Skip to comments....new pictures reveal ferocity of cabin shoot-out
Posted on 02/14/2013 5:47:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip
The husband and wife who say they surprised Christopher Dorner in their home, hours before he was killed in a dramatic standoff, described their terror as he bound their hands and feet. Jim and Karen Reynolds say they came to the home just before noon on Tuesday to find the fugitive had been staying in an upstairs room.
Mrs Reynolds said that Dorner seemed 'calm and methodical' when he approached them, but her first instinct when she saw him was to run away - and Dorner chased after her.
She tried to run up the stairs but was quickly caught by Dorner, who dragged her away.
Mr Reynolds said that after first trying to keep them calm, Dorner tied up their hands and feet with zip ties before stuffing washcloths in their mouths.
He then covered their faces with pillowcases and wrapped electrical cords around their heads.
'I really thought it could be the end,' she told reporters on Wednesday night.
The Reynolds said that despite early reports, it was them - and not their housekeepers - who had encountered Dorner in the home.
They said that he tried to keep them calm and told them repeatedly that he was not going to kill them. Mr Reynolds, who has been married to Karen for 36 years, added: 'He said he just wanted to clear his name.'
Mrs Reynolds added: 'He said he needed transportation out of big bear. He continued to say to us quite frequently he would not kill us and just asked us to do what he asked.
'He knelt down beside me and said "you're going to be quiet, right?"'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
“Stupid” = “Quadruple Killer?”
OK, Dorner was stupid, stupid, stupid and stupid.
An M-14 is not a semi-automatic weapon. Is has full auto capacity. If it was in fact a “battle rifle” the article is inaccurate on that point. However, it was not referred to as a assault rifle which a M-14 is.
I read his manifesto.
Quite a bit of mind sominex in there.
But rather revealing.
When it was Dorner vs LAPD it was badguy on badguy violence.
LAPD showed they were incapable of finding, containing, or stopping him.
Heck, he’d probably still be alive if he had stayed in LA proper.
Yes, Dorner was stupid, not everyone else unless they do, say or write something stupid.
The Brits have been known to evacuate a whole city block because somebody found a live round...of 22LR.
Now they're not laughing. They're whining.
Fair enough. Darks was just pointing out that murdering four people (one of whom was not a cop) is a pretty stupid way to “clear your name.” It’s a bit of a Duh.
He was 6’2” and weighted 270 pounds. I think PEDs may have been part of his daily routine. Didn’t anyone in LAPD take notice of
And there are people insisting that stating truthfully that there are people whining over Dorner are conflating things.
No, there really are people whining over Dorner.
I was tempted to post a thread “Before you cry in your beer over Dorner, consider what the law says about the authorization of deadly force and when it is authorized.”
It is authorized for use when someone is fleeing a rape, murder etc.
Also authorized when someone is shooting at you but let’s not get real picky.
An older, wiser man once told me, "Just because something's true doesn't always mean it needs to be said."
I am through with this conversation because instead of getting it, you're raising the rhetoric level which will not have a positive outcome. This conversation is over.
Lies of omission are still lies.
The lady he shot was the daughter of one of the officers he had a problem with.
I know that. My question concerned your saying he called the father and taunted him. Where did that originate?
Posting his manifesto on foolbook showed manipulation where he pleads for sympathy and successfully draws in leftists media allies. All he need do was use the right code words and throw a few leftists love darts. Nothing fancy.
He specifically wanted them on his side and to disseminate what he imagined to be his just cause. And they played right along, showing themselves to be tools, as if there were remaining doubt. But the extent of their sympathy and credence given to his claims of discrimination was astonishing even to me. They were seemingly purchased at face value while implicitly avoiding any possibility that his case was handled properly; that he was in fact dishonest. And perhaps dismissed because he was also suspected of being a dangerous lunatic, though that's is pure conjecture.
They did so naively? The larger purpose of advancing pillars of social justice and to hell with the innocent victims? What does either say about these vermin? My take can't be posted.
Dorner was 6ft and 270lbs. I'm the same height with an athletic build and I weigh 188lbs. Look at the shots of Rambro's physique. The guy was clearly on steroids, and psychopaths and roids are a nasty combo.
Like I stated, all of those bullets, I would have been more firghtened of the cowboys firing at something they did not see than of Dorner.
I suppose we can thank God that cabin was big enough that most of them could hit it, and not their fellow officers on the other side.
As the newspaper ladies and surfer learned it was badguy on innocent citizen violence, too. The LAPD doesn't care who they hurt.
LAPD showed they were incapable of finding, containing, or stopping him.
The people who lived 4 doors up from the cabin where he was staying which was across the street from the media briefing center in Big Bear said that no one ever came to search their cabin.
Not the San Bernardino County Sheriffs, Riverside Sheriffs, or FBI. No one. So, none of these are any better at searching for a fugitive than the LAPD.
Except for the select fire part their description is accurate.
Is it authorized for people delivering newspapers?
How about surfers on their way to the beach?
I suspect the LAPD be as dismissive with these cops actions as you have been.
He called Randall Quan after gunning down his daughter and taunted him.
Fully in keeping with what he had in his manifesto.
And since he did insist he was going to die, we’ll never get the story from him, only his manifesto where he says flat out that he was going after families of those he viewed as wronging him.
LAPD vs Dorner was badguy on badguy violence.
Except for the couple Dorner murdered, they had little to do with the “beef” dorner had with the LAPD other than Randall Quan was the father of the girl.
But Dorner wasn’t murdered, he was actively shooting at Sherrifs Deputies and got himself stuck ina spot he couldn’t get out of.
The actions of the Torrence cops shooting up a BLUE TOYOTA TACOMA and the LAPD in ramming a BLACK HONDA RIDGELINE that looks nothing like a GREY NISSAN TITAN and shooting at the OBVIOUSLY NOT DORNER WHITE GUY after visually confirming he wasn’t Dorner are actions that warrant extreme brutal and with malice aforethought scrutiny.
There were no heroes in this one.
Personally, I view anything coming from the LAPD with a grain of salt. As you say, they're the bad guys.
he killed the daughter and fiance (?) of the man who tried to help him. How there is anything just in that, I’ll never know.
On this, we agree and there's no reason to cheer over anyone's death.
My problem is with tose who are whining over his death as if he is some kind of martyr.
Yes, tehre are those.
Heck, there wass someone the other day denying that Dorner was a lefty and that leftists loved the guy.
We should learn from his actions at least and keep it in mind for “If the stuff hits the fan”.
Good, balanced, truthful post.
Maybe we should step back and examine where Doner had cop training. Maybe shooting innocents is taught in LAPD. LAPD acted no differently than Doner. An innocent was shot for an innocent. Two innocent civilians died while two others didn’t.
Just because one cop died in Big Bear doesn’t mean that Doner shot him. We have no proof of that. Just assumptions.
Usually when there is a lynch mob mentality, they are very good at convincing others about the imperfections of their scape goat. We have fallen into that trap and have sided with the PD.
I’m sorry that Doner was killed. Maybe his story should have been heard in a different jurisdiction. LAPD had as much right of taking his life as he did taking the life of others. Those who burned him, should also be burned. They killed one of their own, even if he was an ex cop (because of them)
LAPD has shown that they are just a gang with the legal right to shoot. I don’t know how many cops were at BB, but it seems if 20 cops couldn’t take one guy down, then there’s something wrong with the system or with them. They were scared of Doner and wanted, needed to silence him. They are the ones who made him out to be smarter than he actually was. Then again, maybe he was smarter since they didn’t search the cabins in front of their noses.
What scared me most about this is that they burned down a house not being 100% sure that it was Doner in there or if he was in there. When the interior gun shot was heard, it wasn’t proof that it was Doner.
“Its a bit of a Duh.”
It’s a gigantic DUH. People spouting the patently obvious as if it’s some kind of important revelation can get a little tiresome. The hope is that posters will add something to the conversation, but not everyone can. At least it wasn’t done in all caps.
Hah! Makes me think of that commercial (I think it's FedEx) with the guy being admonished for using all caps a lot in his emails. "SORRY! MY CAPS-LOCK KEY GETS STUCK! WANNA GET A DRINK LATER?"
“Makes me think of that commercial... with the guy being admonished for using all caps...”
I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS - WATER IS WET!
Your caps key is stuck?
*checks remedial action sheets*
Ah, here we go.
Check keyboard for a Fred unit.
Remove Fred unit from keyboard, administer catnip and release Fred unit into other room while quickly closing the door behind him.
Return to regular posting.
Clearing the Fred unit worked. And they say tech support is worthless! (Well, it only is where I work since they outsourced it to India. Why India??? It’s the most difficult accent to understand in the world.)
Sorry that was proved incorrect, call came from Oregon not SoCal. has been reported on local stations.
When I was in Nam, the Navy M-14 issue was without the selector. Only designated individuals were authorized the SAW - squad automatic weapon (auto selector switch/rod) in the M14E2 configuration. In ‘65 the preferred SAW weapon was the M-60 because the M-14 was susceptible to jamming when it over heated.
Okay, that I had not heard.
Journalists here are borderline illiterate.