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California Gives Up On Math: State will no longer require eighth-graders to take algebra
http://gopthedailydose.com ^ | february 8, 2013 | robby soave

Posted on 02/08/2013 9:08:51 AM PST by lowbridge

California will no longer require eighth-graders to take algebra —a move that is line with the Common Core standards being adopted by most states, but that may leave students unprepared for college.

Last month, California formally shifted to the Common Core mathematics standards, which recommend that students delay taking algebra if they aren’t ready for it. Previously, algebra class was a requirement for all eighth-graders in the state.

The Common Core State Standards Initiative, which is sponsored by the National Governor’s Association, is an effort to unify diverse state education curricula. Forty-five other states and the District of Columbia have signed on so far.

But some education experts worry that the change will further damage struggling students’ college chances, since early proficiency in Algebra I is an excellent predictor of college graduation, according to the Mercury News.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; algebra; california; commoncore
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To: lowbridge

Teaching Math In 1950
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1960
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1970
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is $80. Did he make a profit?

Teaching Math In 1980
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

Teaching Math In 1990
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers.)

Teaching Math In 2005
Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de la
producción-——


51 posted on 02/08/2013 10:06:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lowbridge

Old School Math,

Bunker Style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da0eaiZ0CKw


52 posted on 02/08/2013 10:08:13 AM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: lowbridge

Did this requirement come along after I went through school? I didn’t take algebra until I was a freshman in high school.


53 posted on 02/08/2013 10:12:10 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Taking away guns will do nothing to stop violence.)
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To: dfwgator

.............Teaching Math In 1990
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers.)...............


Actually teaching since the 1990s goes further.

The assignment is; Find someone else in class that agrees with you, so we can discuss the impact on the environment.


54 posted on 02/08/2013 10:14:04 AM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: dfwgator

Among other jobs, I dug ditches while working my way through college. I earned a degree as a software engineer and had to take calculus to earn my degree. My high school algebra did little to aid me in either profession.


55 posted on 02/08/2013 10:16:10 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: muawiyah

Right, because being able to communicate is no indicator of intelligence.....I stick by my opinion.


56 posted on 02/08/2013 10:18:58 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (In my world, Daddys don't leave after 4 or 8 years and a new one get picked by half the country)
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To: Little Bill

Did he ever do a post-game interview?


57 posted on 02/08/2013 10:20:56 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: lowbridge
Algebra is the first step into abstract mathematics which is reasoning. And, if one reasons too much he or she may decide that the state over reaches, and...
that these are still necessary for college.

What a dilemma for the left.

58 posted on 02/08/2013 10:22:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: lowbridge

Comrades, kids don’t need education to work on a state collective farm.


59 posted on 02/08/2013 10:22:14 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: lowbridge

Algebra teaches logical reasoning which is why they want to drop it.

Socialism requires emotion, not logic.


60 posted on 02/08/2013 10:27:12 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: muawiyah
Southern school systems like those in Virginia think chilluns are entirely too immature to handle algebra until 9th grade.

Gee, in NYC in the 70s algebra was 9th grade math - even in Catholic schools. My daughter in a VA public school took algebra last year in 8th grade.

61 posted on 02/08/2013 10:30:09 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: lowbridge

..when Common Core is fully implemented, I don’t see how God-fearing, conservative teachers can continue on—my wife and I will have a big decision to make...


62 posted on 02/08/2013 10:32:49 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: lowbridge

Califonia Public Education = “Winning”!


63 posted on 02/08/2013 10:34:56 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (The owner of a uterus has no more "right" than a gun owner, to kill innocent lives.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I didn’t have algebra until high school, and no calculus until college. Did well in 2 years of college calculus, all As and Bs. Must have algebra in 8th grade or else? Not in my experience.


64 posted on 02/08/2013 10:35:23 AM PST by Toucan Dance
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To: lowbridge

That’s because algebra is an element of the oppressive paradigm foisted upon the heritages of color. It started out pure when the Muslims invented it. But like everything else in the United States, algebra is just holding back the people.


65 posted on 02/08/2013 10:37:40 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: verga; SoftballMominVA; shag377

I graduated from a Catholic college prep HS in NYC in 1978 - algebra was always 9th grade math and not just in catholic schools.

My daughter, OTOH, took algebra last year while still in 8th grade, but only because she is in an accelerated class. In our district algebra is 9th grade math. The majority of other students in her geometry class this year are 10th graders.


66 posted on 02/08/2013 10:38:30 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: lowbridge

Gives up? Does that mean the kids weren’t getting it? How about ‘home-schooled’ kids? Bet they get it — in spades!


67 posted on 02/08/2013 10:45:07 AM PST by Exit148
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To: GraceG
Well Algebra is an arabic derived word...

For what they took from the Dravidian cultures which they subsequently destroyed.

68 posted on 02/08/2013 10:47:18 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Gabz

Things change slowly ~ when I got here they still distrusted addition and subtraction.


69 posted on 02/08/2013 10:49:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge
The Common Core State Standards Initiative, which is sponsored by the National Governor’s Association, is an effort to unify diverse state education curricula. Forty-five other states and the District of Columbia have signed on so far.

Can anyone imagine anything more stupid than such a project? The insanity of the present climate in American Education closely parallels the ideological idiocy, which at the same time embraces "diversity" as a goal, while promoting every idiotic egalitarian program under the sun, to undermine the vast actual diversity of human types!

Our States were created by settlers with different motives, different values & different aptitudes. The Federal Constitution, wisely, left all questions of Health, Safety & Morals (the Police Powers) to the States. The Founders understood that one size did not fit all. But now the "Mipips"--as I call them (Marxist Influenced Pseudo-Intellectual Poseurs--are intent on forcing everyone into the same mold.

Yet nothing is more certain than that Collectivist/Egalitarianism Sabotages Human Potential.

As long as this idiocy goes largely unchallenged in American public debate, our situation will continue to deteriorate. Our hopes for the future are ever more dependent upon the integrity of someone like Hans Christian Andersen's little boy, who is not afraid to announce that the Emperor is naked.

Enough is enough.

William Flax

70 posted on 02/08/2013 10:50:28 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Clock King

I did the same thing. I have an engineering degree from Texas A&M.

Personally, I don’t think you need to take Algebra I in eigth grade.

Some people do not do well at math,and it might be better to have them take a slower paced class that gives them lots of practice.

Lots of kids do not belong in college, so why are they forced to be college ready.

I think I would change the curriculum also to make it things like practical math. They have to figure out tips and taxes, balance a checkbook, work on tax returns,double or triple recipes for cooking, etc.


71 posted on 02/08/2013 10:52:44 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: lowbridge

4/3s of all people don’t understand fractions...


72 posted on 02/08/2013 10:54:31 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: muawiyah

Algebra is still a 9th grade class in this district - except for the accelerated students.

35 years after I graduated, algebra is still a 9th grade class in my alma mater.


73 posted on 02/08/2013 10:59:14 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Ingtar
I don't know, look up James Nangal and see.
74 posted on 02/08/2013 11:07:53 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Little Bill

I have a long standing theory that sports journalists do their best to interview those with the poorest communication skills in order to make themselves sound more intelligent.


75 posted on 02/08/2013 11:12:29 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: proxy_user

When I was in school no one got it until 9th grade. And then only those who were college bound.

When I got to the University of Washington, there were scads of young women who were in what we called Bonehead math. They were struggling with the Math 105 that was required.

I hosted free math seminars in my co-ed dorm every week. And these were young middle-class white women who had not gotten basic skills.


76 posted on 02/08/2013 11:15:52 AM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: angry elephant

77 posted on 02/08/2013 11:18:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lowbridge

“our Diversity Is Our Strength!”


78 posted on 02/08/2013 11:29:07 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: lowbridge

As long as they can use an EBT card and vote Democratic, its all good.


79 posted on 02/08/2013 11:29:26 AM PST by rbg81
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hilarious and pitiful...my 3rd grader is in the Horizon’s program here (gifted student) in Georgia (yes, in public school) and she began doing algebra this year.


80 posted on 02/08/2013 11:46:39 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: lowbridge

It’s a waste of funding anyway. Obviously, California’s leaders didn’t learn much from math classes.


81 posted on 02/08/2013 12:31:25 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: EEGator; GraceG; BobL

Most of the stuff passed off as “Arabic” inventions, especially in mathematics, were merely transported by the Arabs to the rest of the world, sourced originally from the Hindus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_mathematicians#Classical


82 posted on 02/08/2013 1:18:50 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Noumenon; muawiyah
Well Algebra is an arabic derived word... For what they took from the Dravidian cultures which they subsequently destroyed.

Aryan, actually, and one of the mathematician's names - Aryabhatta. See link in my previous comment.

83 posted on 02/08/2013 1:26:41 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Thanks for the link. I was not aware of all their contributions. I’m not surprised though.


84 posted on 02/08/2013 1:28:22 PM PST by EEGator
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To: James C. Bennett
Yes, you are correct - I just read about this in Emmet Scott's Mohammed & Charlemagne Revisited, where the author makes a very strong case for the idea that the so-called Dark Ages - from mid 7th century to the end of the 10th - were largely the product of the rise of Islam. They engaged in slaughter, ruin, enslavement and impoverishment everywhere they went. For a time, they appeared to be fabulously wealthy, but that was merely a byproduct of the looting of every civilized place they went.
85 posted on 02/08/2013 1:35:03 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Dravidian culture is still alive and well


86 posted on 02/08/2013 1:39:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Heavily Sanskritised / Aryanised, however.


87 posted on 02/08/2013 2:41:49 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Lol! I like math jokes.


88 posted on 02/08/2013 3:39:48 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: chrisser

http://www.aisforactivist.com/

This is seriously a left-wing board book for kids from zero to three years old.


89 posted on 02/08/2013 3:52:36 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: James C. Bennett

Yeah, i know you want to get into a fun argument with an indian (hindu indian) tell them how great it was that the Arabs invented the zero and algebra, LOL


90 posted on 02/08/2013 4:06:23 PM PST by GraceG
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To: luckystarmom
I think I would change the curriculum also to make it things like practical math. They have to figure out tips and taxes, balance a checkbook, work on tax returns,double or triple recipes for cooking, etc.

Life 101 and 102 courses. I always wondered why those were never taught at the HS level. Include subjects like investing, saving money, what is a loan, etc. It doesn't have to be deep, just enough so kids understand what adults do, why we do it, and where to go find more information.

The "elites" (progressives) have sold the entire society on the idea that "everybody should go to college". I remember when Eleanor Clift(?) said that decades ago and I thought it was the dumbest idea I ever heard. This is why we now have people with degrees in subjects that used to be hobbies or side passions. The result of the "everybody gets a trophy" mindset. Now too many go to college and have to take remedial classes in subjects they should have learned back in HS or GS.

It will take a long time to break people of this mindset, I'm afraid.

91 posted on 02/08/2013 4:38:06 PM PST by Clock King
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To: MissNomer

“Paladin2 was being facetious”

Obviously, but it gave me a great opening to again bash the schools, and try (hopelessly) to wake up American parents.


92 posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:55 PM PST by BobL
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To: lowbridge

The average IQ in a lot of CA public schools is 85.

Forcing students with IQs of 85 - or below - to take Algebra is cruel.

It makes boys angry and girls depressed. The boys get violent, the girls get pregnant.

You cannot send a third-world population to a first-world school.

The whole idea of it is ridiculous


93 posted on 02/08/2013 6:00:43 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Good for you!


94 posted on 02/08/2013 6:14:47 PM PST by thecodont
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