Skip to comments.Support for Dorner is Troubling
Posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:32 AM PST by Kaslin
Just when you thought you've seen it all with the Sandy Hook murders of a classroom full of children, America experiences another new low: A man named Christopher Dorner murders (as of this writing) three innocent people in order to air personal grievances. And his grievances are given serious attention by the national media, not to mention left-wing websites.
To better understand this, imagine the outcry if, let us say, a white student who was certain that he was denied admission to a prestigious university because of affirmative action, murdered a university official and the daughter of the dean of admissions and her fiance.
Imagine further that this man had posted a lengthy manifesto delineating how unfairly he had been treated by that university, and that he would continue to murder admissions department officials until the university admitted he was wrongfully rejected.
And imagine if the murderer had listed Fox News and conservative talk show hosts as media personalities he admired, as Dorner listed Chris Matthews, Tavis Smiley and Soledad O'Brien, among others, nearly all on the left.
Finally, imagine how the media, and perhaps the president himself, would have reacted.
A tsunami of vilification of conservatives and of conservative media would have ensued. We would be told 24/7 that talk radio is hate radio and that Fox News should be ostracized from civilized company. We would be told how right-wing hate had produced such a murderous man.
Moreover the murderer would be labeled exactly what he was, a murderer, and would not be regarded by any conservatives as in any way heroic. Conservative commentators would, rightly, outdo one another in condemnation of the murderer.
This has not been the case with Christopher Dorner. He is widely depicted as a man with legitimate grievances that caused him to "snap." His "manifesto" is widely read and often praised, a Facebook page has been set up to defend him, and thousands of commentators on left-wing sites concentrate their fury on the Los Angeles Police Department, while portraying Dorner sympathetically.
It is important to remember that Dorner murdered a young woman and her fiance simply because she was the daughter of a cop -- the man who acted as Dorner's defense advocate in the LAPD proceedings against him. But as one comment on a left-wing site noted, that was a good idea because if the cop had been murdered, he wouldn't have suffered, but if his daughter and her fianc? are murdered, then the cop would experience real pain until he died.
Any public figure, especially any member of the clergy, who does not unambiguously condemn Dorner as a psychopathic murderer, is failing in his or her duty. This is not the time to discuss allegations of racism in the Los Angeles Police Department. For one thing, being wrongfully dismissed from a job -- if, indeed, that is what happened to Dorner -- inhabits a different moral universe than murder. For another, the more the public pays attention to this murderer's "manifesto," the more murders-for-attention will take place.
How could any number of self-pitying angry individuals who see themselves as victims not get the idea that murdering people is a great way to get people to take you and your grievances seriously?
Constance Rice, a prominent Los Angeles civil rights attorney, a black woman called by NPR last year the "Conscience Of The City [Los Angeles]," wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed column about "the disturbing support for Dorner's manifesto from the black community on the Internet and on black radio."
And Rice, who has said that she woke up every day for years wondering how she could sue the Los Angeles Police Department for alleged abuses, went on to write, "Dorner is absolutely wrong when he states in the manifesto that 'the department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days'. ... The good guys are now in charge of LAPD culture."
But that apparently does not matter to the many black Americans who have so much anger and so clearly define themselves as victims that they will, in too many cases, support black murderers -- from OJ Simpson to Christopher Dorner.
What we have here is another proof that nothing leads to murder and other evils more than a sense of victimization. This is true for nations, just as it is for individuals. The German sense of victimization led to World War II. Dorner believes himself to be a victim and consequently feels entitled to murder.
But the real victims are decomposing in their graves.
Kinda reminds me of Natural Born Killers. Still, I think the cops shooting up the two other pickup trucks has something to do with it. Thing is, though, it doesn’t make him any better. It just makes them worse.
When the Gov’t stops respecting the law and starts enforcing only the laws it likes; and when it enforces the law it does so unevenly among the citizenry; then people naturally stop obeying the law, universally.
The law is the only thing that prevents us from being a 3rd world nation and Obama/Democrats are singularly responsible for creating this atmosphere of lawlessness and the reactionary support for that lawlessness.
This Truth is as old as man.
This is one of the scariest things that is happening in our society and no one - no one - is talking about it.
Like Rush says, the safest thing that the citizens of L.A. can do now is to surrender all of their guns to the government and create a really big “gun-free zone.” His sarcasm always gives me chuckles.
It’s another set up by Obama.
It’s hard for me to dispute Dorner. I can’t support him, but I also can’t dispute him.
His core complaint is that his career was destroyed in order to protect the LAPD from a complaint of excessive force.
Seems to me in the course of the manhunt for Dorner the LAPD has gone above and beyond in VALIDATING Dorner’s assertions that the LAPD tacitly endorses the use of excessive force. After all, we’ve seen two situations where the police attempted to MURDER innocent people only to have the LAPD say that their officers ‘acted appropriately’.
IMHO the way the LAPD has responded to Dorner’s actions by going on the warpath against anyone they want speaks to why people need firearms like the AR-15 with a 30-round magazine.
That’s because it isn’t paranoid to think that the government might really try to murder you with no good reason at all.
You are exactly right. This whole thing is a symptom of cultural collapse, but nobody seems to be able to see it.
The rule of law is grievously wounded, sepsis has set into the body politic and its institutions are failing.
It seems the truck shootings show the police intend to have no living Dorner to testify about anything wrong with the cops.
I know of 2 police forces I absolutely distrust, 1 that I absolutely trust, and 1 whose officers I trust and whose leadership I distrust.
That’s a whale of a lot of distrust coming from a rightwing law and order guy.
Yeah, like an ex-employee is a reliable source for anything...
The left likes him because he appears to be a black leftist loony who has spent his entire life interpreting everything in terms of “The Man” coming to get him.
He shouldn’t even have been allowed on the force.
My feeling about LAPD is that they are overwhelmed, because they really can’t go after the gang-bangers because most of them belong to a protected class, but most of them want to do something about crime there. However, I honestly don’t think most of them have the training to do their jobs, and this is something that the chief should look at. That said, it’s so politicized in LA that he probably can’t even go there...
I have a family member who worked for a leftist oriented police department and life was very difficult for the cops. This resulted in bad decisions...because it is literally a split-second decision when you think somebody is going to fire on you. Only one person is going to go home, and you want it to be you.
The curious thing, in my opinion, is that LAPD appears to be very behind the times in terms of its technology. Why didn’t these cops know (from a screen in their car) what the vehicle they were seeking looked like?
Support for this fascist State and any of its police forces is troubling.
Support for Obama troubles me more than support for Dorner.
“Yeah, like an ex-employee is a reliable source for anything...”
Normally I’d agree with you. But as I said, in this case the LAPD is validating Dorner’s assertions with their actions.
I also don’t think the left is fawning all over him. Initially they reported on him as being a crazed killer and they’ve only changed their tone on the story because of the comments on their own web forums that see Dorner as standing up to official abuse.
Again, I won’t say that I support him, but I also am finding less reason to dispute his assertions as we learn more about the case and as we see the LAPD in action.
i am surprised at how surprised people are over this... and i'm surprised this has not happened sooner... i am not at all surprised he has supporters... i have a hard time believing his supporters are mainly libs...
The way you “stand up to official abuse” is by filing a lawsuit, not by killing your attorney’s daughter and her husband.
The guy is a nutbag who has proclaimed a cause (mistreated black man) that is seducing every liberal in the US.
BTW, the daughter appears to have been Filipina and her husband was black, so I don’t even know why blacks are out there rooting for this guy.
He’s a nutcase.
Dorners support is troubling, but is it really surprising?
How many still support cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.
Many are movie stars supporting this murderer, why wouldn’t they support Dorner? Why are they supporting Trayvon Martin?
P.S. They also support Obama.
Troubling ? Yes. Surprising?? Hell no
Before its over we may start getting copycats or others joining Dorner.
On the hypotheticals they listed. That is not really an apples to apples comparison. Those other peoples actions have not resulted in the deaths of many innocent people on a daily basis, such as cop malfeasance has done.
The deaths of innocent people that the LAPD has caused over the years is what takes the bite off his killing of the daughter. In that situation, its more of an equal retaliation for the pain that many LA citizens have felt.
I am not condoning it, just pointing out the obvious mental perspective.
“Still, I think the cops shooting up the two other pickup trucks has something to do with it.”
Yes, but more than that, it is the powerless cheering for a champion taking on the powerful. Ordinary citizens have been pushed around, bullied, extorted, abused, and sometimes outright murdered by police for years, with little to no recourse. So, even though most people don’t support Dorner killing innocent people (I hope), there is still going to be elation that somebody, anybody, is striking fear into those who have held themselves to be unaccountable.