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Police Appeared To Shout 'Burn This Mother' Down Before Fire Engulfed Rogue Ex-Cop's Cabin
Business Insider Military & Defense ^ | 13 Feb 13 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 02/13/2013 3:00:36 PM PST by Repeat Offender

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To: Pelham; Alaska Wolf
I'm not that crazy about BusinessInsider.com -- at least its articles referenced here.

A clever opening with "apparent" 'burn that f------ house down.' statements changes the shape and color of the scanner reports containing the word, "burner"

And even if the "apparent" statements are true, that doesn't mean the "burner" actions were intended to start a fire.

201 posted on 02/14/2013 4:03:27 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: kiryandil

Has nothing to do with being a peasant,

Has to do with showing absolutely no intent to do harm.

If he had come out any other way they would have perforated him.

He killed himself probably anyway.


202 posted on 02/14/2013 4:37:53 AM PST by Venturer
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To: kiryandil
You post:
drpix wrote: You argue like a real leftist - you change the subject or case every time your arguement on the original subject or case colapses. Are you sure your a libertaian and not a leftist?

Notice how you change the subject "every time your arguement on the original subject or case colapses".

The subject is the police hosing down everything in sight with lead and fire...

And yet my above quote was a reply to your following post:
"Were those women shooting at the cops? How about that guy in the black pickup they also shot?"
Who changed the subject/case from the cabin shooting to the 2 women shooting and who responded to you changing the case/subject? Pathetic! You can't engage in a rational discussion if you can't remember what you post.
203 posted on 02/14/2013 6:22:45 AM PST by drpix
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I'm from a family of cops and a background of cops. So my life experience has shown me that cops are among the best patriots and finest human beings in this country. I'm not talking the top brass, the politically appointed commissioners or chiefs and their selected minions. I'm talking the rank and file and those in lower command positions.

The legal right to use deadly force differs for cops and civilians. For both it involves the imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury at the hands of the offender(s). But, the difference is that for civilians it either includes the right to stand their ground or a requirement to try and safely retreat - but it never includes the duty to pursue and stop, as it does for cops.

Dorner surrendered his right to due process by trial when he fired on pursuing police - whether the deadly force used to kill him was lead or flames!!!!!!!!

All Americans have the right to self protection (including armed 2nd Amendment protection) but many are not up to it. In those cases and when facing the violence of criminal gangs and violent anti-American radicals, cops have been America's "thin blue line."

As for boot licking, I've never associated with those cops who either licked boots or wanted their boots licked. But if you try some boot licking on Sharpton, Jackson, Bill Ayers or the many Hollywood leftists, they may let you in on the "police brutality" campaign they are sure to launch in response to "Django" Dorner's death.

I'll live with the company I choose. You can live with the company you chose.

204 posted on 02/14/2013 6:41:04 AM PST by drpix
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To: cbvanb

Self-defense? Dinno. One guy in a cabin surrounded by armed poice? I see no legal or other justification for intentionally burning someone alive. there are more humane ways of wasting an SOB than by burning them alive.


205 posted on 02/14/2013 6:49:08 AM PST by plain talk
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To: papertyger; bigheadfred
You deceitfully truncate the quote into: "It is the cops' and every other patriotic American's duty to kill the SOB."

As I told bigheadfred in post-151...

Try the entire quote: "When, after a black has already killed many, and is in the act of trying to kill some more, it becomes the job of the ACLU, the Communist Party and the Black Panther Party to defend the Constitution. It is the cops' and every other patriotic American's duty to kill the SOB."
And as I replied to him in that post...
"Do you work for NBC news? Cutting out parts to slant its meaning!"
Note: In "Django" Dorner's case, since reality required me to include the Black Panther among his defenders, I also had to specify his race.
206 posted on 02/14/2013 7:02:58 AM PST by drpix
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To: Gene Eric
even if the "apparent" statements are true, that doesn't mean the "burner" actions were intended to start a fire.<

Exactly.

207 posted on 02/14/2013 11:00:33 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: plain talk
I see no legal or other justification for intentionally burning someone alive

You have proof of this happening in Dorner's case?

208 posted on 02/14/2013 11:04:13 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: BwanaNdege

PDs have become street gangs with the color of law. The psychology is no different between the two. Loyalty to the group over all others.


209 posted on 02/14/2013 11:10:50 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: Greysard

This is a concern because there was a direct line between Waco and the OKC bombing. Not a moral justification for OKC, but these sort of things happen when government doesn’t consider anything other than the short term effects of its actions.


210 posted on 02/14/2013 11:14:30 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: Venturer
If he had come out any other way they would have perforated him.

That is pure speculation on your part. Dorner could easily have turned himself in prior to killing the deputy sheriff.

211 posted on 02/14/2013 11:43:48 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: garbanzo
PDs have become street gangs

That generalization is pure lunacy.

212 posted on 02/14/2013 11:46:16 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: driftdiver
You mean am I willing to make a judgement call after hearing police transmissions played on tv

What are "unconfirmed" videos and audios?

213 posted on 02/14/2013 11:51:35 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Repeat Offender
which poses the question if they can’t confirm it why were they shooting

A better question would be why was the occupant of the cabin shooting at law enforcement officers?

214 posted on 02/14/2013 11:55:41 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

What are two little old ladies?


215 posted on 02/14/2013 12:03:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: plain talk

No argument regarding more humane ways to kill someone, but how much risk do you expect the police to take in attempting to arrest a guy like that? He shot the first two that approached the cabin, killing one of them. At some point it becomes obvious that the suspect is not going to come out just because you asked him to. Having seen one fire myself that was started by tear gas I can tell you there was plenty of time for the gas to begin working on the guy, and more than enough time for him to come out and surrender, if he had a mind to. Clearly he did not. What seems to get overlooked in this discussion are the decisions made by the suspect, all of which directly resulted in his death. He could have avoided that any number of times.


216 posted on 02/14/2013 12:06:29 PM PST by cbvanb
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To: driftdiver
What are two little old ladies?

Answer the question already posed to you first. What are "unconfirmed" videos and audios?

217 posted on 02/14/2013 12:43:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

So you’re saying those aren’t recordings of the police communications? Heck the police have even admitted they are so you must be just another liar protecting his buddies.


218 posted on 02/14/2013 1:22:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
So you’re saying

No, I posed a question. . What are "unconfirmed" videos and audios? If you don't know, just admit it.

you must be just another liar

For posing a question, criminal apologist?

219 posted on 02/14/2013 1:30:39 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: driftdiver
Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative

ROTFLOLAY!!!!!!!

220 posted on 02/14/2013 1:32:16 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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