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...new pictures reveal ferocity of cabin shoot-out
The Daily Mail Online ^ | February 14, 2013 | THOMAS DURANTE, MICHAEL ZENNIE and LYDIA WARREN

Posted on 02/14/2013 5:47:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip

The husband and wife who say they surprised Christopher Dorner in their home, hours before he was killed in a dramatic standoff, described their terror as he bound their hands and feet. Jim and Karen Reynolds say they came to the home just before noon on Tuesday to find the fugitive had been staying in an upstairs room.

Mrs Reynolds said that Dorner seemed 'calm and methodical' when he approached them, but her first instinct when she saw him was to run away - and Dorner chased after her.

She tried to run up the stairs but was quickly caught by Dorner, who dragged her away.

Mr Reynolds said that after first trying to keep them calm, Dorner tied up their hands and feet with zip ties before stuffing washcloths in their mouths.

He then covered their faces with pillowcases and wrapped electrical cords around their heads.

'I really thought it could be the end,' she told reporters on Wednesday night.

The Reynolds said that despite early reports, it was them - and not their housekeepers - who had encountered Dorner in the home.

They said that he tried to keep them calm and told them repeatedly that he was not going to kill them. Mr Reynolds, who has been married to Karen for 36 years, added: 'He said he just wanted to clear his name.'

Mrs Reynolds added: 'He said he needed transportation out of big bear. He continued to say to us quite frequently he would not kill us and just asked us to do what he asked.

'He knelt down beside me and said "you're going to be quiet, right?"'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 02/14/2013 5:47:55 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Nah, that wasn’t intentionally set... Imagine what the owner is thinking and I wonder what his insurance company will say or sue?


2 posted on 02/14/2013 5:52:49 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 5:52:53 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Uncle Chip

In before the ‘Pooooor Dorner” posts.

‘He said he just wanted to clear his name.’
You don’t do that by killing people stupid.
And especially NOT by killing someones daughter and then taunting him about it.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 5:56:00 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Uncle Chip

Why is it that the only reliable news U.S. stories comes from the UK?


5 posted on 02/14/2013 6:01:55 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Uncle Chip

According to the LAPD, Christopher Dorner was trying to give up cigarettes. They added that even though he died on Tuesday, he didn’t stop smoking until Wednesday.

(too soon?)


6 posted on 02/14/2013 6:02:44 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Police departments, local governments, business leaders and police unions pool their money to offer a $1million reward two days before Dorner’s capture.

When asked about the reward, the Reynolds said that it was no longer being offered because Dorner was killed before he cold be arrested and convicted.”


7 posted on 02/14/2013 6:02:44 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

That makes it easy for all of us next time when we ponder the dilemma of informing the police of a sighting, knowing that there will be a lot of official questions and media intrusion, vs just shutting up, getting on with our business elsewhere, and letting them continue to deal with it.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 6:08:19 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

It’s twice repeated in the article that he “tried to keep them calm”-——no doubt an opening for the left to gush what a caring, kind man their hero is.

Didn’t this author know to capitalize “Big Bear?”


9 posted on 02/14/2013 6:09:10 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: jiggyboy

Be nice. Yesterday was Ash Wednesday after all. He took getting ashes on his forehead a little too seriously.


10 posted on 02/14/2013 6:09:10 AM PST by mnehring
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Good article here on what led to his firing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2988388/posts


11 posted on 02/14/2013 6:13:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Obama's election marked the end of any pretense that we are still a nation of laws.
12 posted on 02/14/2013 6:13:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: listenhillary
The reward was a farce from the beginning. There was absolutely no way they were going to take him alive..and everyone knows it.

I wrote about it when they first put it out.

13 posted on 02/14/2013 6:13:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

I sure do not know Policeprocedures,but what the hell were they shooting at? I watched the video and shot were ringing out all over. My Daddy taugh t me not to shoot until I knw what I was shooting at, these people are obviously just firing at the cabin, What for?

If I had been a Police Officer there I would have been more frightened of friendly fire than Dorner.


14 posted on 02/14/2013 6:13:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Uncle Chip

The Daily Mail almost always amazes me on these big stories, and always in the same way: there is so much information, in this case virtually every useful detail of the entire episode, yet they never give it a final content check before putting it to bed.

Here they have accounts of both the original incorrect description of the tied-up hostages as “two maids” and the later correct description, with picture and names (not noted as a correction) that it was a husband and wife, who own the place.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 6:15:34 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Good article here on what led to his **firing**:”

DOH!


16 posted on 02/14/2013 6:16:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Uncle Chip

‘He said he just wanted to clear his name.’

Well, murdering 4 people is probably the wrong way to go about it.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 6:17:54 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: jiggyboy

British papers are not obligated to wait for the “spin” from Democrat officials. California is a Democrat state. They need to set the agenda before the media will be allowed to run stories.
There are too many opportunities for the facts to divert the attention of the sheeple away from the agenda. The true agenda is “guns are bad” and “the LAPD needs more diversity”.


18 posted on 02/14/2013 6:19:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Venturer

One thing that this story confirms is that Dorner was a better, cooler shot than anybody he met up with. That is a sad fact.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 6:22:24 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

Will be interesting to see how the insurance company (assuming the cabin was insured) handles this. I wonder if they’ll not pay out categorizing this as an ‘act or war/terrorism’ or similar.


20 posted on 02/14/2013 6:29:16 AM PST by 556x45
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To: jiggyboy
Dorner also had tactical advantage. I suspect that ex-Marine who fired 20 .308's in Dorner's direction would better Dorner, given the same tactical advantages that Dorner had.

Just saying, I don't think the brush sweeps quite as broad as your remark says.

21 posted on 02/14/2013 6:30:15 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Chip

“...high-power .308-caliber M-14 battle rifle...”

Brits do seem to have a peculiar fascination with US weapons.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 6:33:34 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Darksheare
You don’t do that by killing people stupid.

You are exactly right. Now, would you just stop with the acid comments. I am deeply weary of those who keep pontificating about how to get on with your life after someone has done very unjust things to you. I am getting sick and tired of your poor choice of words in calling people "stupid". It would be best if everyone let this thing end and quit going after each other.

I'm going to tell you the effect your comments are having on me and probably a lot of others. EVERY time you come out and make some acid comment about that was not the way to do things (which we all know) and call someone "stupid", you just stir up more anger about the injustices that have not been resolved. Give it a rest.

On a positive note, apparently Dorner DID make an attempt to not overtly harm people not directly connected to those he believed had been instrumental causing some of his distress or law enforcement chasing him. He did show restraint in that area. Loughner didn't show any restraint at all and just killed everyone in front of him he could. So did Hassan. Something is different about this case, but crickets will be chirping before we ever see any real investigative reporting as to what actually set this man off.

23 posted on 02/14/2013 6:36:09 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: mnehring

This guy is really popular.

The Food Channel just called asked if he would make a guest appearance as the secret ingredient on Iron Chef.

Pitmaster has set up a cook-off between Team Reno and Team LAPD.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:14 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Venturer

During the standoff, the media asked a spokesperson if the cabin was completely surrounded, so he could not escape.

She did not know...

...a circular firing squad comes to mind.


25 posted on 02/14/2013 6:43:33 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Wow, Dorner’s a real hero huh?


26 posted on 02/14/2013 6:44:21 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: 556x45

The sheriff’s office will probably handle the cabin like the LAPD handled the old lady’s pickup truck that they shot up.

We are not to worry, because some anonymous donor paid will pay to replace the truck...and the sheeple are supposed to believe that public funds will not be used.

Some ‘donor’ will probably replace the cabin.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 6:47:43 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Funny. You have heard nothing out of the thug in the White House about this guy. If Obama had a son, he would be like this poor guy. Trying to clear his name because whitey hated him. Nothing. So quiet at 1600 Penn Ave. No talk of gun control for crazy ex-cops who are out of their minds because they “took” away his job.


28 posted on 02/14/2013 6:48:45 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Darksheare
Wow, Dorner’s a real hero huh?

Absolutely not. When one makes ugly comments, it takes the entire discussion down to the lowest level. What's the difference between the accused and the accuser if that happens?

29 posted on 02/14/2013 6:49:39 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Uncle Chip

News coverage in the British publications completely blows away anything I’ve seen in US papers. Journalists here are borderline illiterate.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 6:49:53 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Funny, stating the obvious flat truth is an acid comment.

Killing someones daughter and then taunting them about it doesn’t clear their name.
It means they are STUPID and looking to die.


31 posted on 02/14/2013 6:50:52 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: ops33
Brits do seem to have a peculiar fascination with US weapons.

They do, but I appreciate that they describe them correctly.

32 posted on 02/14/2013 6:54:29 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Journalists here are borderline illiterate.

Do you think that maybe that could be, well, caused by global warming?

33 posted on 02/14/2013 6:55:33 AM PST by mnehring
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To: IMR 4350

AlGore is demanding carbon offsets be paid to him for all the CO2 released during the fire.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 6:57:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring; skeeter

Global warming and a lack of study grants obviously!
/ bad joke.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 6:57:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: mnehring

Lol. More likely the other way around.


36 posted on 02/14/2013 6:59:00 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Darksheare

The police are very insensitive to the environment. They are not Mother Earth’s friends. Call in Captain Planet.


37 posted on 02/14/2013 6:59:33 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Uncle Chip; mnehring
Dorner was involved in running gunfight as he gained entry to cabin. In the gunbattle, Dorner shot and killed Sheriff's Deputy Jeremiah McKay and injured Deputy Alex Collins

So much for all the caterwauling last night about the lack of due process and the lack of proof of Dorner's guilt. The perp in the cabin shot and killed a deputy at the location. Lord knows how many more might have been killed if the siege had continued for hours.

I even saw one poster claim that there was no immenent threat to the LEOs in the siege. Maybe that poster can call up McKay's widow and get her opinion on the matter.

38 posted on 02/14/2013 7:02:15 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Darksheare; skeeter
Did Global Warming cause Christopher Dorner's Anger?
39 posted on 02/14/2013 7:03:02 AM PST by mnehring
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To: dirtboy
According to the article the two deputies were shot during Dorner's break out attempt.

Anyone who thinks the LEO's should've 'waited him out', aren't.

40 posted on 02/14/2013 7:04:49 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Uncle Chip
Was the guy 99.9% guilty? Yes.

Do I believe he got what he deserved? Yes.

However, instead of Californians being afraid of just one out of control cop..........................
41 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:50 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (There are none so enslaved as those whom refuse to be free.)
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To: dirtboy
I even saw one poster claim that there was no immenent threat to the LEOs in the siege.

Oh good grief. I knew I should have given up the Internet for Lent. 30 days without idiots would have been nice.

42 posted on 02/14/2013 7:06:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
LOL, now I have Ted Turner painted blue and screaming "Caaaaaptaiiiin Pllllanet! Hah hah hah!" running around.
43 posted on 02/14/2013 7:11:51 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare
Wow, Dorner’s a real hero huh?

The real heroes are the seven LAPD cops who pumped the lead into the back of the newspaper delivery ladies' truck without first identifying their target or giving a warning and the Torrance cop who rammed the side of the surfer's truck, then pumped three rounds into the windshield after he'd just been pulled over, checked and released.

This is the brave lot you should be cheering.

44 posted on 02/14/2013 7:15:18 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Darksheare
Killing someones daughter and then taunting them about it doesn’t clear their name. It means they are STUPID and looking to die.

Truth? Where's the proof that A) this phone call was actually made and B) that Dorner was the one who made it?

45 posted on 02/14/2013 7:19:36 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Darksheare
‘He said he just wanted to clear his name.’
You don’t do that by killing people stupid.


I didn't read his manifesto, but from news reports, I understood his beef to be with the LAPD.

However, this last battle took place in a different county with a different set of LEOs. So, what was his excuse for that? He brought the battle to them and they won.


46 posted on 02/14/2013 7:19:36 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: mnehring

Now the folks from the “Wicker Man” festival are offering him big bucks because it’s really hard to find a big celebrity crowd pleaser with experience to do a repeat performance.


47 posted on 02/14/2013 7:23:57 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: jiggyboy
He is now eligible for the key to New York City, announced Mayor “Soda Jerk” Bloomberg....
48 posted on 02/14/2013 7:28:09 AM PST by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Read his manifesto.
He said he was going to go after the families of the officers he had a disagreement with.
And he did.
The lady he shot was the daughter of one of the officers he had a problem with.

His manifesto is rather revealing.


49 posted on 02/14/2013 7:30:53 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: mnehring; skeeter

Made him combustively angry apparently!


50 posted on 02/14/2013 7:31:29 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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