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Is DHS Ammo For Obama's "National Security Force"?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | February 12, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 02/12/2013 5:18:39 PM PST by raptor22

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To: Ramius
If you do the math it works out to be about two boxes of shells a month for everybody in the DHS who is issued a gun.

One point six billion cartridges? What calculations bring you to a couple boxes each?

41 posted on 02/12/2013 6:23:44 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Jonty30

Homeland Security’s not reselling ammo to anyone. Who would they ‘resell’ to anyhow? A foreign country? The Sauds? Social Security’s also making large buys.

Too bad we don’t have a free press or they could ask and investigate and find out. If a Republican President5 was setting up a personal army the press would care... Hey New York Times, I’m talkin’ about you.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 6:25:21 PM PST by GOPJ ( Illegal immigrants: violent boorish party crashers. Send them home, call police - make them leave.)
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To: GOPJ

I didn’t say the DHS was buying it at a discount, to resell it. I said somebody was buying it at a discount and selling it at a generous markup.

Who is the DHS buying these bullets from?


43 posted on 02/12/2013 6:27:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 556x45

Zactly....and it would be an immense pleasure to do exactly that.....


44 posted on 02/12/2013 6:29:53 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: ConservativeInPA
Excuse me. I’ve been eating too much sausage with mustard. The correct spelling is muster.

"Seasoned troops" are those who have been mustered by their officers and assaulted and peppered by the enemy.

Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

45 posted on 02/12/2013 6:36:26 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Jonty30; Principled
Just somebody is buying that ammo, and then reselling it.

These orders started as Government Purchasing RFQ's that were negotiated finally becoming long range PO's.

This ammo is being sold to the government not just some guy. The RFQ's were specific by agency and then broken down into the various rounds required. Also noted that very little of it was target ammo.

Here is an example from the Social Security Administration:

SSA RFQ

46 posted on 02/12/2013 6:41:26 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: raptor22

to shoot to kill any and all Americans


47 posted on 02/12/2013 6:53:26 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: raptor22

Would you like brown shirts of black shirts with those bullets?

/S/


48 posted on 02/12/2013 7:01:10 PM PST by ripley
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To: Jonty30
Who is the DHS buying these bullets from?

DHS Purchase of 450 Million Rounds

In March of 2012 the Department of Homeland Security had an order filled by ATK of Minnesota to provide 450 million rounds of .40 caliber bullets.

Purchased from ATK

If one was really interested the information is all over the Internet.

49 posted on 02/12/2013 7:03:19 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: raptor22

The Border Patrol is just one agency among many in DHS and it uses nearly 20 million rounds a year just on basic qualifications.

Over a ten year period that would be almost have of the 450 million DHS order.

To me this is somewhat of a non issue. The more important development is the creation of the Office Diversity and Civil Rights under CBP.


50 posted on 02/12/2013 7:35:21 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin

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51 posted on 02/12/2013 7:36:39 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin
To me this is somewhat of a non issue.

Then why is this the first time ever that this much ammo was ordered?

This is a little bit more important than some stupid Office of Diversity created by a hate whitey homo muslim.

52 posted on 02/12/2013 7:45:28 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
It is time to mustard muster in a legitimate militia.

What is a legitimate militia, how does it form. and to whom does it report.

53 posted on 02/12/2013 8:50:40 PM PST by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: Secret Agent Man

If ammo makers don’t get into the fight they will be out of business when all the guns are taken.


54 posted on 02/12/2013 8:58:26 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I think they are taking the existing ammo off the shelves ahead of an order for microstamped / registered ammo sales.


55 posted on 02/12/2013 9:13:25 PM PST by willyd
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To: Eaker; raptor22; Stormdog; ConservativeInPA
Then why is this the first time ever that this much ammo was ordered?

Because Lake City does not make hollow-point, non-Geneva-Convention ammo; just copper-jacketed steel rifle ball ammo and copper-clad round-nose pistol ammo? Only civilian ammo mfrs make hollow-point fragmenting ammo to kill civilians with? Hmmmm?

56 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:28 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: Eaker

Do you have a source for any previous ammo orders?


57 posted on 02/12/2013 10:43:50 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: raptor22

We gave our country to these people.

But at least got to act like the smartest people in the room. :)


58 posted on 02/12/2013 10:44:18 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: BBell

Anyone know what a DHS basic load is? How much does each person carry on them?


59 posted on 02/12/2013 10:50:31 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: ConservativeInPA

There may have been a pun intended.


60 posted on 02/13/2013 2:38:13 AM PST by MountainYankee
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