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South El Monte High students lose fingers in game of tug-of-war
SGV Tribune ^ | 02/05/2013 | Juliette Funes

Posted on 02/05/2013 8:25:08 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

SOUTH EL MONTE - An innocent game of tug-of-war turned tragic Monday afternoon when two South El Monte High School students had their fingers severed.

Tug-of-war is a competitive game in which two teams pull, or tug, on a rope in opposite directions in a show of strength.

The students, a boy and a girl, were participating in the lunchtime Spirit Week activity celebrating homecoming when they were injured, El Monte Union High School District Assistant Superintendent Edward Zuniga said. Neither he nor other district officials would release the students' names or ages.

The girl is a senior and varsity soccer player, while the boy is a football player.

Los Angeles County Fire Capt. Miguel Garcia said firefighters responded at 12:20 p.m. to the school at 1001 Durfee Ave.

"Fingers (were) amputated during some type of tug-of-war," Garcia said. "They were transported by ambulance to a trauma center."

The students were taken to Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center after their fingers were torn off, Fire Department officials said.

"They are both stable and the parents were by their bedside," said hospital spokeswoman Rosa Sacca. "They were getting ready to be taken to the operating room to try to re-attach the fingers."

Authorities didn't say how many fingers the girl and the boy lost.

It is unknown how many other teens were participating in the tug-of-war, Zuniga said.

"At this point we're trying to find out more information," Zuniga said.

It is unclear whether the school or the El Monte Union High School District will change their policies on campus activities.

"We'll review the activity with district administration," Zuniga said. "We're in the early stages. We just want to make sure we have all the facts straight before we talk about changing activities."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tugofwar
Clearly we need rope free zones at our schools.
1 posted on 02/05/2013 8:25:15 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
I love this part...

"Fingers (were) amputated during some type of tug-of-war," Garcia said. "They were transported by ambulance to a trauma center."

And while I'm happy to know the fingers were transported by ambulance, I do wonder about the students. Did they get a ride too?

2 posted on 02/05/2013 8:28:12 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Probably used cheap nylon rope. This stuff has happened before.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 8:32:27 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not until after the school got permission from the parents...


4 posted on 02/05/2013 8:32:27 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

What were they using, piano wire?


5 posted on 02/05/2013 8:32:52 AM PST by fso301
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To: Responsibility2nd

How can one (or several) not let go of a rope?


6 posted on 02/05/2013 8:33:01 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sad, but it reminds me of those insurance policies they used to sell at school, with a certain value for loss of life, and different amounts for the loss of each body part.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 8:33:47 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

(Tug-of-)War is hell!


8 posted on 02/05/2013 8:34:46 AM PST by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Something tells me there are some important facts missing about this story.

Having fingerS RIPPED off of the hand takes some extraordinary torque. Likely more than what would be expected in a simple, hang on and pull type, tug of war. The Raven's Offensive line might be able to break some fingers and potentially tear some flesh with a well coordinated jerk of the rope. But elbows and shoulders would come loose (and drop the rope) before you would think fingers are severed (or ripped off).

Were they playing tug of war with bailing wire or thin steel cable? Were their hands taped to the rope? Were they trying to tug on a vehicle that suddenly accelerated? Something is missing I tell ya.

9 posted on 02/05/2013 8:35:21 AM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Responsibility2nd
"We'll review the activity with district administration," Zuniga said. "We're in the early stages. We just want to make sure we have all the facts straight before we talk about changing activities."


Of COURSE you are ... it's friggin' left coast California.

SOMEone's gonn'a pay for the idiot kids an' it WON'T be them nor their parents.

10 posted on 02/05/2013 8:36:54 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Students need to remember they don’t have “real” superpowers like they do in video games and movies /s

Common sense would tell you if your fingers feel like they are starting to be pulled out of their sockets you should let go. I forget public schools teach socialism and not common sense.../s


11 posted on 02/05/2013 8:40:36 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Responsibility2nd

There will be an investigation and lawsuits. All schools throughout the country will immediately suspend games involving ropes. Children who bring in pieces of string will be sent to the principal’s office. Kids who draw images of rope will be expelled.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Responsibility2nd
Did they get a ride too?

No. And, they won't be able to find out anything either, due to HIPPA requirements.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 8:43:10 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Tug-of-war is a competitive game in which two teams pull, or tug, on a rope in opposite directions in a show of strength.

There's exposition, there's AP style and then there's statement of the bleeding obvious.

14 posted on 02/05/2013 8:44:11 AM PST by relictele
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To: sasquatch

Must have got caught in the rope somehow. Being able to hold on hard enough to pull your own finger off would be very rare, I think.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 8:44:44 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: I want the USA back

Jump Rope is an assault weapon..............


16 posted on 02/05/2013 8:45:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Tenacious 1

“... were their hands taped to the rope?”

I’m trying to figure out the physics part of this story. I wonder if you twirl/twist the rope around your fingers... if a finger(s) can be yanked off. If so, wouldn’t just the skin be pulled off. I agree... something is missing from the story.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 8:45:32 AM PST by momtothree
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To: fso301

Rope can be quite strong.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 8:45:32 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: fso301

Rope can be quite strong.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 8:45:47 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Responsibility2nd
Tug-of-war is a competitive game in which two teams pull, or tug, on a rope in opposite directions in a show of strength.
How sad that tug-of-war has to be explained in America.
20 posted on 02/05/2013 8:48:25 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Responsibility2nd

..went through there a couple of years ago—it’s a Third World city...


21 posted on 02/05/2013 8:49:35 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Tenacious 1

They might have wrapped the rope around their hands, it slipped when the tension came, the fingers were still in the loop and both sides were still pulling. Awful, I hope they didn’t loose too many however it happened.

Freegards


22 posted on 02/05/2013 8:50:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: tbpiper

Probably wrapped the rope around their hand or fingers as well.


23 posted on 02/05/2013 8:50:26 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Responsibility2nd
They may have looped the rope around their hands. I once worked for someone who lost two fingers calf roping that way.
24 posted on 02/05/2013 8:53:23 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Responsibility2nd

Some folks take tug of war seriously


25 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I remember several years back a school or church group had a HUGE tug-of war competition using a large nylon rope. There were like a hundred or more people on that rope. The rope snapped and people towards the middle of the rope lost most of their fingers. Just about everyone got injured with severe rope burns and lacerations on their hands.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 9:07:38 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

DO NOT wrap the rope around your hand!!


27 posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:44 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Truth29
"They may have looped the rope around their hands. I once worked for someone who lost two fingers calf roping that way."

See post 26 for another possible explanation.

28 posted on 02/05/2013 9:13:30 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: sasquatch

“How can one (or several) not let go of a rope?”

A rope wrapped around a hand will tighten as it gets pulled and you can’t let go.

Basic rope safety -— don’t wrap around your hand.

Apparently, no one there grew up on a farm.


29 posted on 02/05/2013 9:19:09 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: sasquatch

Cheap nylon rope, wrapped around their knuckles and fingers. Sailors and fishermen are well aware of the hazards associated with handling rope like this.


30 posted on 02/05/2013 9:37:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: momtothree

I am guessing they were using small diameter (1/2 inch or smaller) rope.
If they had twisted a half-turn or more around their hands/wrists...that would do it. You couldn’t let go with tension on the rope.


31 posted on 02/05/2013 10:11:43 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Tenacious 1

They may have wrapped the rope around their hands.

I know a lady who has had horses all of her life & rides every day.

She has only 2 fingers * her thumb on one hand because she wrapped a lead rope around her hand & the young horse in training pulled back really hard.

People who handle horses are always taught NEVER to wrap the lead rope around your hand—too dangerous.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 10:18:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: jsanders2001

It’s all fun and games until someone loses a finger.


33 posted on 02/05/2013 10:20:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd
"We'll review the activity with district administration," Zuniga said. "We're in the early stages

What happens next week when a student gets a paper cut? Ban rope! Ban paper! Heck, just ban schools and put everyone in a bubble.

34 posted on 02/05/2013 10:38:06 AM PST by bgill
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To: Responsibility2nd

People don’t think about the incredible pulling strength of 20 or more people.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 10:41:34 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Tenacious 1

I seem to recall reading about this happening before but with middle school students.

Most likely, the line was some synthetic material and participants had wrapped it around their hands to get a better grip. I suspect that several hundred pounds of force would be enough to sever fingers.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 10:59:55 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Here’s the incident that I recalled from some years past:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/jun/07/2-boy-scouts-die-when-tug-of-war-rope-snaps/

In this incident, 650 Scouts were pulling on the rope. Assuming that each Scout could generate, say, twenty pounds of force, that would be 6500 pounds in each direction. That’s over THREE TONS of force. If the Scouts tried to coordinate while jerking on the rope, they might generate twice that amount, or SIX TONS.

I remember a co-worker years ago who was applying compressed air to a plastic container that was roughly a one-foot-cube. The pressure regulator was reading about 15 psi, when it dawned on me that somebody should consider the forces involved. Each face of the cube would consist of 144 inches, so that total force on that face would be roughly 15 times 150 or OVER TWO THOUSAND POUNDS. Just as I was about to warn him that he was doing something foolish, the back of the box was blown off against the nearby wall.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 1:10:45 PM PST by William Tell
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