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Support for Dorner is Troubling ^ | February 12, 2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:32 AM PST by Kaslin

Just when you thought you've seen it all with the Sandy Hook murders of a classroom full of children, America experiences another new low: A man named Christopher Dorner murders (as of this writing) three innocent people in order to air personal grievances. And his grievances are given serious attention by the national media, not to mention left-wing websites.

To better understand this, imagine the outcry if, let us say, a white student who was certain that he was denied admission to a prestigious university because of affirmative action, murdered a university official and the daughter of the dean of admissions and her fiance.

Imagine further that this man had posted a lengthy manifesto delineating how unfairly he had been treated by that university, and that he would continue to murder admissions department officials until the university admitted he was wrongfully rejected.

And imagine if the murderer had listed Fox News and conservative talk show hosts as media personalities he admired, as Dorner listed Chris Matthews, Tavis Smiley and Soledad O'Brien, among others, nearly all on the left.

Finally, imagine how the media, and perhaps the president himself, would have reacted.

A tsunami of vilification of conservatives and of conservative media would have ensued. We would be told 24/7 that talk radio is hate radio and that Fox News should be ostracized from civilized company. We would be told how right-wing hate had produced such a murderous man.

Moreover the murderer would be labeled exactly what he was, a murderer, and would not be regarded by any conservatives as in any way heroic. Conservative commentators would, rightly, outdo one another in condemnation of the murderer.

This has not been the case with Christopher Dorner. He is widely depicted as a man with legitimate grievances that caused him to "snap." His "manifesto" is widely read and often praised, a Facebook page has been set up to defend him, and thousands of commentators on left-wing sites concentrate their fury on the Los Angeles Police Department, while portraying Dorner sympathetically.

It is important to remember that Dorner murdered a young woman and her fiance simply because she was the daughter of a cop -- the man who acted as Dorner's defense advocate in the LAPD proceedings against him. But as one comment on a left-wing site noted, that was a good idea because if the cop had been murdered, he wouldn't have suffered, but if his daughter and her fianc? are murdered, then the cop would experience real pain until he died.

Any public figure, especially any member of the clergy, who does not unambiguously condemn Dorner as a psychopathic murderer, is failing in his or her duty. This is not the time to discuss allegations of racism in the Los Angeles Police Department. For one thing, being wrongfully dismissed from a job -- if, indeed, that is what happened to Dorner -- inhabits a different moral universe than murder. For another, the more the public pays attention to this murderer's "manifesto," the more murders-for-attention will take place.

How could any number of self-pitying angry individuals who see themselves as victims not get the idea that murdering people is a great way to get people to take you and your grievances seriously?

Constance Rice, a prominent Los Angeles civil rights attorney, a black woman called by NPR last year the "Conscience Of The City [Los Angeles]," wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed column about "the disturbing support for Dorner's manifesto from the black community on the Internet and on black radio."

And Rice, who has said that she woke up every day for years wondering how she could sue the Los Angeles Police Department for alleged abuses, went on to write, "Dorner is absolutely wrong when he states in the manifesto that 'the department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days'. ... The good guys are now in charge of LAPD culture."

But that apparently does not matter to the many black Americans who have so much anger and so clearly define themselves as victims that they will, in too many cases, support black murderers -- from OJ Simpson to Christopher Dorner.

What we have here is another proof that nothing leads to murder and other evils more than a sense of victimization. This is true for nations, just as it is for individuals. The German sense of victimization led to World War II. Dorner believes himself to be a victim and consequently feels entitled to murder.

But the real victims are decomposing in their graves.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arguingwithlibs; christopherdorner; dorner; liberals
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To: Kaslin

If people couldn’t see this coming, then they have no sense of history.

The rule of law requires a respect for the people who have to live by those laws.

Today, we pick and choose the laws we want to enforce, and we’ve criminalized nearly everyone in the USA.

It’s pretty clear by the actions of the LAPD that they definitely see it that way, or how else do you explain the ‘shoot first’ mode they’ve been in since this has all happened.

The Law has become a nightclub, and either your name is on the list and you’re exempt from the following it (your in), or the law is what the state uses to keep you out of the disco.

Dorner did the due process bit with the LAPD, and thought it was one big corrupt enterprise, and the irony is that he still thinks civilians ought to go around weaponless, so that the cops have all the power. He’s still a member of the gang, you see.

Dorner’s beef here is that within that sort of mindset, the LAPD forgot that every cop is part of the same criminal enterprise, and they know how things truly are. He figured out there is no due process among theives, and like any betrayed gang member he came after the people he thought had their back.

This is how you square his ‘liberalism’ with his actions here. He was part of the system, got screwed by it, knows the system is criminal, and took criminal reprisals against it.

I have no doubt what Dorner was saying was true about getting fired for his partner’s abuse of power. I’m just shocked this hasn’t happened sooner.

The LAPD is a gang, and they screwed the wrong gang member, and now he’s doing what any screwed killer is wont to do - kill members of his former gang, and their family members.

The LAPD are trying to figure out how to put the toothpaste back into the tube now. Dorner’s just reinforced the perceptions everyone’s had of the LAPD for a long time.

Dorner’s killing cops now because no matter what he’s never going to get a fair trial. The scary part for the LAPD is that we all may end up figuring that out, and since they are apparently helpless against one dude, they aren’t going to be any more effective against two or more.

21 posted on 02/12/2013 12:08:21 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MeganC
Dorner's correct route was through a lawsuit...not murder.

He's scum.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 12:08:39 PM PST by what's up
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To: Kaslin

“......but if his daughter and her fiance are murdered, then the cop would experience real pain until he died.”

I don’t know if the person who said this was praising Dorner’s actions or not. But the statement is true.

Jackbooted thugs who break into people’s houses and scare the hell out of everyone and cops who shoot people’s dogs and generally mistreat law abiding citizens are also reasons for this facination with Dorner. I’m not saying people are rooting FOR Dorner. I’m saying they’re rooting AGAINST the cops.

23 posted on 02/12/2013 12:09:39 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Kaslin

Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Mao....

24 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:07 PM PST by GeronL (
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To: Kaslin

The left and especially defense lawyers push this “snap” thing. There’s no such thing as “snap.”

“snap” is undefined in the law books. It has no meaning. Its purpose is to sway juries to give innocent verdicts.

The left doesn’t believe in free will or personal responsibility for actions. We are just material automatons, with no higher-order thought processes.

25 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:19 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism comes from an incurable mental illness.)
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To: Kaslin
Support for Dorner is Troubling

Troubling, but not surprising. The ignorsnt, raging, lawless minority, entitlement class often choose psychopaths as their "heros".

26 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:39 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Boogieman

I concur.

27 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:39 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Venturer
Before its over we may start getting copycats or others joining Dorner.

That is a very scary thought, that occurred to me yesterday.

I am being very honest when I say, that I believe Obama, his administration, and their agenda, is responsible for the environment of fear, racial tension, and stress that we now have, and may end up being infamous for starting a horrible historic period. I hope not.
28 posted on 02/12/2013 12:11:57 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Kaslin

Why does the left admire this POS so much? Because it is a perfect example of what they want all “poor” “downtrodden” “oppressed” “underclass” people to be. Angry. Violent. Uncontrollable. Rebelling against the established order.

29 posted on 02/12/2013 12:13:25 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism comes from an incurable mental illness.)
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To: ZX12R
I think there are some people that just like that he is giving it to the police and being successful.

From my experience I would wager that there are plenty of sick puppies on this very forum who feel that way.

30 posted on 02/12/2013 12:13:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: Alaska Wolf

No more troubling than the support for the Marxist-In-Chief.

31 posted on 02/12/2013 12:13:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kaslin

A couple of things...Those kops who shot up the truck in my eyes are just as much murderers as Dorner...Their intent was to murder, in the back...Kops will kill your pets for convenience and fun, and constantly get away with it...

They bust into wrong houses without warrants even and murder completely innocent victims...And get away with it...

Kops are making a pretty bad reputation for themselves country wide...

And the other things is, this guy Dorner’s future was destroyed...I don’t try to justify what he is charged with because that of course is unacceptable but it sickens me to watch some arrogant employers and bosses treat others with so little respect...

You unjustly take away a man’s livlihood, in some cases you are lighting a powder keg...More people ought to realize that...

And so far, we can’t be sure if Dorner is guilty of anything, can we???

One thing’s for certain...They plan to kill Dorner before he can get an audience to listen to his side...

Dorner is not my cult hero but I can see why he fulfills that role for some...

32 posted on 02/12/2013 12:14:41 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: Valpal1

As Gerald Celente said, “When people lose everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it.”

I think this really is an example of that and we can see this sort of thing only increase.

33 posted on 02/12/2013 12:17:11 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Agreed and it makes me sad to see it.

34 posted on 02/12/2013 12:20:55 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: Iscool

I think yours is a reasonable point of view.

35 posted on 02/12/2013 12:21:28 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Noamie

Yep, I think that, between the Django movie and Dorner’s actions,
there will be many more that are “inspired” to take action on what 0bama has been fomenting for his entire political career.

36 posted on 02/12/2013 12:24:57 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Revolting cat!
No more troubling than the support for the Marxist-In-Chief.

What more can one expect from liberals?

37 posted on 02/12/2013 12:27:43 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Iscool

Nothing you said gives Dorner the right to murder people. Nothing. You are sick for thinking otherwise. BTW, you spelled “cops” wrong.

38 posted on 02/12/2013 12:29:15 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: MrB

I had forgotten that Dorner said he saw the movie “Django”. I can’t help but wonder if seeing that movie was the direct event responsible for setting him off. About the same timeframe, right? Sounds like a case against violent movies. Well, at least ones where blacks take it to THE MAN.

39 posted on 02/12/2013 12:33:08 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: ZX12R

Most people who get fired from a job just go out and find another one.

If they don’t they probably needed firing.

40 posted on 02/12/2013 12:35:53 PM PST by Venturer
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