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Joe Paterno family releases report
Espn.com ^ | February 10, 2013 | Espn.com

Posted on 02/10/2013 7:10:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip

A report commissioned by Joe Paterno's family calls the July 2012 Freeh report that was accepted by Penn State trustees before unprecedented sanctions were levied by the NCAA against the school's football program a "total failure" that is "full of fallacies, unsupported personal opinions, false allegations and biased assertions."

The Paterno family report, which targets nearly every conclusion and assertion the Freeh report made about Paterno in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal, states that while former FBI director Louis J. Freeh has had an honorable past and good reputation, his investigation -- especially as it relates to Paterno -- relied on "rank speculation," "innuendo" and "subjective opinions" when it concluded that Paterno concealed facts about Sandusky in part to avoid bad publicity.

Freeh was hired on Nov. 21, 2011 and paid $6.5 million by Penn State University trustees --

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The Paterno family immediately roundly and loudly rejected the report, and, four days after its release, instructed its lawyer to form a "group of experts" to conduct a comprehensive review of the facts and conclusions. The Paterno family asked its attorney's law firm, King and Spalding of Washington, D.C., to start "a comprehensive review of the report and Joe Paterno's conduct. They authorized us to engage the preeminent experts in their field and to obtain their independent analyses."

The law firm hired former U.S. attorney general Richard Thornburgh, former FBI supervisory special agent and former state prosecutor James Clemente, and Dr. Fred Berlin, a treating physician, psychiatrist, psychologist and expert in sexual disorders and pedophilia at The Johns Hopkins Hospital and School of Medicine. The family's report attacks Freeh's conclusions, assertions, methodology, investigative abilities and choices, disclosures and independence.

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To: Alaska Wolf

<>Where are you getting your information?<>

http://www.framingpaterno.com/

<>I already posted a link, but I’ll repost it especially for you.<>

Your link provides no evidence. He just makes an assertion that disagrees with the book that he is reviewing. If that’s your source then no wonder you are misled.

<>Can you provide documentation ....<>

At the link and partner sites. And you will find a copy of the [fact free] Freeh Report there as well which you clearly haven’t read.


201 posted on 02/11/2013 5:50:26 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf

I took these comments as a challenge and easily identified 20 errors and omissions in the report. It was hard to keep the list to twenty, understanding that the media has a short attention span, so I picked the ones that had the most impact on Freeh’s press conference statements.

The Freeh Report:
1. Omitted federal and state laws regarding the confidentiality of child abuse reports (prohibited by law from knowing the identity of the child in the 2001 incident or the children in the 1998 incident).

2. Incorrectly found that Paterno, Curley, and Spanier knew the details of the 1998 investigation (under the law, these men could not be informed of the details of the investigation).

3. Incorrectly found that Spanier failed in his duties by not informing the Board of Trustees about 1998 (under the law, the BOT could not be informed of the investigation).

4. Recommended revisions to PSU Policy AD39 that violated state laws (the revised policy, which is included in its entirety in the Freeh Report, states a report must be made to the General Counsel and Risk Management Department after contacting DPW. Those contacts are illegal under Pa. 055 Section 3490. That law provides the rationale for Wendell Courtney having no knowledge of the 1998 incident. Furthermore, the law requires contacting the DA if a school employee is the abuser. The new policy fails to meet the law on several fronts.)

5. Incorrectly found that Paterno, Curley, Spanier, and Schultz were kept informed of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky. (e-mail evidence shows just the opposite).

6. Did not investigate the potential conflict of interest issue between DPW and Second Mile, identified by police Chief Tom Harmon during the 1998 investigation.

7. Constructed an incomplete timeline of Sandusky’s crimes (omitted crimes prior to 1998).

8. Did not investigate the claims by Gary Schultz and Wendell Courtney regarding contacting Center County Children and Youth Services (CYS) about the 2001 incident.

9. Omitted the testimony of Dr. Jonathon Dranov regarding the 2001 shower incident.

10. Did not address the changing testimony and non-specific information reported by Mike McQueary regarding the 2001 shower incident.

11. Incorrectly characterized e-mails as “cryptic” and “unique” to the 2001 shower incident (one of the exhibits was about the future employment of basketball coach Jerry Dunn).

12. Incorrectly concluded that the three officials, Schultz, Spanier, and Curley, had agreed to an action plan. (Spanier did not recall there ever being a plan to contact DPW — that was between Curley and Schultz).

13. Incorrectly concluded that PSU failed to report Sandusky in 2001 to avoid the consequences of bad publicity (based on a hearsay statement by the attorney for The Second Mile).

14. Incorrectly stated Paterno, Curley, and McQueary should have reported the 2001 incident to comply with the Clery Act (it had not been implemented outside the police force until after 2007).

15. Incorrectly found that Paterno and Curley provided Sandusky with access to facilities for conducting programs for youth (access was granted by PSU’s Outreach Office).

16. Incorrectly recounted the trial testimony regarding the Fall 2000/Victim 8 incident (provided the grand jury version that was very different than the trial testimony).

17. Did not critically analyze testimony in the Fall 2000/Victim 8 incident (how could Petrosky only see the bottoms of the legs if there is no obstruction in front of the showers?).

18. Incorrectly stated that Victim 6 was assaulted (Sandusky was acquitted of that charge).

19. Incorrectly stated that Victim 7 was assaulted (Sandusky was not charged with assault).

20. Incorrectly stated that Victim 5 was assaulted (Sandusky was acquitted of that charge).

http://www.notpsu.blogspot.com/2013/02/freehs-press-conference-undone.html


202 posted on 02/11/2013 6:50:00 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf

“I don’t see the facts

“You actually have to look at them.

I couldn’t disagree more.

I am not willing to hang a man and disregard +50 years of a good life based on innuendo.

Waco Freeh was. You are. You have that right. I expect more of “rule of law” conservatives, but I’m an idealist.

We disagree.

If there is any merit to your claim, then we will see it tried in civil court. There is no criminal trial because there is no evidence of criminality. I also doubt a case can be successfully made in civil court - using actual evidence versus innuendo - that will result in a jury making an award.

That is, unless there are jurors who do not care about facts and prefer innuendo, as you argue here.

Still, I doubt it will happen.

Time will tell.


203 posted on 02/11/2013 7:26:36 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Lurker

If you had morals, you would be ashamed of yourself.

Also - you might want to read the Clemente report.


204 posted on 02/11/2013 7:36:41 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: free me

...and may God judge you and others who ‘rush to condemn without regard to facts’ - with leniency....

‘free me’ indeed


205 posted on 02/11/2013 7:54:59 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: Uncle Chip
If you had done your research you would have known that the police chief involved in the 1998 episode was Chief Harmon of the Penn State University Police Department.

All the more reason PSU officials including Paterno should have acted in regards to Sandusky's activities on campus.

like obeying the law

Please post the law that protects serial child molesters.

206 posted on 02/11/2013 10:45:56 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
If there is any merit to your claim, then we will see it tried in civil court.

My claim? I'm not a litigant.

207 posted on 02/11/2013 10:50:15 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Uncle Chip
Your link provides no evidence

It provides information. Where is your so-called evidence and when and where was it presented in court? Links please.

I requested documentation and you post "at the link and partner sites" as if they hold some legal status.

Freeh Report there as well which you clearly haven’t read.

True or false? "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized." "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse,"

208 posted on 02/11/2013 11:04:03 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Answers to be found in post #202 above —


209 posted on 02/11/2013 11:06:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
http://www.notpsu.blogspot.com/2013/02/freehs-press-conference-undone.html

A blog?

210 posted on 02/11/2013 11:09:07 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Are so stupid that you can't find information in a blog??? Are you that dumb. They even have the Freeh Report there. Have you ever read it???

Pa. 055 Section 3490.

Look it up

211 posted on 02/11/2013 11:17:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
t you can't find information in a blog??

Evidence chippy, not a blogger's biased opinion. Why would Freeh make a report filled with false allegations and lies as you and your bloggers insinuate??

212 posted on 02/11/2013 11:29:15 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Uncle Chip
Answers to be found in post #202 above —

No, those are the opinions of a blogger. Where is your so-called evidence and when and where was it presented in court? Links please.

I requested documentation and you post "at the link and partner sites" as if they hold some legal status.

True or false? "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized." "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse,"

213 posted on 02/11/2013 11:36:23 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

http://www.sportspickle.com/news/13266/paterno-family-investigation-concludes-that-joe-was-a-child-predator-enabling-liar


214 posted on 02/11/2013 11:38:35 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Evidence???

Here is one other person who Freeh forgot to mention who must have been aware of Sandusky’s 1998 incident. How did he forget him. He left this person out of his report. His name — Louie Freeh:

Bombshell: MBNA bank while Freeh was co-chair and general counsel was major corporate sponsor of Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile.

http://www.tominpaine.blogspot.com/2012/09/bombshell-mbna-bank-while-freeh-was-co.html

Read em and weep


215 posted on 02/11/2013 11:43:15 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Dude you are totally desperate.

Give it up.

Nobody but PSU zombies are falling for this crap.

Paterno knew.
Paterno covered it up.
Paterno squashed the Action Plan, thereby not reporting Sandusky to the authorities.


216 posted on 02/11/2013 11:54:07 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Uncle Chip
Read em and weep

More blogs? Your desperation is pathetic.

Why don't you answer, emoter?

True or false? "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized." "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse,"

217 posted on 02/11/2013 12:02:59 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: rbmillerjr

... “Paterno knew”- No one doubts he knew something. The bigger question is what did he know? That is vague. Even McQueery says he was vague when he talked to Paterno.

... “Paterno covered it up” - no evidence. Just innuendo. What do you have?

... “Paterno squashed the Action Plan, thereby not reporting Sandusky to the authorities” - no evidence. Just innuendo. What do you have?


218 posted on 02/11/2013 12:34:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Your efforts are appreciated, but you are wasting your time arguing with some very small nobodies.

FRegards,
LH


219 posted on 02/11/2013 12:44:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You are blinded by your idyllic love for Paterno.

I’ve cited links numerous times and sycophants like yourself are still unable to admit that Paterno was a mere mortal failure.

You sycophants would sell your own children to Sandusky.


220 posted on 02/11/2013 12:47:38 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Alaska Wolf

<>True or false? “The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized.”<>

Would that include MBNA, its directors, and vice chair Louie Freeh who were financiers of Sandusky’s Second Mile Charity:

MBNA To Sponsor Sandusky Testimonial Dinner And Roast

February 28, 2000
University Park, Pa. — MBNA America has agreed to be the lead sponsor for the MBNA Jerry Sandusky Testimonial Dinner and Roast, scheduled for Friday, April 14, 2000.

Hosted by Penn State Intercollegiate Athletics, the event will be held at the Bryce Jordan Center and will kickoff the annual Blue/White Weekend in University Park. The dinner and roast will be attended by an impressive lineup of past players, coaches, Penn State administrators, and others who wish to share their thoughts and some untold stories about the retired Penn State Nittany Lion football coach.

Net proceeds from the event will benefit The Second Mile through a newly established Second Mile/Jerry Sandusky endowment fund. Longtime defensive coordinator for the Nittany Lions, Jerry Sandusky, 55, retired last year after 32 years as a member of the Penn State football coaching staff to devote more of his time to The Second Mile.

http://www.psu.edu/ur/2000/sanduskydinner.html

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Louis Freeh, the man hired by Penn State University to run “an independent investigative review into all aspects of the University’s actions with regard to the allegations of child abuse” by Jerry Sandusky, spent five years and collected millions of dollars as a senior executive of a big financial company that enjoyed a long-running business relationship with Penn State, its alumni association and Sandusky’s boss, former football coach Joe Paterno.

Freeh, who headed the FBI for eight years until 2001, spent the next five years as vice chairman at MBNA Corp., where his titles included general counsel. Penn State’s announcement notes his earlier FBI service, and his previous, short stint as a federal judge, but does not mention his years spent working for MBNA, which paid the school millions of dollars for access to students and alumni. Freeh journeyed to Penn State in 2005 as featured speaker at a Penn State assembly where his colleague Ric Struthers, who managed the lucrative relationship between bank and school was guest of honor.

Struthers, later head of Bank of America’s credit card unit, is the highest-profile national businessman on the board of Sandusky’s Second Mile Foundation, which a Pennsylvania grand jury report alleged Sandusky used to find abuse victims.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-phillydeals/Penn-State-investigator-was-exec-at-firm-with-PSU-ties.html


221 posted on 02/11/2013 12:59:05 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: All

http://www.sportspickle.com/news/13190/penn-state-announces-plans-to-build-a-slightly-smaller-joe-paterno-statue

Other PSU news


222 posted on 02/11/2013 1:02:54 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Uncle Chip
Can't you answer the simple true or false question, emoter? I've posted it a number of times and you continue to mindlessly spin.

True or false? "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized." "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse,"

223 posted on 02/11/2013 1:06:07 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks — You’re right.


224 posted on 02/11/2013 1:07:13 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Lancey Howard; Uncle Chip
very small nobodies

Don't go away uninformed and angry, annelids.

Paterno's legacy already had come into serious question prior to the Freeh report. Former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, a contemporary and friend who is second in major college football wins behind Paterno (409 to 377), believes Thursday's report has permanently tarnished Paterno's image. "Here's a guy who makes one terrible mistake, one of the most terrible in college athletics," Bowden said during a phone interview with the Patriot-News. "I'm afraid that will be his legacy. When people talk about Joe in the future, it will all come back to this."

Freeh said Sandusky's conduct was in part a result of the school's lack of transparency, which stemmed from a "failure of governance" on the part of officials and the board of trustees. He said the collective inaction and mindset at the top of the university trickled all the way down to a school janitor who was afraid for his job and opted to not report seeing sex abuse in a school locker room in 2000.

225 posted on 02/11/2013 1:55:46 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: rbmillerjr

“You are blinded by your idyllic love for Paterno.”

If you read this thread, you will know I do not love Paterno and don’t much like him.

“I’ve cited links numerous times and sycophants like yourself are still unable to admit that Paterno was a mere mortal failure.”

citations and links are not evidence. When you find some, if ever, just post it. I am willing to accept any actual facts that prove your claim. You haven’t provided them.

“You sycophants would sell your own children to Sandusky.”

Here is where you veered your car off the road and went hurtling down the cliff, before crashing and burning. I used to think it was just liberals who make emotional arguments and false accusations. Your post proves conservatives fall into this trap also.

Here’s a tip. When you idolize, you demonize.


226 posted on 02/11/2013 2:00:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You people are the jokes of rational argument and common sense.

It would be hilarious were it not for the number of children that were abused after 2001, that didn’t have to be, were Joe Paterno to merely live out the rules of integrity that he espoused.


227 posted on 02/11/2013 2:15:42 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: rbmillerjr
It would be hilarious were it not for the number of children that were abused after 2001

2001 -- isn't that the year that Louie Freeh joined MBNA, a major sponsor of the Sandusky Second Mile Charity where all of the kids who he abused came from???

Louie has so many skeletons in his closet that they are all falling out. One of those is his time at MBNA sponsoring Sandusky's child exploits at the Second Mile for years.

No wonder he didn't interview the directors at the Second Mile and left them off the hook. They might have pointed back to him.

You can believe compromised unethical prefabricating Louie Freeh all you want.

Those of us who disdain those things will go with Thornburgh's report.

228 posted on 02/11/2013 2:48:53 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
2001 -- isn't that the year that Louie Freeh joined MBNA

Are you ridiculously implying that MBNA and PSU are one and the same? LOL!!!!! Is every sponsor affiliated with PSU and Second Mile guilty by association? Your desperation is pathetic.

229 posted on 02/11/2013 2:57:47 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Is every sponsor affiliated with PSU and Second Mile guilty by association?

Not every sponsor had a seat on the Board like MBNA.

And not every sponsor with a seat on the Board had a vice chair and general counsel subsequently paid $6.5 million to fix blame for Sandusky's child exploits on anyone and anything other than the charity where you had a seat on the Board.

You spend over 6 years sponsoring, financing, promoting, supporting a child molester and his charity and then you are paid millions to produce an investigative report.

And in that report you white wash the culpability of those at Second Mile clear out of it.

And in that report you fail to mention your own previous involvement with Sandusky and the Second Mile that would compromise its objectivity??

And you don't see anything wrong with that???

WOW!!!

230 posted on 02/11/2013 3:38:24 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

You are desperately deflecting.

Alinsky demonization of Freeh now lol.


231 posted on 02/11/2013 3:40:58 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Uncle Chip
Try to focus on the subject at hand. Running off on tangents and obfuscating doesn't impress me.

Can't you answer the simple true or false question, emoter? I've posted it a number of times and you continue to mindlessly spin.]

True or false? "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized." "In order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at the university -- Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley -- repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse,"

Paterno's legacy already had come into serious question prior to the Freeh report. Former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, a contemporary and friend who is second in major college football wins behind Paterno (409 to 377), believes Thursday's report has permanently tarnished Paterno's image. "Here's a guy who makes one terrible mistake, one of the most terrible in college athletics," Bowden said during a phone interview with the Patriot-News. "I'm afraid that will be his legacy. When people talk about Joe in the future, it will all come back to this."

Freeh said Sandusky's conduct was in part a result of the school's lack of transparency, which stemmed from a "failure of governance" on the part of officials and the board of trustees. He said the collective inaction and mindset at the top of the university trickled all the way down to a school janitor who was afraid for his job and opted to not report seeing sex abuse in a school locker room in 2000.

"Officials and board of trustees"........Hadn't you previously claimed the BOT wasn't implicated?

232 posted on 02/11/2013 3:50:35 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: rbmillerjr

“You people are the jokes of rational argument and common sense.”

This is simply name-calling. I will take this as your admitting you’ve got nothing.

“It would be hilarious were it not for the number of children that were abused after 2001, that didn’t have to be, were Joe Paterno to merely live out the rules of integrity that he espoused.”

It apparently does not matter to you that the charges in ‘98 were investigated by police and child welfare and there was not enough evidence to more forward. Somehow, that implicates Paterno... got it.


233 posted on 02/11/2013 3:53:59 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Alinsky demonization of Freeh now lol.

Alinsky???

Did he have a seat on the Board of Sandusky's charity as Freeh's superior at MBNA did???

Did he sponsor and finance Sandusky's child exploits as Freeh's MBNA did???

Surely the Board knew about Sandusky, and if the Board knew then Freeh knew.

What did Freeh know and when did he know it???

Someone needs to send him a subpoena.

234 posted on 02/11/2013 4:02:02 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; rbmillerjr; All
You can believe compromised unethical prefabricating Louie Freeh all you want.

Let me get this straight:

MULTIPLE Penn State admins, already having their associate Penn State admins (3 for now) in deep cow dung for protecting a child-rapist for 8-10 years, made an administrative decision to hire an "unethical" report-"prefabricator" on this matter.

Hmmm...IF what you say is so with this indictment of yours, then the Penn State admin culture is MUCH worse than the rest of us thought [& it's frankly pretty hard to sink lower when that group is treading water & drowning in the sewer culture of sanctioning child sexual grooming & repeat sexual abuse]

If this indictment of yours is true, then on TOP of what already Penn State has evidenced to the world ...
(a) The Commonwealth of PA needs to cut off the 10% of funding that Penn State receives (minus any accountability it has back to the state);
(b) Ped State...Corruption State...needs to be booted out of its Conference...lest its reputation drag down the rest...tho, to be honest, the University of Indiana already sullies it enough via its total sanctioning of Kinsey & HIS pedophilia...The Big 10 IS the pedophile capital of the country!!!
(c) Serious discussions need to be held about whether its football program should ever be allowed to revive itself, lest it continue to permanently contaminate every B.A. & grad degree that its grads receive...

I think Penn State needs to conduct a total exorcism of its administrative program and simply ask EVERY admin & sports-related employee that was present as of 2011 to voluntarily retire...and if they fail to do that, the Board of Trustees -- before stepping down themselves -- should fire them...

You've painted a DEEP, DISTURBING picture of even more corruption at this "pit"...

Which translates into that the NCAA didn't even begin to go far enough in its sanctions...The NCAA needs to come in with "Round II" of its penalties and wallop 'em again!

235 posted on 02/11/2013 5:35:58 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Alaska Wolf

It does blow any possible claim of impartiality by Freeh out of the water. Whatever his actual relationship with Sandusky was, this connection shows that he did have a vested interest in how his report concluded.


236 posted on 02/11/2013 5:40:05 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Btw, Chip, could you explain for ALL of us why Penn State still has two child-rape protectors (AD Curley & Professor Spanier) on its payroll??? (Note: Spanier only stepped down from his president role; my understanding is that he is still a tenured prof there...am I right or wrong on that?)

Why weren't they fired?

And doesn't this add even another level of indictment vs. the Penn State admins & the Penn State culture in general?

Where is the missing hue & cry from the Nittany Lion grassroots to kick these two out vs...going on a full two years now of paying Curley's salary for him being sidelined by criminal non-activity???

I guess we see how "provoked" State College culture is about child abuse when they continue to line the pockets of the Penn State AD...and allow Spanier access to the classroom...

237 posted on 02/11/2013 5:41:28 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Here is the article announcing the hiring of Louie Freeh. Notice how his curriculum vitae magically ends at 2001 —

http://live.psu.edu/story/56476

They knew they were wrong to hire him and they didn’t think anybody would notice or make an issue out of it or ask what he was doing from 2001 through 2006.


238 posted on 02/11/2013 6:10:56 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; Lancey Howard; aMorePerfectUnion; FlJoePa; NittanyLion
Nike co-founder Phil Knight is blasting the Freeh report and the NCAA:

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"Nike co-founder Phil Knight reversed himself regarding former Penn State gridiron coach Joe Paterno after a new report that criticized the original pedophilia investigation commissioned by the school.

Last July's findings by former FBI director Louis Freeh found Paterno should have done more to stop Jerry Sandusky, his assistant coach who was convicted last year on 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

Knight had been one of Paterno's most ardent supporters but said after the Freeh report that "it appears Joe made missteps that led to heartbreaking consequences."

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But Knight, who released a statement Monday via ESPN, said that after the Paterno family's rebuttal report, "it is clear that the findings of the Freeh Report were unjustified and unsubstantiated."

Knight said his rebuke of Paterno was made without having read Freeh's report in full and that when he later examined it, "I was surprised to learn that the alarming allegations, which so disturbed the nation, were essentially theories and assertions rather than solid charges backed by solid evidence.

"On reflection I may have unintentionally contributed to a rush to judgment.

"When this tragic story first unfolded Joe cautioned all of us to slow down and carefully gather the facts before jumping to conclusions. We owed it to the victims, he said, to get to the truth. It was counsel we all should have followed."

Knight also blasted the National Collegiate Athletic Assiociation (NCAA), which has member schools that have multi-million-dollar sponsorship deals with Nike. The NCAA hit Penn State with a four-year ban from lucrative bowl games, a $60 million fine and the wiping out of 112 Paterno victories from 1998-2011.

"The NCAA's actions are exposed as totally unwarranted," Knight said. The NCAA acted outside its charter and rendered judgment absent any kind of investigation or judicial hearing. It was simply grandstanding."

Nike boss performs u-turn over Paterno after new report

239 posted on 02/11/2013 7:20:39 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for the ping!

The knee-jerk chattering class, acting like a mindless lynch mob, found a big convenient target and tore down Joe’s statue along with his reputation. And now the smug little bastards can feel all good about themselves. I maintain that history will vindicate Joe Paterno.

The rest of that Penn State crew, however - - well, those trials should be VERY interesting. If their strategy was to throw the old dead guy under the bus, the Thornburgh report just made that gambit a lot tougher to pull off.


240 posted on 02/11/2013 9:03:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
If their strategy was to throw the old dead guy under the bus, the Thornburgh report just made that gambit a lot tougher to pull off.

Agreed. The Freeh Report can't withstand close scrunity by any objective measure. As for the NCAA, it deserves whatever pain comes it's way.

241 posted on 02/11/2013 9:37:02 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Delta Dawn
he did have a vested interest

How? What did Freeh have to gain? PSU hired and paid him and his law firm to lay blame on the board of trustees and the administration? That makes absolutely no sense.

242 posted on 02/11/2013 9:39:26 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

The Fan Club never gives up, and would dismiss any report, while babbling about “objective measures” and future “history”, as if any history remembered any college jock trainers. For people who had never heard about this pederast enabler Paterno before this scandal, the evidence presented is sufficient to make their own objective judgment.


243 posted on 02/11/2013 9:45:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Alaska Wolf
What did Freeh have to gain? PSU hired and paid him and his law firm to lay blame on the board of trustees and the administration?

You clearly haven't read the Freeh Report. He absolves the Trustees from any blame saying that they didn't know because they were left in the dark.

And let's not forget that atleast a third of the Trustees are political appointees from Harrisburg where, among other things, the state agency that approved all of Sandusky's adoptions and failed to indict Sandusky in 1998 is located.

Freeh's hatchet job protected the state government, the Trustees, the DPW, the CYS, the AG's office, and the Second Mile Charity.

244 posted on 02/11/2013 10:15:52 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
He absolves the Trustees from any blame

Why do you lie? You're a mental case!

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8159195/report-says-penn-state-nittany-lions-senior-officials-disregarded-children-welfare

Freeh said Sandusky's conduct was in part a result of the school's lack of transparency, which stemmed from a "failure of governance" on the part of officials and the board of trustees. He said the collective inaction and mindset at the top of the university trickled all the way down to a school janitor who was afraid for his job and opted to not report seeing sex abuse in a school locker room in 2000.

245 posted on 02/11/2013 10:48:47 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Revolting cat!
The Fan Club never gives up

They've now begun with outright lies.

246 posted on 02/11/2013 10:55:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Freeh said Sandusky's conduct was in part a result of the school's lack of transparency, which stemmed from a "failure of governance" on the part of officials and the board of trustees.

That's what I said. you half-witted idiot. You are as full of accusations as your hero Louie. Are you incapable of comprehending words like him as well???

You've got the same mental illness that Freeh does. No wonder you worship him.

247 posted on 02/12/2013 5:13:40 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf
Freeh said Sandusky's conduct was in part a result of the school's lack of transparency, which stemmed from a "failure of governance" on the part of officials and the board of trustees.

And btw -- let's deal with Louies's lie here:

He didn't throw them all in the same boat. He didn't single out members of the Board as he did members of the administration.

And he goes on to accuse Spanier, Schulz, Curley, and Paterno in his report of a "cover-up" -- not a "failure of governance".

Louie knows very well that "cover-ups" are part of "governance" as he has been part of a lot of cover-ups in his years in government, and this report of his was one as well.

"Failure of governance" is what Louie reserved for the Trustees. It's politi-speak that means "they weren't part of the cover-up".

These are the same Trustees who approved Sandusky's retirement agreement and gave his charity a sweetheart deal to stay on campus. Is that "failure of governance" or contribution to the delinquency of a child molester.

You should quit while you're behind. You're only digging Louie a deeper hole.

248 posted on 02/12/2013 5:42:37 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf

http://www.sportspickle.com/news/7510/penn-state-admits-joe-paterno-has-just-been-a-guy-in-a-joepa-costume-since-1996

This could explain things.


249 posted on 02/12/2013 6:38:57 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Colofornian

Your logic is inescapable. To help their guy, Paterno’s defenders must defy commonsense, and the stretch is considerable. Clearly, Paterno DID NOT WANT TO KNOW. His ignorance was willful. Inescapably, he placed Penn State’s reputation, and his own, above the welfare of children.


250 posted on 02/12/2013 7:00:01 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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