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Krugman: U.S. Needs Death Panels, Sales Taxes
Breitbart ^ | Joel Griffith

Posted on 02/05/2013 1:47:44 PM PST by JohnPDuncan

Nobel Prize winning “economist” Paul Krugman spoke at Sixth & I Historic Synagogue in Washington, D.C. last week. During the Q&A session following the lecture, an audience member asked him about the rising national debt.

Earlier in the evening, Krugman had already vocalized his satisfaction at President Obama’s apparent lack of concern over the exploding cumulative deficit. However, in a moment of brutal honesty, the esteemed Princeton professor revealed his long term prognosis. According to the professor:

Eventually we do have a problem. That the population is getting older, health care costs are rising…there is this question of how we’re going to pay for the programs. The year 2025, the year 2030, something is going to have to give…. …. We’re going to need more revenue…Surely it will require some sort of middle class taxes as well.. We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes… on the middle class, maybe a value added tax…And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits . So the snarky version…which I shouldn’t even say because it will get me in trouble is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.

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To: JohnPDuncan

Hey, Krugman! How about if we need death panels, YOU GO FIRST!!


51 posted on 02/05/2013 7:49:28 PM PST by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Advocating death panels in a house of worship?
Sarah was right, as she usually is. America, ignore her at your own peril,


52 posted on 02/05/2013 10:53:52 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA ***)
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To: Rich21IE
I think that, in the back of our minds, we all know its coming; its just a matter of how soon.

Do you think he'll take out the Jews and Gypsies too? How about kids with cancer? Lot of medical costs involved with childhood cancer. And vets who are injured? Obama gonna kill them too?

Maybe camps for those whose politics don't jive? Why feed conservatives? Haven't we seen this before?

53 posted on 02/05/2013 11:35:52 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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To: Rich21IE; All

If we don’t want to give all our hard earned estate to drug companies, doctors and hospitals, we need to know how to plan an at home death. I cared for my mother and husband when they were dying of congestive heart failure and Alzheimers and the doctors said there was nothing more they could do. Neither wanted to die in a hospital hooked up to a lot of machines, so they begged me to care for them through the end. I had home Hospice which came in and helped in the last weeks. My Scots background husband said he’d be damned if the money he had worked so hard to save was going to the medical profession if he could help it. He wants it to go to our children and grandchildren after I am gone. Getting information from doctors you respect that nothing can be done to reverse the rapid dying process is not a “death panel”, it is reality. Like it or not! And I for one don’t plan to enrich the medical/pharmaceutical industrial complex.


54 posted on 02/06/2013 1:05:05 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: GOPJ

Yes we have. And after watching the half-time show at the Super Bowl, it all came quite clear to me that the progression is inevitable. The US is the fastest developing Pagan culture in history; this culture is going backward at an amazing rate. Its Decivilizing. A society as sick as this one can’t long last, but the devestation they’ll leave in their wake will be monumental.


55 posted on 02/06/2013 10:35:44 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: JohnPDuncan

56 posted on 02/06/2013 1:06:01 PM PST by matt04
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To: Rich21IE

You’ll enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1mhRBOKb_6I#!


57 posted on 02/06/2013 8:25:13 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Sarah was right—and we all knew it. Now the libs are admitting it outright.


58 posted on 02/06/2013 8:52:11 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Please pray for America. She needs God's help more than ever now.)
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To: gleeaikin

I understand what you’re saying, and you make a fair point. But if I understand correctly, your family made that decision not to be connected to machines for themselves, not the government.

My nephew (ten years old) has lung cancer, and I don’t want Obamacare bureaucrats making a cost-benefit decision about his life. My sister has taken a leave of absence to nurse him back to health, at a financial cost, of course, to her family.

Each life is precious, no matter how young, or how old.


59 posted on 02/06/2013 9:02:39 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Please pray for America. She needs God's help more than ever now.)
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To: proud American in Canada; All

I know that many would not be able to do what we did, but if more of us were determined to do so and had help making it work, it would save many millions of health care costs that the taxpayers otherwise might have to share. I believe that something like half or more of all medical costs are incurred in the last 6 months of life. It is hard for some to accept that when the stage of multiple organ failures is reached, that the dying person might be happier in their own home and bed, and not being wakened up at all hours poked, prodded and pricked time and again. In the year before my mother died she would phone me from the hospital at 3 am crying “I am sooo huuungry!” After she came to stay with me I would keep a little box next to her at night with snacks and a sippy cup of water and she was much happier.

I hope your nephew recovers. Encourage your sister to learn all she can about therapeutic nutrition, as this may help his recovery. If he is on chemo, and has nausea, then Pantothenic Acid, 200 to 250 mg. per day may help.


60 posted on 02/06/2013 11:45:41 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: JohnPDuncan

Death Panels? Krugman first!


61 posted on 02/07/2013 2:47:42 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m a healthy 59 year old and gainfully employed. I have paid into the system since I was 15. The Ponzi scheme called medicare has failed already and that failure will double down as Obamacare is realeased in full. Be careful what you wish for. Someday the shoe will be on the other foot.


62 posted on 02/07/2013 3:02:15 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: gleeaikin

“. In the year before my mother died she would phone me from the hospital at 3 am crying “I am sooo huuungry!” After she came to stay with me I would keep a little box next to her at night with snacks and a sippy cup of water and she was much happier.

I hope your nephew recovers. Encourage your sister to learn all she can about therapeutic nutrition, as this may help his recovery. If he is on chemo, and has nausea, then Pantothenic Acid, 200 to 250 mg. per day may help.”

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Oh, I understand, on your first point. It sounds like you made your mother’s last days very comfortable. My mom died of cancer, in the hospital, and yes, it was awful. As you said, patients are awakened at all hours of the night. And every time we went to visit her, her feeding tube was empty (beeping all the time) and she needed more morphine. We had to ask the nurses to help her. I’m sure her last days were awful.

And thank you, on the second point. My sister has done alternative therapies, in addition to the chemo he’s had; I’ll pass along the tip about Pantothenic Acid. :)

May God bless you for what you did for your mother. :)


63 posted on 02/07/2013 5:03:21 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Please pray for America. She needs God's help more than ever now.)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks. That’s awesome.


64 posted on 02/07/2013 7:57:17 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: proud American in Canada; All

Your mother died of cancer, which from what I have heard is a lot more painful than dying of congestive heart failure or Alzheimer’s. The Hospice did give me morphine for my husband if moving him caused pain, but since I did not move him, there was no pain. Fortunately he had a bowel movement shortly before slipping into his coma, so no moving him to clean up needed. They wanted the morphine back after he died.


65 posted on 02/08/2013 12:00:12 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: RJS1950

“Before too long, even young people who have recurring heart problems, cancer, etc, will be sent down the path of pallative non-care much like Britain. What can now prolong life for even serious illness will only be given in the future to the rich and politician classes who have exempted themselves from the obamination.”

I agree with you. I’ve been hearing some folks claim that we are within 5-10 years of completely eliminating cancer and heart disease. According to those claims, major research hospitals are “on the verge” of live saving breakthroughs. I was a bit doubtful, but then realized that I’m sure that at one time it was thought that you could never overcome polio. Now we have vaccines that have wiped it out.

Now, let’s remove the market reward aspect of such developments and what do you have? Probably not much! I’m wondering if the research mentioned above will be abandoned.


66 posted on 02/08/2013 9:00:20 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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