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Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down Before Fire Engulfed Rogue Ex-Cop's Cabin
Business Insider Military & Defense ^ | 13 Feb 13 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 02/13/2013 3:00:36 PM PST by Repeat Offender

A six-day California manhunt ended Tuesday with rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner apparently dying in a cabin fire on Bear Mountain.

One of many big questions to be answered is how the deadly fire was started.

Multiple unconfirmed audio clips appear to show police officers talking about burning down the cabin in which the alleged cop-killer was hiding.

Deliberately starting a fire, rather than waiting out the suspect, could be seen as an extreme measure.

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In an unconfirmed video showing live footage from KCAL9 Los Angeles, officers are apparently caught in the background around the 20 second mark saying, "burn that f------ house down." It continues:

[Inaudible]

"Burn him out!"

"Get to him right now, f------ burn this motherf-----!"

Another unconfirmed video posted to YouTube of television coverage from CBS 2 captures officers apparently saying, "burn it down, burn it down ... get the gas." Another officer says, "yeah, burn it down." The exchange happens around the 1:24 mark:

The Guardian reports that journalist Max Blumenthal was listening to the police scanners, and live-tweeting the event.

On the scanners, Blumenthal reports hearing an exchange where the police talk about using "burners." The Daily Caller is reporting that is police slang for tear gas.

"All right, Steve, we're gonna go, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burner."

"Copy," is the response.

"We want it, like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," says the first voice.

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," responds a female voice.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: dorner; lapd
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Video at link. Emphasis mine

At this rate, homeowners and vehicle owners will soon be government mandated to purchase LAPD insurance.

1 posted on 02/13/2013 3:00:39 PM PST by Repeat Offender
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To: Repeat Offender

Maybe Rodney King was right, looks like the LAPD is turning into the Kripo (Nazi era “criminal police”). A side note, that still is no excuse for the LA riots of 1992 though.


2 posted on 02/13/2013 3:04:02 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Repeat Offender

It was not the LAPD.

It was the San Bernadino Sheriff’s Department.


3 posted on 02/13/2013 3:05:44 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Nice home/vehicle you have here... it’d be a shame if something happened to it.


4 posted on 02/13/2013 3:06:15 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Fire has been used in battle since the dawn of time.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 3:06:23 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Repeat Offender

They also told news choppers to turn off their live cameras, then told them to leave.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 3:06:47 PM PST by umgud
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To: All

Awesome. They saved California tax-payers Millions of dollars and a media circus trial where this cop-killer would no doubt be glorified by the media and end up with thousands of sympathizers, mostly black, who would then riot upon his conviction.

He would then die of old age on Death Row.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 3:07:38 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Lean Forward" = "Bend Over")
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To: Repeat Offender

I am sometimes critical of the cops but this time I can’t blame them a bit.


8 posted on 02/13/2013 3:07:54 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Just another WACO...They had absolutely no intention of taking him alive. The LAPD is now free of another witness.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 3:08:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Repeat Offender
Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down

A little like shouting "Allah Ahkbar" before firing into the crowd.

10 posted on 02/13/2013 3:08:37 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Repeat Offender

So, if he died from the fire, was shot by the police, or took his own life......in the words of Hillary Clinton: “What difference does it make?”


11 posted on 02/13/2013 3:09:43 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Sacajaweau

One big difference, the people at waco hadnt commited any crimes let alone multie murders.

Still this was an execution by the police.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 3:15:28 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
It was the San Bernadino Sheriff’s Department.

And a deputy was killed. I would have brought the gasoline.

13 posted on 02/13/2013 3:16:38 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Repeat Offender

This guy got exactly what he wanted - suicide by cop.


14 posted on 02/13/2013 3:17:42 PM PST by llevrok (The only thing Obama has achieved are rapid executive orders.)
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To: driftdiver

It could just as likely have been suicide by cop. My attitude about Dorner is “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 3:18:06 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: umgud

Now we know how they plan to hide gun confiscation


16 posted on 02/13/2013 3:18:14 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: umgud
They also told news choppers to turn off their live cameras, then told them to leave.

The thought crossed my mind that the reason for this was because they planned to send in a drone or two -- there's a drone base in San Bernardino.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 3:21:07 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Repeat Offender

It wouldn’t have happened then if there wasn’t a media scheduling conflict with Hussein’s speech.


18 posted on 02/13/2013 3:21:52 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: cbvanb

Shooting him maybe, they burned the house intentionally. Which is murder.


19 posted on 02/13/2013 3:22:01 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mike Darancette
It was the San Bernadino Sheriff’s Department.

And a deputy was killed.


I didn't read his manifesto, but from the various news and commentary, I thought his beef was with the LAPD.

By holding up in San Bernadino, he involved their leo's. He killed one of their leo's and wounded another. He brought the 'battle' to them -- and they finished it.


20 posted on 02/13/2013 3:24:41 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Awesome. They saved California tax-payers Millions of dollars and a media circus trial where this cop-killer would no doubt be glorified by the media and end up with thousands of sympathizers, mostly black, who would then riot upon his conviction.

Amazing, but yet illustrative.

I no longer wonder how the inhumane tragedies of history happened.

Media puts out info, enemy on the loose, execute said individual and the crowds cheer.

Whip up a frenzy, and gain support of the masses, celebrate the end of the Constitution and the rule of law.

Right on FR, sad.

21 posted on 02/13/2013 3:30:08 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

They had him contained and they had cover. As much as I’m glad he’s dead, the cops executed him. We can’t pick and choose which times this is appropriate.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 3:41:11 PM PST by umgud
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To: Repeat Offender; All

Problem with this LEO attitude is that the next nutjob will make sure they take out more people before they get offed

They took stupid fire risk in an area notorious for dry spells and forest fires. Would it have been OK if they burned innocent folks houses and property at the same time ?


23 posted on 02/13/2013 3:45:16 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: driftdiver

I understand your revulsion, but in point of fact the law does not make a distinction between types of deadly force. If it is legally acceptable to kill, the means by which it is accomplished are not an issue. Citizens have been killed by police cars, police flashlights, and for all I know police dogs. How the killing was carried out didn’t matter if the facts established that the officer was legally justified.


24 posted on 02/13/2013 3:47:14 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: SeminoleCounty

On one of the tapes it is stated that there is a fire outside the cabin...And someone told another to get the fire truck in there that sittin’ down the road...


25 posted on 02/13/2013 3:50:14 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: Sacajaweau

Witness to what? The guy was a mass murderer engaged in a battle against the cops. The cops won.


26 posted on 02/13/2013 3:50:18 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wonder how many folks cheering the burning of Dorner also have a “They’ll take my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands!” bumper sticker.

Perhaps I can start selling a “.... pry it from by charred dead hands!” version on Ebay, now.

And we are still debating if Major Nadal Hassan can be forced to shave his beard before trial?

Quite a contrast in versions of “Rule of Law” and “innocent until proven guilty”.

No, I am NOT a fan of Dorner. I just don’t like the propensity of the police to drop everything else and every cop on the force converge when one of their own is in danger, yet take their own sweet time when an ordinary citizen asks for help. They they start blazing away at women delivering papers, the family dog, etc.

Anyone ever hear of discipline? Patience?


27 posted on 02/13/2013 3:51:47 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: umgud
We can’t pick and choose which times this is appropriate.

I agree, this is a dangerous precedent in my view.

What's next, drone strikes on media/government created enemies?

Will that be cheered here as well?

I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised.

On a serious note, do our men in Afghanistan have the same leeway when fighting the tallywackers?

I suspect if they did what our police force just did they would be brought back and tried for murder.

28 posted on 02/13/2013 3:52:54 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Cementjungle
Like you, I'm getting damned tired of the anti-police faction on FR.

I'd burn down the cabin, pay the owner for her loss of property, then sleep like a baby.

29 posted on 02/13/2013 3:54:24 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: yarddog
I am sometimes critical of the cops but this time I can’t blame them a bit.

A nation of laws does not permit the police to be also the judges and the executioners. It is one short step to death squads.

Besides, they had no idea who [else] was in the cabin.

Killing Dorner this way is guaranteed to make him a martyr among those who approved his methods. A trial would have exposed his crimes and showed him for what he was (an angry egotist who was only concerned about what OTHERS do to HIM.) Hardly a word in his manifesto is dedicated to what he did to others. The manifesto, actually, opens with declaration that his actions, however evil, are necessary and should be properly understood by the unwashed masses. You can't get more narcissist than that.

A dead idol is very convenient. He holds no surprises - he already has done all his activities. He already said all that he is ever going to say; but new words can be easily attributed to him, and who is going to challenge that? This is why martyrs are idolized. It's much easier to wear a T-shirt with Che Guevara's photo than to deal with the live Che who would shoot you on sight if he wants to.

30 posted on 02/13/2013 3:55:34 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Repeat Offender
CS Gas was deployed. We know what can happen when the government uses CS Gas.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 3:55:51 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: cbvanb

” How the killing was carried out didn’t matter if the facts established that the officer was legally justified.”

An officer is never legally justified in executing a suspect. In our system of government that would be left for the courts and the state. Indeed, they have an obligation to protect the life of the suspect.


32 posted on 02/13/2013 3:55:50 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Idiocracy is here now.


33 posted on 02/13/2013 3:57:16 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: cbvanb

Im sure that was part of tue discussion at briefngs. I hate living in a police state.


34 posted on 02/13/2013 3:58:27 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cbvanb

Im sure that was part of tue discussion at briefngs. I hate living in a police state.


35 posted on 02/13/2013 3:58:27 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cementjungle
The guy was a mass murderer engaged in a battle against the cops.

I haven't seen the murder charges proved but no doubt he fired on the cops.

Let me ask you a question, what if those Asian lady paper deliverers returned fire?

What say you?

36 posted on 02/13/2013 4:00:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: eddie willers

Would you also hand out judge dredd uniforms?


37 posted on 02/13/2013 4:01:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

They DID burn innocent folks’ property. That wasn’t the perp’s cabin.

The cops willfully destroyed the property of some law-abiding citizen.


38 posted on 02/13/2013 4:03:22 PM PST by Argus
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To: eddie willers
Like you, I'm getting damned tired of the anti-police faction on FR.

Anti police?

They're not police anymore they're union goons.

I'd burn down the cabin, pay the owner for her loss of property, then sleep like a baby.

Good, then YOU pay for it....oh, and if it was your home is suspect you'd be singing a different tune.

Amazing how willing some are here to negate the rights of others when they are not affected and they've been convinced it was "right"

39 posted on 02/13/2013 4:05:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: eddie willers

“Like you, I’m getting damned tired of the anti-police faction on FR.
I’d burn down the cabin, pay the owner for her loss of property, then sleep like a baby.”

Ding, Ding!! We have a winner! For the most ironic post ever on Free Republic.

See, some folks believe that the cops many times overstep their bounds. And, are not held responsible. Indeed, trample on the rights of suspects and non-suspects alike. A recent example would be....Oh, I don’t know.....burning an alleged murderer alive? Some would say that the cops administered their own “justice”. But then, they would be the Cop Haters.

But maybe he shot himself first. That would be a whole lot better than being burned alive. At any rate, I just hope it’s not you or I that “they” decide needs to be taken care of, next.


40 posted on 02/13/2013 4:08:49 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: driftdiver; All
"One big difference, the people at waco hadnt commited any crimes let alone multie murders. Still this was an execution by the police. "

What executions have those being executed armed and shooting at the executioner?

Looks like some anti-cop "libertarians" on FR are revealing themselves to be comrades of the leftwing want-to-be revolutionaries that are targets rather than posters on FR.

Don't even met their ilk halfway! After killing and bragging to kill more, when surrounded and shooting, exactly, why shouldn't Dorner have been roasted?

41 posted on 02/13/2013 4:09:36 PM PST by drpix
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To: BwanaNdege
I wonder how many folks cheering the burning of Dorner also have a “They’ll take my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands!” bumper sticker.

It only matters when it is THEIR RIGHTS donchaknow!

42 posted on 02/13/2013 4:09:52 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
if it was your home is suspect you'd be singing a different tune.

If a madman was holed up there, you bet I would. I'd throw the torch in there myself.

I'm for liberty...not mindless anarchy.

43 posted on 02/13/2013 4:11:15 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: TigersEye

I guess, it sure ain’t the 5th Amendment.


44 posted on 02/13/2013 4:12:33 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: eddie willers

Ditto....


45 posted on 02/13/2013 4:12:33 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: Greysard
A nation of laws does not permit the police to be also the judges and the executioners. It is one short step to death squads.

I like threads like this. It clearly highlights that a number of supposed conservatives, who purportedly support the Free American Republic, as laid out by the Founding Fathers and codified in all their voluminous writings, actually support a Standing Police Army that snuffs out its enemies with incendiary devices and overwhelming brute force.

The point they neglect is that this Standing Police Army is in the control of tyrants like Dianne Feinstein and Barack Obama, who WILL use the SPA against them when the time comes.

46 posted on 02/13/2013 4:14:18 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: saleman
I just hope it’s not you or I that “they” decide needs to be taken care of,

Some of us are sane and don't walk around with paranoid delusions about the elusive "THEM".

47 posted on 02/13/2013 4:14:30 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Repeat Offender

The only thing I find regretful is that the cabin was burned.

As for the scumbag murderer being rendered extra-crispy... fine by me. Hope he was alive and alert when the flames started caressing his worthless carcas. Thank goodness it’s prevented another insane California circus trial, where one of their patently idiot juries would both free him and make him a rich celebrity.


48 posted on 02/13/2013 4:14:59 PM PST by greene66
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To: Erik Latranyi

Good for the cops. I’m glad they killed the ahole.


49 posted on 02/13/2013 4:15:02 PM PST by bfree (Biden '13)
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To: eddie willers

May I see your papers, please?


50 posted on 02/13/2013 4:15:53 PM PST by abb
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