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GOP hopes for better ties with Hispanics, blacks
Yahoo ^ | Feb 9, 2013 | CHARLES BABINGTON | Associated Press

Posted on 02/10/2013 1:07:55 PM PST by mdittmar

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican Party's problems with minority voters have preoccupied strategists since November, and it's possible those difficulties will persist or worsen.

But an opening for marked improvements in GOP-minority relations may be at hand, or at least close by.

Republican leaders would have to make some timely decisions and get a few breaks, which campaign consultants don't rule out.

The party desperately needs to draw more support from Latinos, a fast-growing sector that gave President Barack Obama 71 percent of its vote last fall. Two big opportunities now present themselves.

If Republican lawmakers allow far-reaching immigration changes to become law, even if most of them vote against it, the nettlesome issue might fade from political headlines and perhaps ease anti-GOP feelings among Hispanics. If Republicans in 2016 nominate a Latino for president — say Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida — it's possible that millions of Hispanic voters would back him.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; amnestypimps; rinos4amnesty
Gotta love AP headlines;)
1 posted on 02/10/2013 1:07:58 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Hey, I got an idea, let’s give them amnesty and more freebies.


2 posted on 02/10/2013 1:11:12 PM PST by umgud
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To: mdittmar

hope springs eternal.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 1:12:17 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: mdittmar

There’s a saying in the South where a Southerner is addressing a Northerner. It goes something like this. Welcome to the South, unless you are going to vote like you did in the North. Please go back to the North if you intend to vote like a Yankee.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 1:16:39 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: umgud

I like where you’re going with that. Let’s also give the reply to the SOTU in Spanish...and Ebonics. A free Cheech and Chong DVD for the Hispanics, and Soul Plane for the blacks.


5 posted on 02/10/2013 1:21:33 PM PST by EEGator
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To: mdittmar
... ease anti-GOP feelings among Hispanics
If they're anti-GOP because the GOP upholds the law, they can go piss up a rope.
Same goes for the pro-abortion, pro-queer SOBs too.
6 posted on 02/10/2013 1:24:44 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mdittmar

You can try to play the game of politics,
or you can try to govern the country.

Unfortunately, the GOP tries to play politics (which they suck at) and therefore never gets a chance to govern the country.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 1:27:08 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: mdittmar

Lets see.....?????How about better ties with conservatives.


8 posted on 02/10/2013 1:34:55 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: mdittmar

What’s in YOUR wallet?


9 posted on 02/10/2013 1:38:01 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: mdittmar

The GOPe should show them how wishy-washy they are on principles. That will bring them in. /s


10 posted on 02/10/2013 1:38:03 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: mdittmar

I am sick of this pandering. There is significant portion of the Hispanic population who oppose illegal immigration. The GOP just needs to draw its current voting block and draw a bigger chunk of these level-headed Hispanics and they can win the next few election cycles. Blacks are lost to the Republicans for at least a decade or more. If the repubs go to far in this pandering, they will lose a big chunk of their base and they will lose for years to come.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 1:39:25 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: mdittmar
The GOP dosen't know how to pander. They have nothing to offer the Democrat Party can't better.
12 posted on 02/10/2013 1:45:27 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: 3Fingas
There is significant portion of the Hispanic population who oppose illegal immigration.

True, unfortunately most of them also want free stuff so they'll vote Democrat anyway.

The problem is that Hispanic's, particularly from Mexico, are a natural leftist constituency. They voted socialist in Mexico and vote the same way here in the US. In that regard they are no different than liberals fleeing failed blue states, yet they vote the same way (Democrat) in their new red state homes. These people are like locusts.

Sadly, many people simply never make a connection between their voting for leftist candidates and the economic failure that followers. You'd think they'd learn but most don't - and that is because voting tends to be more of a generational thing than it is based on cause and effect. Once someone has a leftist, collectivist mindset, there is usually little chance to change their mind. That means the rapidly growing Hispanic demographic is probably going to continue to vote left for a least another generation - and probably for generations to come.

13 posted on 02/10/2013 2:01:24 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: mosaicwolf; All
This is nothing more than the ap putting out a headline that follows the dem playbook.

Use to care what happened to The Grand Old Party,don't anymore.

"It is to be hoped, that if our cause is just, as I do most religiously believe it to be, the same Providence which in many instances appeared for us, will still go on to afford its aid."

14 posted on 02/10/2013 2:04:04 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: umgud
Hey, I got an idea, let’s give them amnesty and more freebies.

LOL, good idea (sarc) We could give them the whole universe, and they would still vote RAT. I do not see anything that can be done wisely. Unfortunately, that is why I think there is little hope for America. Another thing that some minorities have told me personally, is they do not care if the country goes to hell in a hand basket, as long as non minorities get hurt in the process, and they consider the Rats as the best ones to hurt non minorities.

15 posted on 02/10/2013 2:04:04 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: mdittmar

Well, the GOP can hope all it or they want(s), but the fact is that the base is gone for the most part and is likely to never come back.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 2:09:25 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: mdittmar

Reagan won w/o the Hispanic vote.

How about the GOP reach out to the BASE! Millions among the BASE didn’t vote in the presidential election.


17 posted on 02/10/2013 2:10:32 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mdittmar
No doubt pandering to the leftists all the way, when is someone just going to announce the formation of a third party? I mean come on now, its about F-—ing time now, isn`t it? Jeez, I`m so sick of that rat wanna-be party!
18 posted on 02/10/2013 2:26:43 PM PST by nomad
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To: mdittmar

The majority of blacks and Hispanics are more comfortable as Democrats. We need to let that be...


19 posted on 02/10/2013 2:40:27 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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To: no-to-illegals

Welcome to Arizona unless you’re from California and intend to vote like a liberal Californian. Stay the hell out of Arizona if you’re a stinking liberal


20 posted on 02/10/2013 2:40:34 PM PST by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: clamper1797

We Southerners lost the War therefore we have to be a little nicer.....LOL


21 posted on 02/10/2013 2:46:12 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: umgud

Republicans will suck up to Blacks and Hispanics. They will not gain anything by doing it , but they will lose the support they have.

Who does their figuring fo them?


22 posted on 02/10/2013 2:50:38 PM PST by Venturer
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To: mdittmar

How often do we here the same old BS. The bottom line the average pubbie works for a living and is against food stamps, welfare, unlimited unemployment and all the other freebies.


23 posted on 02/10/2013 3:09:11 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: nomad
...when is someone just going to announce the formation of a third party?

That may be your best bet. It takes time, but it's worth it

24 posted on 02/10/2013 3:21:00 PM PST by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: mdittmar

The GOP better stop peeing off their base ....there aren’t enough Hispanics to replace them


25 posted on 02/10/2013 3:35:26 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Sun
Reagan won w/o the Hispanic vote.

That was over thirty years ago. A very different country.

I'm not saying we have to Hispander, but we do have to make our case to them convincingly. All the saber-rattling hinders that, and turns off a demographic that we could win on the issues.
26 posted on 02/10/2013 5:24:42 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: mdittmar

Morons.


27 posted on 02/10/2013 8:21:05 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: highball

“That was over thirty years ago. ..”

Not much more than a mere three MONTHS ago, Romney lost millions of Republican votes. Many were focused on getting the Independent votes, and Romney GOT those Independent votes, and still LOST the election.

Sure, it doesn’t hurt to get the Hispanic (or Independent) votes, but let’s not lose sight that there are MORE votes in the base that we could lose and HAVE lost.


28 posted on 02/10/2013 8:27:12 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: highball; wardaddy; AuntB

“All the saber-rattling hinders that, and turns off a demographic that we could win on the issues. “

I take it that ‘saber-rattling’ translates as ‘sending foreign nationals back to their own country’ or ‘enforcing the law’, something that comes in a distant second to ethnic pandering in your mind.


29 posted on 02/10/2013 8:40:24 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: mdittmar

Why don’t they just merge with the Democrats and get it over with?


30 posted on 02/10/2013 8:44:07 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Why don’t they just merge with the Democrats and get it over with?”

They already have. Thankfully, there are a few exceptions.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 9:07:12 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mdittmar

We would have won the election had we put up a decent candidate. We put up the worst candidate in history of the Republican party and now we are wondering what to do next round. It is not demographics. It has to do with picking a dud like Romney who was destined to lose the minute he was chosen. Romney absolutely SUCKS bad!!!!!!! Pick a loser Republicans and he will live up to that name.


32 posted on 02/11/2013 4:08:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (/)
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To: Pelham
I take it that ‘saber-rattling’ translates as ‘sending foreign nationals back to their own country’ or ‘enforcing the law’, something that comes in a distant second to ethnic pandering in your mind.

'Saber rattling' in this context is tough talk that nobody actually thinks could become public policy. Makes us feel better, but alienates voters who would agree with us on enough issues to vote our way.

We don't even end up with small measures that way.
33 posted on 02/11/2013 8:12:07 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

“’Saber rattling’ in this context is tough talk that nobody actually thinks could become public policy. “

Meaning that you put the demands of foreign nationals first and can’t imagine anyone actually enforcing the law.

Dwight Eisenhower had no such problem. His policy for ridding the United States of illegal aliens was Operation Wetback. The PC crowd of opportunists making up today’s GOP can’t even utter the name, much less imagine themselves deporting illegals back to their homes. What cowards.

There is core of opportunists within the GOP who put foreign nationals first, falling all over themselves in their haste to subvert American law as fast as they can. It’s a fascinating marriage of law-ignoring foreign nationals and The Stupid Party’s elites. The best part is that none of the grovelling and pandering will garner The Stupid Party the latino votes that they are whoring after.


34 posted on 02/11/2013 10:30:40 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: Pelham

No, “saber rattling” means cheap tough talk instead of the hard work of convincing people of the correctness of our position.

Sensible immigration reform, not to mention enforcing the laws we already have, is a reasonable position that we could sell to the country. But simplistic rhetoric and ethnic slurs play into media caricatures, turn off people on all sides of the issue and make meaningful reform all the more difficult.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 5:20:45 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
I'm not saying we have to Hispander, but we do have to make our case to them convincingly.

Exactly; the same as they have to do with conservatives. Make the case and win their vote. If they simply lay out the case that a smaller government and the stronger economy that results from it are the best thing for themselves and their families, they'll win plenty of those voters. And that won't happen unless they go to where those voters are and talk to them.

36 posted on 02/16/2013 10:16:33 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: highball
Sensible immigration reform, not to mention enforcing the laws we already have, is a reasonable position that we could sell to the country. But simplistic rhetoric and ethnic slurs play into media caricatures, turn off people on all sides of the issue and make meaningful reform all the more difficult.

I agree. And immediately dumping an otherwise good possible candidate because he or she doesn't adopt the 'send them all home NOW' policy is only helping liberals in their continued march toward domination in this country.

We need to remember that liberals didn't get all their favorite policies in place in one fell swoop! They worked at it, incrementally, over the past 50 years. If we demand that our candidates try to do everything we want, immediately, the will not get elected by those who listen to the MSM and are convinced that adopting those policies will put black people back in chains, and force women to stay at home and have babies. You can laugh, but we have to deal with those 'low information' voters, or I should say they have lots of information, but all the wrong kind. We can scoff at them all we want, but they will go out to vote, and we have to REACH them, somehow, before they do.

37 posted on 02/16/2013 10:59:42 AM PST by SuziQ
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