upon us next, the D’s run a more outlandish candidate year after year...Clinton gets reelected when he was proven to be inept and a womanizer etc, Gore almost beats Bush, Kerry came way to close and though I will deny saying it (<:) they are both BETTER than BO (whose ‘only’ asset was he ‘looks good’ and doesn’t speak ‘Black’) who wins twice MAINLY because the R’s offered absolutely no viable opposition and the D’s giving away the store.


97 posted on 02/02/2013 6:43:56 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Diogenesis

Why tear down Romney over a dog non-issue? Is that easier than pointing out the dozens of reasons that he is not conservative?


98 posted on 02/02/2013 6:44:06 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So you prefer Democrat control?

It doesn't matter if a liberal(D) or liberal(R) is in control. Both are liberals.

If the Republican party has to be destroyed to get conservatives in charge, I'm fine with that.

What you are advocating has not, and will not work. We'll still wind up with liberals in charge.

/johnny

99 posted on 02/02/2013 6:44:08 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blackirish

Thank you. I despise Democrats far more than I despise RINOs and I’ll do anything to defeat a Democrat at every opportunity. We don’t even know who are our enemies.


100 posted on 02/02/2013 6:45:39 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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