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Foul conditions aboard stranded Carnival cruise ship Triumph: sewage running down the walls
NY Daily News ^ | 2/12/13 | ERIK ORTIZ AND DAVID KNOWLES

Posted on 02/12/2013 10:26:50 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: jimbo123

Why don’t they use the poop deck?


51 posted on 02/12/2013 11:51:52 AM PST by rhinohunter
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To: jimbo123

Would make for a great Democrat National Convention site.


52 posted on 02/12/2013 12:00:05 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Amen. With their track record, it’s a wonder they’re still in business.


53 posted on 02/12/2013 12:00:43 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Comment_Police

Note to self-—vacation only where the hordes of sheeples ain’t.


54 posted on 02/12/2013 12:04:45 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

“If someone had told me that kind of this was frowned upon.”


55 posted on 02/12/2013 12:04:47 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Marcella

Know how you feel. Mentioned earlier that I got norovirus on a cruise. Miserable to say the least.

Never again...


56 posted on 02/12/2013 12:07:02 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: TheRhinelander

I wouldn’t go on a Carnival cruise AT ALL.

http://www.cruiseshiprapes.com/

http://www.cruiseshiprapes.com/Sexual_Assaults/Sexual_Assaults_On_Crew/Yurij_Senes.html


57 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:32 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Tennessee Nana

They have laws against transfers.


58 posted on 02/12/2013 12:13:18 PM PST by Domangart
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To: illiac
“Mentioned earlier that I got norovirus on a cruise. Miserable to say the least.”

And when you're sick, you still can't get off that ship. We were so sick and felt like prisoners in that small room.

There is no way to make a ship medically clean. All those passengers are touching surfaces everywhere you go, including the dining rooms. One passenger with bacterial germs or a virus can infect the whole ship fast - then you are sick and can't call your doctor, can't go to your doctor, can't use your own over the counter measures to help yourself, you are just stuck.

Why that speaker didn't come on and say there was medicine available, I don't know. The freaking speaker came on at 7 am every day telling of various activities. If I had a grenade I would have set it on top of the speaker with the pin out and walked out of the room until the speaker was silenced, then gone back to bed to sleep - that's how much I hated that speaker.

59 posted on 02/12/2013 12:23:07 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Life is a Carnival—The Band..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9tYdvrFgk&list=PL8D6A456D6C222787


60 posted on 02/12/2013 12:37:42 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TheRhinelander

Carnival is the Chuck-E-Cheese of the high seas.

I advised my coworker to honeymoon on Royal Caribbean instead. They did & we have been invited to their house many times since.


61 posted on 02/12/2013 12:42:43 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: illiac

That wuz quick ...


62 posted on 02/12/2013 1:04:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jimbo123
This is insane. The ship should have been evacuated immediately.

I heard this AM that two tugboats are on the way, and should arrive by THURSDAY!

Everyone on board is going to be sick.

63 posted on 02/12/2013 1:07:05 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: jimbo123

Cruises suck.


64 posted on 02/12/2013 1:25:50 PM PST by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: nascarnation

So the part of the story that says full refund and another free cruise in the future is bogus?
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At least it is obvious to ME that my comment was sarcastic.

I didn’t bother reading ‘below the fold’ because the lead in was so well written and presented and answered most questions.
(that also is sarcasm - looks like something an 8 yo would write,just missing a few ‘ya knows’ and ‘likes’).


65 posted on 02/12/2013 1:30:50 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Just got back from a wonderful 7 day cruise on Royal Caribbean. There were Purell stations EVERYWHERE, and you weren’t even allowed in a dining area without using one. The captain announced that staff and crew were no longer shaking hands with passengers and there was a video running on TV showing the proper way to sanitize your hands with Purell.

My main thought was that I wished I were the Purell salesman!

We didn’t get sick and had an incredible experience.


66 posted on 02/12/2013 1:44:27 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: jimbo123

Zombies! A prelude to zombies with class in the near future (bond collapse, pension cuts, market collapse, government layoffs, etc.).


67 posted on 02/12/2013 1:58:16 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: stuartcr
I imagine the potential liability for at-sea transfers of that number of people would be an unacceptable risk.

Yes, transferring food and water between ships presents minimal risk. If you drop a load of food into the drink, it's no big deal. Dropping a passenger in is a whole different story.

68 posted on 02/12/2013 2:05:26 PM PST by Bob
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yeah, I went on Carnival once, never again.


69 posted on 02/12/2013 2:07:33 PM PST by rusty millet
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To: xrmusn

No, I assumed you had insider knowledge of the contracts.
I’ve been on a lot of cruises but never read the “fine print”.


70 posted on 02/12/2013 2:19:07 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I believe they haven’t evacuated them because an accident may happen on one of the lifeboats. Those boats are far up and not used very often. There was an incident a week ago in Malta where 8 crew were doing a lifeboat drill at the dock in calm water. The boat fell, killing 5.


71 posted on 02/12/2013 2:39:52 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: nascarnation

No, I assumed you had insider knowledge of the contracts
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Ah, I see the ‘cornfusion’....

I just reread and that SHOULD have been “UNLESS YOU REMAIN ABOARD”

Sorry about that....(and I scoffed at ‘their editing - or lack of’ <: <: <:)


72 posted on 02/12/2013 2:51:06 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: elcid1970

Interesting comment.

I’ve been on several cruises on both Carnival and RC and would definitely rate Carnival as better, especially the grub.

Both are competitors in the “mass market” of cruises.


73 posted on 02/12/2013 2:58:47 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: jimbo123

Welcome to Carnival Cruise Lines.

Tonight’s special will be:

Cryptosporidium and Giardia

Gram Negative Bacteria

Hepatitis A

Leptospirosis

Tenanus

along with a nightcap of raw sewage running down the walls. Enjoy!


74 posted on 02/12/2013 3:12:35 PM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Yes! Live! Life's a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death!)
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To: cuban leaf
My wife’s father calls them a floating Motel 6 with an all you can eat denny’s on board.

Now that's class...LOL

75 posted on 02/12/2013 3:16:17 PM PST by GOPJ ( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
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To: familyop

Yes, then every neighborhood in the U.S. will be just like that poor ship!


76 posted on 02/12/2013 3:22:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Comment_Police
Yeah, I’m sure all news outlets check the donation records of every company involved in every story before they print.

No they don't do that - and I didn't say they did - but there IS a group-think within the MSM. And it tends to run along political lines. Here's some examples: Walmart. Tea Party. Occupy. NOW. NRA. Liberal whistle blowers. Conservative whistle blowers. Democrats. Republicans. Oil Companies. Natural Food Stores. The "Arts'. Gays. Cops. Military. Green Energy, College Professors. Businessmen. ...

With few exceptions the MSM finds these groups GOOD: Occupy NOW Liberal whistle blowers, Democrats Natural Food Stores, Target, the Arts, NOW, Occupy, Green energy, Gays, and College Professors, Unions.

With few exceptions the MSM finds these groups BAD: Tea Party, conservative whistle blowers, NRA, Republicans, Oil Companies, Cops, the Military, Businessmen, Walmart...

The groups the MSM likes just happen to be groups that support Democrats - with people and money. I don't believe anyone in a newsroom looks up what the contributions are or arn't, but most people have an idea which groups tend liberal and which tend conservative. The MSM favors the one's who tend liberal.

If you think otherwise - please give me some examples. Facts work better than 'attitude'...

77 posted on 02/12/2013 3:45:28 PM PST by GOPJ ( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
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To: Comment_Police
Yeah, I’m sure all news outlets check the donation records of every company involved in every story before they print.

No they don't do that - and I didn't say they did... But there IS a group-think within the MSM. It runs along political lines. Here's some examples - how would the MSM 'feel' about these groups: Walmart. Tea Party. Occupy. NOW. NRA. Liberal whistle blowers. Conservative whistle blowers. Democrats. Republicans. Oil Companies. Natural Food Stores. The "Arts'. Gays. Cops. Military. Green Energy, College Professors. Businessmen. ...

With few exceptions the MSM finds these groups GOOD: Occupy NOW Liberal whistle blowers, Democrats Natural Food Stores, Target, the Arts, NOW, Occupy, Green energy, Gays, and College Professors, Unions.

With few exceptions the MSM finds these groups BAD: Tea Party, conservative whistle blowers, NRA, Republicans, Oil Companies, Cops, the Military, Businessmen, Walmart...

The groups the MSM likes just happen to be groups that support Democrats - with people and money. I don't believe anyone in a newsroom looks up what the contributions are or arn't, but most people have an idea which groups tend liberal and which tend conservative. The MSM favors groups that tend liberal.

If you think otherwise - please give me some examples. Facts are more welcome than 'attitude'... got some?

78 posted on 02/12/2013 3:49:13 PM PST by GOPJ ( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
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To: vette6387
It’s to get around the cost of US crews and more importantly, US inspections.

Which, of course, are geared towards union labor and overweening government nanniness which drive up the costs to the point that most of these people wouldn't be taking a cruise. There's a reason there aren't any lines with American-crewed ships.

There are some good ones, though. Holland-America and Cunard aren't bad, for example.

I remember my sister's first cruise in the eighties. She was so looking forward to it. It was Carnival. She's a foodie -- described it as a giant Shoney's with an ocean view.

79 posted on 02/12/2013 4:33:40 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

It is being towed to Mobile AL.


80 posted on 02/12/2013 4:41:59 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: BfloGuy

“Which, of course, are geared towards union labor and overweening government nanniness which drive up the costs “

True, and I don’t like unions any more than you do. That said, the cruise ships evidently look at cost cutting over safety. I can’t imagine one of our Navy vessels being run like most of the cruise ships today. You’ve even got Captain Mario Hotpants, scheming on a woman while his ship is sinking over in Italy.


81 posted on 02/12/2013 8:20:26 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

“just ask yourself why you would ever “sail” on a ship that was registered in LIberia or
Panama? It’s to get around the cost of US crews and more importantly, US inspections.”

_________________

And soon these same people will be caring for you when you are ill and really need a good, experienced doc.

But they will have to do.


82 posted on 02/12/2013 8:32:19 PM PST by Dysart
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To: jimbo123

I found out today that one of my cousins is on that ship.


83 posted on 02/12/2013 11:07:10 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: jimbo123

“It’s like a bunch of savages on there,” he added. “If you get on the blogs, they’re saying that people are fighting over food and stuff.”

Hmmmm. THat sounds pretty much like the last 2 cruises I’ve taken.

Never again.


84 posted on 02/14/2013 1:28:23 PM PST by a real Sheila (R.I.P AMERICA 1776 - 2012)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; jimbo123; blam; Marcella; JRandomFreeper

Shows just how quickly things can go to hell. Now imagine a major city after EMP attack and there has been not electricity for a month and no idea when it will be restored.


85 posted on 02/14/2013 9:53:48 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: jimbo123; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
BUt, ya must admit, it's so colourful and aromatic!


86 posted on 02/14/2013 9:56:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kartographer
She's coming in here to Mobile.
This will be the largest cruise ship to ever enter the Mobile ship channel. The ship is 115 feet wide and the narrow part of the ship channel is 400 feet.

The shipyards here are looking forward to the work.

87 posted on 02/14/2013 10:22:04 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

88 posted on 02/14/2013 10:35:28 PM PST by blam
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To: Kartographer

“Shows just how quickly things can go to hell.”

My husband’s company would send a bunch of us to a foreign country every year for two weeks. On the first trip, on the plane, I noticed a husband and wife couple that were friends of ours, did not eat the food offered by the airline. They brought bottles of water and peanut butter and crackers. I asked them why they were doing this and they said food on a plane can be tainted plus things happen to planes like being on the runway for hours, so they always had their own food and water. This made total sense to me and from then on I took water and peanut butter/cracks in a carry on bag. We did eat the food offered by the airline but we had that extra in case there was a problem with water or food before we got off that plane.

I would have done the same thing getting on a ship - take water and peanut butter/crackers. Once you turn your body over to an airline or ship, you are theirs. If the plane or ship screws up, there you are.

I will never get on another ship.


89 posted on 02/14/2013 11:19:52 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I went on a carnival cruise and it was great. No problems at all.


90 posted on 02/15/2013 12:58:33 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Marcella

I would spazz if I saw someone vomiting,much like an arachnophobe would spazz at the sight of a spider.

I’ve been on two cruises and everything went well.


91 posted on 02/15/2013 1:05:46 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: ChocChipCookie

My mother and I went on a Royal Caribbean cruise back in 2004 and it was great. It was only 3 days but we had a lot of fun.

I got FRIED though. I was in a lot of pain and went into a slight shock. I was freezing when everyone else was comfortable.

I still enjoyed the trip though,LOL.


92 posted on 02/15/2013 1:12:09 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: rusty millet

Wow. I guess my sister and our mother got lucky. The three of us had a great time.


93 posted on 02/15/2013 1:13:46 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

LOL. You forgot Botulism and Ptomaine poisoning!


94 posted on 02/15/2013 1:15:17 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: illiac

You poor thing. It’s bad enough when you’re at home,much less on a ship.


95 posted on 02/15/2013 1:17:32 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I am sure many people who have stayed at a motel 6 can say the same thing... but some of us have higher standards :)

For a true luxury experience try Royal Caribbean


96 posted on 02/15/2013 2:29:30 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Marcella

In Jan 1969, wife, two babies and I scored a PCS cruise from Yokohama to SFO on the SS President Wilson. Wife and I got nauseous the first night, but after that, it was “smooth sailin’.” A USN Commander was aboard with his pregnant wife. That lady was a very miserable person, even though the seas were calm. The shipboard doctor kept her sedated and they took her off at Honolulu and hospitalized her. After we got back to HQS, they asked if we’d like to ride the SS United States from NYC TO Southampton. Back in the day, the government heavily subsidized those liners and civil service and military personnel could apply for passage. Yes, we did take the SS United States to Europe. New bride and I have taken two Carnival cruises and one Princess. We loved the Carnival cruises to the eastern and western Caribbean.


97 posted on 02/15/2013 3:02:35 PM PST by Ax
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To: TexasFreeper2009

My mother and I went on a Royal Caribbean cruise back in ‘04. It was after Hurricane Ivan hit so our ship was re-routed from Fort Lauderdale to Haiti.

Haiti was beautiful but I have never seen such poverty.


98 posted on 02/15/2013 4:46:27 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Taking a shower was interesting. The ship must’ve hit one hell of a wave because I bumped into the wall of the shower. I almost lost my footing.

I could not eat dinner the first night because I was so nauseous. Everyone else was eating as if they were at their dining room table.

I still felt like I was swaying when I got home.


99 posted on 02/15/2013 5:45:12 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I live on a sailboat and I have a hard time sleeping when I spend a night ashore anymore.


100 posted on 02/15/2013 5:59:21 PM PST by fattigermaster (When tigers hunt, the jackals profit...when tigers sleep, the jackals rule.)
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