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Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down Before Fire Engulfed Rogue Ex-Cop's Cabin
Business Insider Military & Defense ^ | 13 Feb 13 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 02/13/2013 3:00:36 PM PST by Repeat Offender

A six-day California manhunt ended Tuesday with rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner apparently dying in a cabin fire on Bear Mountain.

One of many big questions to be answered is how the deadly fire was started.

Multiple unconfirmed audio clips appear to show police officers talking about burning down the cabin in which the alleged cop-killer was hiding.

Deliberately starting a fire, rather than waiting out the suspect, could be seen as an extreme measure.

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In an unconfirmed video showing live footage from KCAL9 Los Angeles, officers are apparently caught in the background around the 20 second mark saying, "burn that f------ house down." It continues:

[Inaudible]

"Burn him out!"

"Get to him right now, f------ burn this motherf-----!"

Another unconfirmed video posted to YouTube of television coverage from CBS 2 captures officers apparently saying, "burn it down, burn it down ... get the gas." Another officer says, "yeah, burn it down." The exchange happens around the 1:24 mark:

The Guardian reports that journalist Max Blumenthal was listening to the police scanners, and live-tweeting the event.

On the scanners, Blumenthal reports hearing an exchange where the police talk about using "burners." The Daily Caller is reporting that is police slang for tear gas.

"All right, Steve, we're gonna go, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with the burner."

"Copy," is the response.

"We want it, like we talked about."

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," says the first voice.

"Copy. Seven burners deployed and we have a fire," responds a female voice.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: dorner; lapd
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To: familyop

I can’t argue with that, either. And I don’t argue that the authorities had only one choice in the situation with Dorner, merely that it was certainly a deadly force situation, and given the previous actions of the suspect, any manner of deadly force would be considered legal. But as a public relations issue, they certainly didn’t take the high road, and are going to spend considerable time defending their actions. I think there were other ways the barricaded suspect could have been handled, and in the end a civil court may agree with that assessment.


161 posted on 02/13/2013 5:58:38 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: eddie willers

Who said anything about being anti-police? I’m glad the guy was offed, but he was murdered.

Would you expect the cops to do the same if some people you worked with were the victims? Nope. that would not happen. I get really ticked that cops act like they are more special than civilians. That doesn’t mean I’m “anti-police” either.


162 posted on 02/13/2013 6:01:51 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yes I do. As a former firearms instructor I am well aware of the training police officers receive, and I am offended by the actions of some officers today.


163 posted on 02/13/2013 6:01:51 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: papertyger
I hear tin foil is effective for blocking our brain rays.

So, apparently, does sticking their...

164 posted on 02/13/2013 6:07:09 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: cbvanb

I’m not a lawyer, either, but agreed on statutory law. The neglects of public affairs considerations are mounting up, though—not only in police agencies but also in other government offices, branches, business, etc. Each of us should try to be impeccable. Leaders and public servants, more so.

Oh, well. It’s a young man’s game—a game that I was involved in for a very short time, long ago, and left behind. I’ll read about the excitement and adventure from my little peaceful place.


165 posted on 02/13/2013 6:07:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: drpix
Let what I've already posted serve to expose all to FReepers that may read this thread No arguments here, you've done a great job.

Make sure you wipe the boot polish off your chin before you hit the sheets, your wife might get mad.

166 posted on 02/13/2013 6:14:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Repeat Offender
Burner is cop speak for M-651 CS Gas grenade. They call them burners because they burn white hot for about 30 seconds and will light anything flammable on fire. Sounds like they put 7 of these through the windows.

Feds only deployed 2 in Waco.

167 posted on 02/13/2013 6:22:10 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: cbvanb

Thanks for your honest reply, I’m happy to hear you feel that way.


168 posted on 02/13/2013 6:23:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: eddie willers

No it doesn’t. I said the remains are Dorner. However, it is the PD that is saying they still have not confirmed it is......which poses the question if they can’t confirm it why were they shooting up and torching an individual if they couldn’t confirm he was their suspect?


169 posted on 02/13/2013 6:26:14 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
No arguments here, you've done a great job.

Ain't THAT the truth.

There is little more ironic than an idiot that denies the charge of being a "perfectionist," by insisting he "just wants it done 'right.'"

170 posted on 02/13/2013 6:31:44 PM PST by papertyger
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To: driftdiver
He was an ex naval officer and an ex-LAPD cop. Sad to see so many ‘conservatives’ celebrating how the LAPD handled this entire situation. Heck we don’t need to worry about the leftists, the so called conservatives will glady welcome in the police state.

what complete BS. He was evil and a murderer that totally got what he deserved, a conservative principal. You spew left wing BS.

171 posted on 02/13/2013 6:40:03 PM PST by bfree (Biden '13)
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To: LostInBayport
What if this had been someone's home, and they were out to work and school when the wanted man decides to hole up there?

Insurance will pay for it.

Anyway what would you rather lose to take this perp down -- a cabin in the woods or another's officer's life???

172 posted on 02/13/2013 6:54:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Repeat Offender
which poses the question if they can’t confirm it why were they shooting up and torching an individual if they couldn’t confirm he was their suspect?

Because the individual had stolen two trucks at gunpoint, ambushed two officers, killing one, and was firing hundreds of rounds at them.

And they torched the building not him. He chose to remain in the burning building when he could have come out with his hands up.

"Burn this mother++++++ down" refers to the building that he is hiding in -- not him.

173 posted on 02/13/2013 7:04:14 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

How many hostages were in the building when they torched it?


174 posted on 02/13/2013 7:10:56 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m sure that department was equipped with thermal imaging devices to determine if there was more than one person in the building. It would be easy to determine.


175 posted on 02/13/2013 7:16:46 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Sacajaweau

The people at Waco had done no clear wrong, at most paperwork violations.

Nobody doubts this guy killed innocents and cops to no good reason, and was capable of, and intent on, killing even more while being “waited out”.


176 posted on 02/13/2013 7:22:58 PM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Venturer
He could have come out on his belly with his hands behind him.

Yes. Peasants must crawl before the faces of the King's men...

177 posted on 02/13/2013 7:23:52 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: drpix
drpix wrote: You argue like a real leftist - you change the subject or case every time your arguement on the original subject or case colapses. Arr you sure your a libertaian and not a leftist?

I'll let you argue with yourself:

drpix wrote: This thread is about the cops at Dorner's cabin holdout. It's not about the cops who shot the 2 women.

Notice how you change the subject "every time your arguement on the original subject or case colapses".

The subject is the police hosing down everything in sight with lead and fire...

178 posted on 02/13/2013 7:31:01 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Greysard
Here is a valid question then. If a cop stops you in the street, draws his weapon and points at your head, do you have a legal right to do the same to defend yourself?

The problem that the conservative Statists refuse to acknowledge is that the state wardens are EVERYWHERE.

You used to be able to escape their reach in the beginning of the Republic. Now, they pursue you to the death like the very Furies, anywhere in the land. There are no sanctuaries any more.

And the conservative Statists cheer on...

179 posted on 02/13/2013 7:37:47 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Repeat Offender
Video at link

What is an "unconfirmed video"?

Isn't a "burner" a tear gas canister?

180 posted on 02/13/2013 7:39:27 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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